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Yeah, I was also thinking more of the Nolan films when I started thinking about Batman as noir.

I'm hoping to watch some for this challenge. I wasn't sure how many noir films I had in my collection, but a genre filter in my software tells me I have 65, so I guess I have plenty to watch and I've watched almost none of these before. Plus I think those are just traditional film noir titles, and don't include newer films that are considered neo-noir like the Nolan Dark Knight trilogy or Who Framed Roger Rabbit?.
 

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1) Double Indemnity (1944)- Criterion 4K
I decided to start with one of the oldest and most important Noirs, the gripping tale of Murder, infidelity, betrayal, deep regret, and insurance fraud.
 

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Personally I see the Nolan films as Neo Noir definitely The Dark Knight most definitely is. Burton on the other hand, has crafted his own unique style that is burtonesque, he takes a lot from German expressionism and amplifies it to his own unique style yeah there are some dark moments. But he's even stated himself that he's a Gothic artist.

Some of the other films that was mentioned in other people's things do fall into the category of neo-noir Drive is a great example of it. Heat Michael Mann knows how to do Neo Noir some of the works of the Coen brothers. Tech Noir was mentioned by Cameron which the original Terminator kind of falls in the category of it but it was perfected by Ridley Scott and Blade Runner it is a Noir film with the technical aspect future looking just as Grim as anything from the 40s. That's just my personal opinion but others might have their own unique opinion on it as well.

Honestly the Columbia Batman serial from the 40s is probably closer to Noir, not that there hasn't been some of the graphic novels adapted that way there's one actually name that.

I read somewhere once that actually of all people, Orson Welles had written a treatment or something and was planning on doing a Noir Batman filming like the 40s or so but it never came to be like some of his projects but that would have been kind of unique and awesome to see at the same time.

And I am by no means any kind of an expert, but Noir is a style not a genre so the debate is always open.
 

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Another first time viewing for me was "Cage of Evil" (1960). This was on "Noir Alley" a few weekends ago, but I never got around to watching it because I was too busy with the "Scary Movie Challenge". I decided to leave it on my DVR until November and watch it during this challenge. Anyhow, another movie about a cop corrupted by a woman and temptation as he decides to steal some diamonds from a crook, who happens to be the woman's boyfriend. Not a good movie, as the pace of the film was just too slow for me. Furthermore, the acting was pretty bad in this low budget independently produced movie. If the movie had better actors and director, it would have been an improved film. Movie only ran about 70 minutes, but felt longer due to the pacing issues. I doubt I'll ever watch this mediocre movie again.
Noted, so with some creative editing maybe trimming 7 or 8 minutes out of it it would have been a better film?
 

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Personally I see the Nolan films as Neo Noir definitely The Dark Knight most definitely is. Burton on the other hand, has crafted his own unique style that is burtonesque, he takes a lot from German expressionism and amplifies it to his own unique style yeah there are some dark moments. But he's even stated himself that he's a Gothic artist.

Some of the other films that was mentioned in other people's things do fall into the category of neo-noir Drive is a great example of it. Heat Michael Mann knows how to do Neo Noir some of the works of the Coen brothers. Tech Noir was mentioned by Cameron which the original Terminator kind of falls in the category of it but it was perfected by Ridley Scott and Blade Runner it is a Noir film with the technical aspect future looking just as Grim as anything from the 40s. That's just my personal opinion but others might have their own unique opinion on it as well.

Honestly the Columbia Batman serial from the 40s is probably closer to Noir, not that there hasn't been some of the graphic novels adapted that way there's one actually name that.

I read somewhere once that actually of all people, Orson Welles had written a treatment or something and was planning on doing a Noir Batman filming like the 40s or so but it never came to be like some of his projects but that would have been kind of unique and awesome to see at the same time.

And I am by no means any kind of an expert, but Noir is a style not a genre so the debate is always open.
A Burton gothic movie with noir elements is Sleepy Hollow.
 

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Noted, so with some creative editing maybe trimming 7 or 8 minutes out of it it would have been a better film?
Need some creative writing too because it’s already just 70 minutes long. Frankly, I just didn’t care for the movie.
 

