And no, not that kind of adult gaming. According to some people who do this kind of survey, the average gamer is 28 years old. So, someone wanna tell me where all the games geared at the supposed majority agegroup are? We get tripe like BMX XXX catering specifically to the 18+ crowd, when I can't think of anyone out of 7th grade who would actually think it was "mature". The only ones I can think of off the top of my head (GTA does not count) are the Fallout games, The Longest Journey, Deus Ex, and, barely, The Getaway. I'm not talking about games that need a load of swearing and nudity, just something that appeals to the older crowd without having to toss in Jr. High sensibilities to make a buck. Violence doesn't make a game mature, and it's interesting to note that it's a very simple matter to find a game where you can blow someone's head off, but it's rare to find a game that uses the word "fuck" without making it a marketing point. I dunno, am I totally missing the boat on this one? We can have mature movies, TV shows, books, comics, plays, radio programs, but video games are a rare find.