6.1 DTS ES/DD EX Recievers around $ 1000?

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  1. Daniel I

    Daniel I Stunt Coordinator

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    Are there any decent 6.1 DTS ES/DD EX ( both formats are important ) recievers available around the $1000 dollor mark?

    Any comments would be appreciated?
     
  2. Earl Simpson

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    Yes!These are all 6 or 7 amp rcvrs
    Onkyo 898 $1100 or less/does everything =first choice
    This is the only rcvr in the $1000 range that has enough reviews to warrant consideration for THX-EX and DTS-ES.
    Sony 5es $900 es with functions similar to ex/but not THX
    Denon 3802 $749???? no ex
    Marantz 8200/does it all=$1000(ebay)????? See the 8200 thread
    JVC 10 =not sure about both formats /does THX-EX and may do es by default
    This is were I am at this time! I can get the Sony for $900 and the Onkyo for less than $1100. These rvcrs do almost everything. Marantz 8200 looks good, but not much info on it!!!!! Power ratings are suspect on site.
    Onkyo is smaller and weighs less but has 7 amps.#40 pounds
    Two year warranty=you won't need it
    The Sony is a beast between #44 and #49. It has more power. It also has a minor viedo pass through problem which I could care less about( run my video direct, best way).
    5 year warranty= you may need it/maybe not
    Several people have both on this forum. I am trying to sift through the hype and make an educated choice.
    Both Sony and Onkyo are great companys. Onkyo has a better track record on Quality. Sony makes a bad a** es line that is something to see(awesome).
    If Sony had the track record of Onkyo(owned one before) this would be a done deal. But they are pretty even in my mind after price is considered. Personal choice.[​IMG]
     
  3. Bobby T

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    the Denon 3802 has DD EX but at $749 its probably not an authorized dealer. The 2802 has EX and DTS ES disctete and matrix and can be had for $700-$800 from an authorized dealer.
     
  4. Earl Simpson

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    I'm so confused. I'm reading the 3802 manual and I can not find THX-EX anywhere/can you help?

    Also, I thought EX was a THX function?
     
  5. Earl Simpson

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    ok/ In the 898 manual it says THX surround EX. Please give a page number for the Denon 3802 manual.[​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  6. Arthur Legardo

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    Just until recently the only A/V components that can use the term "Dolby Digital EX" were components that had THX certification, either Select or Ultra.

    The 898 is THX Select certified and thus can use the words "Dolby Digital EX". The 3802 isn't THX certified but can still decode EX material.
     
  7. David D. C.

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    quote from bobby:

    but at $749 its probably not an authorized dealer.

    i found the 2802 denon for 569.95 at etronic.com my question is what does it matter if its an authorized dealer or not?
     
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    i got the 3802 from www.6ave.com for $850 shipped back in September. Theyre an authorized dealer.
     
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    Dont forget the new Yamaha line. If you search the forum, you will find many very happy owners of the new RX-V 1200 and 2200. I have the 1200, and it rocks. Does DTS ES discrete, and DD-EX material as well.
     
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    Also don't forget the H&K's...............

    AVR-520 for example:

    Key Features:

    Dolby Digital, DTS, and Pro Logic II

    85 watts x 2 (stereo) into 8 ohms (20-20,000 Hz) at 0.07% THD — or 75 x 5 into 8 ohms (20-20,000 Hz) at 0.07% THD (surround mode)

    component video switching: 2 in, 1 out

    HDCD decoding

    MP3 decoding

    192kHz/24-bit DACs

    5.1- and 7.1-channel Logic 7 Cinema and Music surround modes

    backlit learning/multibrand EzSet remote

    dual-room/dual-source audio (stereo preamp outs for second room)

    separate remote for 2nd room

    on-screen display (requires TV with direct video input)

    front-panel digital jacks: 1 optical in, 1 coaxial in/out (switchable)

    7.1-channel preamp out/5-channel main-in

    7.1-channel input

    front-panel A/V in/out (switchable)

    back-panel digital ins: 2 optical, 2 coaxial

    back-panel digital outs: 1 optical, 1 coaxial

    2 audio, 5 A/V (including 5 S-video & 1 front-panel) inputs

    preamp-level subwoofer output

    one set of main speaker outs

    30 AM/FM presets

    17-5/16"W x 6-1/2"H x 17-1/8"D

    warranty: 2 years

    geo
     
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    I can't find DD-EX in the Denon manual either????? Or yamaha manual.

    Come on give me a page number!

    Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Thank you for having pity on me and giving me help. Thanks! That was what I needed!!!! Your a good man++++
    So lets see how confused I am at this point in time.
    EX and matrix 6.1 are simulated channels and not discrete like ES.
    So, do I really need that? Is there something about this that I will miss if I don't have it in a RCVR?
    Then this leads to the eternal question why do I need 7 speakers? For 7.1! 6.1 discrete is as good as it gets or did I miss something?[​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Then this puts the 3802 at the top again for price vs features. And the Sony is back in the line up.
     
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  18. Daniel I

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    Thanks for all the replies. This thread has provided me with a lot of new variables to consider. Now that I understand the DD EX 6.1 situation ( or just DD 6.1 matrixed ), it looks like the clear winner for a reciever ( for me ) would be the Denon 3802 ( I had it in mind at the beginning of the thread [​IMG] ) The only question I have left is, does the 3802 have 6.1 DTS ES discrete or matrixed.
    - update NM the 3802 is DTS ES discrete ( /me starts saving )
    Again, thanks for the all the help! [​IMG]
    Daniel I
     
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    I'm looking at the 3802 manual and it says=
    dts-es Matrix 6.1
    dts-es discrete 6.1
    dts neo 6
    Dolby pro logic 2
    DDD
    Now this has really confused me, but obviously it does it all!!![​IMG]
     

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