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03) 11/02/2022 The File on Thelma Jordan (1949)
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Barbara Stanwyck's elderly aunt thinks someone is trying to burglarize her luxurious home to steal her jewels, so her niece approaches assistant district attorney Wendell Corey for help. Drunk at the office on his wedding anniversary because of his pompous father-in-law's constant interference, Corey starts putting the moves on Stanwyck. Love blooms. Then, not surprisingly, there's a murder, and Corey finds himself knee-deep in a cover up. The performances are good and the film looks fine. But the script comes too late in the noir cycle to offer any real surprises, except perhaps for how things get wrapped up. Too often we know what's coming.

04) 11/02/2022 Killer's Kiss (1955) 1667497932101.png 1667497932101.png 1/2

Unsuccessful boxer comes to the aid of his neighbor when her boss attacks her. They start a relationship, much to the chagrin of the would-be lover, who's also something of a criminal. So, things get violent. An early effort from Stanley Kubrick who directed, produced, edited, photographed, and storied. The final act is great, with a lengthy foot chase, rooftop pursuit, and confrontation in a mannequin factory involving an axe! Up to that point though the film is only so-so, as the main characters aren't the most interesting to grace film noir's halls. Some suspense is negated because the story is told in flashback by the boxer, so we know he survives, at least to a point. Still, the genuine New York locations give the film authenticity and grit, which help keep one's eyes on the screen during the blander parts.
 

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4. Dancing With Crime (Cohen Film Collection) First Time Viewing
Coronet Films (Release Date Jun 25, 1947) Director: John Paddy Carstairs, Director of Photography: Reginald Wyer

This film has Richard Attenborough playing the taxi that gets involved in trying to solve the death of his old army buddy who had some mob ties and was out to make quick money. All of this mob business is taking care of using a London dance hall palace as a front. Where he sends in his fiancée to try and get some extra information, so that they can help Scotland Yard to solve the crime. Couple of things I took away from this, is one if somebody says they want to take you to the farm don't go. The use of rain during nighttime scenes with just a little bit of light that's great reflections that can take the place of fog. And three watch out for an incredibly young Diana Dors and her bee stung lips she must have been 15 when she appeared in this in a small cameo as one of the dance hall girls.

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5. The Whistle at Eaton Falls (Flicker Fusion) First Time Viewing

Louis De Rochemont Associates (Release Date Aug 2, 1951) Director: Robert Siodmak, Director of Photography: Joseph Brun

The last of Siodmak’s Hollywood films before his return to Europe, and Columbia Pictures sends him on a road trip along with solid cast to New England for a drama about Labor Unions and a company fighting to survive in a town that has already had one plant closing. And the only one remaining is the townsfolk’s livelihood, that the widow (Gish) of the company’s founder would like to keep going, and picks Union Leader and plant mechanic Brad Adams (Bridges) to run the company over union-hating plant manager Dwight Hawkins.

Now comes the struggle to modernize the plant while keeping it out of bankruptcy and at the same time cutting costs at their expense of workers and their jobs. Not what you'd call a traditional noir film, but it has its moments with good performances all around.

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05) 11-03-22 "Thunder on the Hill" (1951) (Blu-ray) 3/5 Stars
This movie is part of Kino's 2020 "Film Noir: The Dark Side of Cinema Volume 2" Blu-ray set that I never got around to watching until this afternoon. Released in 1951, and directed by Douglas Sirk, this film involves a dedicated nun still feeling guilty from her sister's suicide that becomes obsessed with proving that a young woman convicted of murder and sentence to be hung isn't guilty of killing her invalid brother by poison. Most of the film takes place at a hospital ward at a convent that is temporarily isolated due to flooding from a dam failure. There, many people are hold up including some townspeople, nuns, doctors and nurses as well as the convicted murderess and her police escort that was transporting her to prison for her date with the hangman. Colbert plays the obstinate nun trying to proof the young woman's innocence at the last moment while Ann Blyth plays the convicted murderess. TBH, this film noir has a little too much melodrama for my taste, but it's still a good film with some gothic undertones and set pieces.

