Hello all!! My first message here!! Great forum!! I am looking to get a sub in the near future! My choices are the new Nautilus sub that will coming out, the Velodyne,F1800R and the Carver Sunfire True Sub! I am looking to spend a good amount on one due to the fact that I want a "musical" sub!! I do spend many hours of listening to music besides movies and I have found many subs in the $500-$800 range to be a bit boomy for music!! Great for movies though! I was an installer for a home theater company while I was in school and I have heard both the Velodyne and the Carver!! I always thought the Carver was tight!! I have yet to hear the new Nautilus!! When is that due out?? I would to hear all oppionions!! My current rig: Yamaha RX V 1300 rcvr. B&W Nautilus 804 mains (black) B&W CC6 center Paradigm Titans for rears! Sony DVD Sony 36" WEGA TV Future components, A Krell amp of some kind!! (not sure which one I want) B&W Nautilus 805 for rears Monster Cable Power distibutor/regulator Hopefully someday, B&W Sig 800's Tigers Eye finish I listen to all types of music as I am a Wedding Dj on the weekends so I do not have one style of musical taste!! Favorite Demo CD Four Play :Bali Run Any help would be appreciated!! PS Tell me about REL!!!