Anyhow, I'm glad to finally have watched this movie as it has been on my radar screen for many years. It's too bad this Blu-ray doesn't have an audio commentary like so many of Kino's Blu-ray releases.


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06) 11-03-22 "Dangerous Mission" (1954) (TCM Recording) 2.5/5 Stars
Dangerous Mission (1954) film noir starring Victor Mature, Piper Laurie, William Bendix and Vincent Price. This Technicolor movie was released to theaters in 3-D which made watching this movie even more difficult because the film's color is badly faded and it wasn't presented in 3-D nor in its OAR. This RKO movie is badly in need of some restoration. A young woman witnesses a murder at a NYC nightclub and goes into hiding at Glacier National Park with a hired killer on her trail. Also, looking for the young woman is the police that dispatches one of their best to find her. The screenplay is somewhat lacking plot-wise as well as some wooden spoken dialogue. I'm glad I finally watched this movie that's been on my DVR for several months, but the video presentation was pretty bad for this mediocre film noir which probably didn't help my movie enjoyment. By the way, the TCM showing was in 1.33 ratio, when it probably was filmed in 1.85 ratio. Still, I kind of enjoyed the movie, but mainly for the actors and some of the Glacier National Park footage. Also, there is a loose power line sequence and a forest fire in the movie that have nothing to do with the film premise, but probably both action sequences looked good in movie theaters in 3-D. This movie has been on many 3-D enthusiasts lists for a possible 3-D Blu-ray release, but Warner will have to make some serious financial investment for that ever to happen. Good luck with that.
 

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05) 11/03/2022 House of Strangers (1949) 1667591569491.png 1667591569491.png 1667591569491.png

Richard Conte, once a successful no-nonsense attorney, returns home after a seven year prison stretch bent on revenge against the three brothers who helped put him away. The details of how and why are recounted in flashback. Edward G. Robinson is the father, a successful banker who alienated his sons. Susan Hayward is the woman who's waited all this time for her lover to return. A fascinating drama with fine performances and satisfying finale.

06) 11/03/2022 Phantom Lady (1944) 1667591569491.png 1667591569491.png 1667591569491.png 1/2

When his wife of five years is strangled in her own apartment, husband Alan Curtis claims he has an alibi: a woman whose name he doesn't know. But the police cannot find her, and the bartender, cab driver, and musician who saw her that night deny her existence. But Curtis' secretary Ella Raines, who loves him, decides to begin her own investigation, and puts a target on her back. Top-billed Franchot Tone shows up when the movie's half over, but makes the most of his unhinged character. A most cynical noir in that it suggests anyone can be bought off regardless of the consequences. Attains classic status during the sequence where Elisha Cook, Jr. beats his drums while Raines looks on lustfully. Geez, how'd they get that past the censors?

07) 11/03/2022 The Big Clock (1948) 1667591569491.png 1667591569491.png 1667591569491.png

After killing his mistress in a fit of anger, publishing magnate Charles Laughton decides to put the blame on the man his lover was with that night. He asks his top crime journalist Ray Milland to lead the investigation into tracking down the mystery figure. The twist is that it was Milland who was with the victim, and now he has to figure how to prove his innocence before the truth is found out by the people planning to silence the alleged killer. Taut, tightly plotted thriller with ever-building tension. Remade in 1987 as No Way Out, setting the action in the political realm.
 

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07) 11-04-22 "Plunder Road" (1957) (Blu-ray) 3.5/5 Stars
Wow, I really enjoyed this (1957) train heist movie involving a theft of gold bars worth millions of dollars as the robbers split into three different groups as their escape route covers 900 miles and various police roadblocks until they reach Los Angeles. The fate of each robber is explored and of course, they never get away with it despite a brilliant plan to do so. The production code outcome somewhat weakens the movie, but it was still an entertaining movie as it follows each robber's journey to eventual doom. I had this Olive Blu-ray for over nine years so it was a pleasure to finally watch this independently produced movie for the first time.


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08) 11-04-22 "World for Ransom" (1954) (Blu-ray) 3/5 Stars
Another Olive Blu-ray that I had in my disc collection for a long time that I never watched beforehand. The same for this 1954 movie. An exotic film noir taking place in Singapore in which a private detective is entangled into a kidnapping of a nuclear scientist being held for ransom. The detective played by Dan Duryea, is not involved in the actual kidnapping, but circumstances and his best friend/Patric Knowles being a participant in that crime causes him to be considered a suspect by the authorities. An interesting subplot is that both men are in love with the same woman, who is works as a cross-dressing entertainer at a local nightclub. Robert Aldrich directed this movie, but is uncredited, as it's one of his first films. This movie is kind of an offshoot of the TV series "China Smith" that starred Duryea during the making of this film. Some of the same actors and sets of the TV series were used for this film. This 1954 film had a pretty impressive cast including Gene Lockhart, Reginald Denny, Nigel Bruce in his last film role, Arthur Shields and Douglas Dumbrille. It's another movie that isn't very good, but the fine cast and set sequences made the movie entertaining for me. This film gave early indication that Aldrich was going to be a fine director, once he had film projects with better screenplays.
 

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09) 11-05-22 "City of Fear" (1959) (Blu-ray) 2.5/5 Stars
An escaped prisoner from San Quentin heads to Los Angeles with a canister that he thinks contains heroin. Unfortunately for him, the actual material in the canister is Cobalt-60. That's right, deadly radioactive material that could kill millions of people if the population was exposed to it. Vince Edwards plays the title role in this 1959 movie as the stone-cold killer Vince Ryker. As the body counts increases while Ryker gets sicker with radiation poisoning, the police are searching for him in the LA area. I had trouble with one plot point in the movie. How did Ryker continue to kill and move around the city with his body ravaged by radiation poisoning? This movie is being shown this weekend on Eddie Muller's "Noir Alley". However, on Saturday afternoon, I watched the 2021 Blu-ray which is part of Indicator's "Columbia Noir #3". I haven't listened to Eddie's comments about the movie yet which I plan to do while eating breakfast this morning. IMO, a mediocre film with some plot holes like the authorities being so inept in catching this stupid hoodlum.

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10) 11-06-22 "The Scarlet Hour" (1956) (Blu-ray) 3/5 Stars
I really liked this Michael Curtiz directed movie. With a jewel theft, murder, adultery along with real estate development all mixed into one movie, what's not to like.:) Carol Ohmart playing another adulteress like she did a few years later in "House on Haunted Hill". Not much of an actress, but man, she can deliver some pointed lines of dialogue. Tom Tryon as her young lover, wasn't very good in this particular movie. James Gregory with his hair dyed lighter was excellent in the role of the abusive husband while E.G. Marshall and Edward Binns play the LA detectives investigating a murder. The plot is kind of convoluting as Ohmart and Tryon overhear a plot to steal some jewelry and decide to steal the haul from the thieves themselves. Of course, the plan doesn't go as intended and a murder occurs which sets off all kind of ramifications. I'm in the middle of watching this movie again as the Imprint 2022 Blu-ray has an audio commentary by Alan K. Rode. I suspect that Kino will have their own Blu-ray release of this Paramount VistaVision film in 2023.

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11) 11-06-22 "Shock" (1946) (DVD) 2.75/5 Stars
On Sunday, I decided to watch two film noirs from Fox that I never watched beforehand, even though, I have both films on DVD for over 16 years in my disc library. The first movie is "Shock" (1946) starring Vincent Price and Lynn Bari. A woman witnesses an act of murder at a hotel, goes into severe shock and is treated by a psychiatrist who committed the murder. An early noir thriller with Price playing the doctor/murderer and Bari playing his nurse/"femme fatale" lover trying to cover up the crime by convincing all concern that the woman is insane. Not a bad film premise, but the film's ending kind of let it down. I thought Price was excellent and Bari was really good too in her evil film role.


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12) 11-06-22 "Vicki" (1953) (DVD) 2.75/5 Stars
The second Fox film noir on Sunday was "Vicki" (1953) starring Jeanne Crain and Jean Peters. This is a remake of "I Wake Up Screaming" (1941) the first "film noir" made at Fox. Matter of fact, "I Wake Up Screaming" was being filmed about the same time as "The Maltese Falcon" and both films had Elisha Cook Jr. in roles that are key to the plotlines, but are quite different from each other. IMO, "I Wake Up Screaming" feels like "film noir" even more so than "The Maltese Falcon" especially in regard to how each movie was filmed like the use of lighting, shadows and camera angles.

Anyhow, this 1953 remake isn't as good as the 1941 film. The casting just doesn't measure up to the original film and there are a few significant differences between the two films especially the ending. A young model is murdered in NYC and an obsessed police detective is determined to pin the murder on one particular suspect. Like the first film, it uses flashback to tell a good portion of the background storyline. One interesting tidbit about "Vicki", Aaron Spelling made his film debut in the same role that Elisha Cook Jr. had in the first film. They tell me that Spelling later became some kind of TV producer. I wonder if had any type of success?:laugh:
 

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Today, I'm going to watch two more films I have never seen which are "Dangerous Crossing" (1953) and "Moontide" (1942).

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2) The Maltese Falcon (1941) - HBO Max
The film where Humphrey Bogart, Mary Astor, and two other cast members of Casablanca search for a MacGuffin.

3) To Have and Have Not (1944) - HBO Max
Bogart and Bacall star in an action/musical/noir set in occupied France during WWII. Now I finally know where "You know how to whistle don't you Steve? You just put your lips together and blow." comes from.
 

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08) 11/04/2022 I Wake Up Screaming (1941) 1667829708151.png 1667829708151.png 1667829708151.png

When a promoter's (Victor Mature) latest client (Carole Landis) is murdered, bullish detective Laird Cregar is convinced Mature is guilty. But Landis' sister Betty Grable isn't so sure, so the pair try to find the true culprit. Nicely done mystery with a neat twist at the end.

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Alan Ladd became a star playing a hitman who gets double-crossed by his employer's emissary (Laird Cregar) after completing the job. Ladd decides to hunt his betrayers down, and inadvertently becomes involved with detective's girlfriend, Veronica Lake. Great cast in intense, cat-and-mouse thriller that never lets up. Ladd and Lake are terrific together; Cregar a hoot as the nervous underling who abhors violence.

10) 11/04/2022 The Big Sleep (1946) 1667829708151.png 1667829708151.png 1667829708151.png 1667829708151.png

I wanted to wait a bit longer before watching my all-time favorite mystery movie and noir, but I couldn't help myself. Shamus Humphrey Bogart is hired by wealthy general to payoff a blackmailer, and becomes involved in multiple homicides with multiple killers. Lauren Bacall and Martha Vickers are the general's daughters who, to varying degrees, are mixed up in everything. The dialogue is so phenomenal this is the only movie I could just close my eyes and listen to. And the plot is so complicated that audiences apparently didn't know who killed the chauffeur, although this viewer thought the story made it clear enough during one of Bogart's interrogations. The ending is delightfully nasty too, with Bogart turning the tables on the master villain. A great film all around.

11) 11/06/2022 Double Indemnity (1944) 1667829708151.png 1667829708151.png 1667829708151.png 1667829708151.png

My second favorite noir, and one of the few noirs that has a twinkle in its eye, no doubt because it was directed and co-scripted by Billy Wilder. Insurance salesman Fred MacMurray falls head over anklet for Barbara Stanwyck, who wastes no time suggesting she'd like her jerk husband insured and then killed. But of course things go wrong, as we first meet MacMurray bleeding and recording his confession to boss Edward G. Robinson. The cast couldn't be better; the twists couldn't be twistier. Robinson steals the show as the claims investigator who knows something's wrong with the "accident." Great Miklós Rózsa score too.
 
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6. Repeat Performance (Flicker Alley) First Time Viewing


Bryan Foy Productions (Release Date May 30, 1947) Director: Alfred Werker, Director of Photography: Lew W. O'Connell

Ok so work has put a damper on my viewing, and a couple of technical glitches with the old computer have caused some issues. Was finally able to get some viewing time yesterday. First up this film which I had heard about. So, since Noir is a style, then I guess it could be adapted to fit a fantasy melodrama. Hey, Quoting Eddie Muller on the bonus features. I won’t spoil it, but think of Groundhog Day, with murder, an abusive cheating acholic husband, a gay man that would do anything to help a girl out and getting to relive a year over again to see if things turn out differently.

Eagle Lion take a chance on a star that was sort of blackballed after her suing Warner Brothers over her contract, and because of that Joan Leslie gives one of her best performances. Richard Basehart gets his screen debut, and doesn’t play it campy, as the gay artist. How they got that past Joseph Breen, is another story discussed in the special features.

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7. Terror in a Texas Town (Arrow Academy) First Time Viewing

Seltzer Films, Inc. (Release Date Aug 25, 1958) Director: Joseph H. Lewis, Director of Photography: Ray Rennahan

Next up was this western from Joseph Lewis, a man who sort of knew his way about around some a noir titles, Gun Crazy, My Name is Julia Ross, So Dark the Night, The Big Combo, and more, but he also did his fair share B westerns, and I'm sure that crawdaddy could reference anyone of those that he might suggest for a good watch but at this point. He mashed the two of them together. Not your typical noir western as there are really no dark moments in this it's extremely brightly lit.

So one it's got a director, now it needs a screenwriter, and Lewis didn't give two craps about anything so blacklisted Dalton Trumbo cranks out a script, sterling Hayden is the lead as a Swede coming home to his father's farm but finds out that his father's been murdered. The cast includes some blacklisted actors. With the Swede walking around asking questions that no one is willing to answer apparently oil was found farmers land oil Baron is trying to overtake the entire area by the use of force with a hired gun. The same one that murdered his father, in front of one of his father's neighbors. After getting beat up and thrown on a train to be sent out of town the Swede wakes up rolls off the train and walks back to town. With one of the craziest showdowns, you're ever gonna see in any western. A whaler armed with a harpoon goes face to face with a hired gun.

At this point it's sort of like High Noon where no one wants to help him out and at the same time it's a straight up revenge picture. Everybody does a great job of ratcheting up the tension throughout the entire film, no it's not Anthony Mann or Bud Botcher, but damn it is satisfying!

Highly Recommended
 

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13) 11-07-22 "Moontide" (1942) (DVD) 4/5 Stars
Talk about a movie that surprises you after first viewing it. I have avoided this film for over two decades and now that I'd finally watched it, I had to slap myself upside my head for being too stupid for not watching this movie beforehand. A moody, atmospheric story of a rogue seaman's involvement with a suicidal girl that he rescues from drowning herself and how they fall in love. However, their happiness is threaten by the seaman's best friend and a secret regarding a murder. Talk about a dark, early noir movie with some interesting casting decisions along with a "gay" subtext that somehow got past the production code. Jean Gabin makes his American debut as Bobo which was the first of only two movies he did in America before joining the Free French army to fight the Nazis. Ida Lupino plays the young woman that he rescues which results in her doing the same for him, but in a different way. Thomas Mitchell is cast against type as Bobo's "evil" best friend. Claude Rains is almost unrecognizable as a wise, educated man that befriends Bobo and Anna. This movie was partially directed by Fritz Lang before leaving the film and Archie Mayo ended up finishing the movie. The 2008 DVD offers a solid video presentation along with a good featurette with Robert Osborne, Eddie Muller, Alan K. Rode, Foster Hirsch and others. It also has an audio commentary by Hirsch. Talk about a movie that is meant to be released on Blu-ray by Criterion.


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14) 11-07-22 "Dangerous Crossing" (1953) (DVD) 3.5/5 Stars
Yet, another movie I avoided for years. What a dope! Anyhow, a rich young woman gets married and on their honeymoon cruise, the husband disappears from the ship with evidence that suggests he never existed. This 75 minute movie only took 19 days to film and was made rather cheaply, but still with quality production values as you never think of this movie as a "B" movie. Jeanne Crain plays the main character, Carl Betz plays the missing newlywed. Michael Rennie plays the ship doctor trying to help Crain, but isn't sure of her circumstances while the rest of the ship's crew firmly believes there isn't a husband. A nice little mystery noir with Crain looking as beautiful as ever. The 2008 Fox Film Noir DVD offers a solid video presentation along with an audio commentary that I need to listen to during my next viewing.
 

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