ChadLB
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Shit my 20-39PC has probably less impact than a PB1Why would it have less impact?
Shit my 20-39PC has probably less impact than a PB1Why would it have less impact?
I don't think most people who purchase PCi or CSi subs even think about their sub being the "bottom" of the SVS lineup. They think they're getting a much better sub for the price than most any other sub manufacturer around can produce.Well put, Alex - I agree wholeheartedly. My friend has a 25-31PCi and it shames subs at twice its price. I never feel like I am compromising when I visit his house for a movie.
BTW, just how big is your HT room?
Ed
but lets just pretend for a second that you guys didn't have the great reputation you have and you were trying to win me over to buying a PB-1 over an HSU VTF-3. Assuming roughly the same price what reasons would you list for buying the SVSBritton:
There was a lengthy thread on this subject a few months ago when the PB1-ISD was first introduced. You can peruse that entire thread at your leisure, so I'll try to be succinct and answer your question.
First, the HSU VTF-3 costs $910 shipped from HSU. The SVS PB1-ISD costs $640 shipped from SVS. That is not "roughly the same price" - $250 isn't chump change in this highly competitive segment. Another way to look at it - the HSU costs about 42% more than the SVS.
With that said, in terms of user features, clean SPL capability, and rated extension - these two products are very, very close in performance. They are also both excellent subwoofers, and the VTF-3 has a well deserved reputation as a great sub - and so does the PB1-ISD.
The only advantage the HSU offers over the SVS is the ability to plug one of its 3" ports and tune the sub for 18 Hz instead of 22 Hz. However, plugging a port does result in a 4 dB loss in max SPL capability.
In a nutshell, except for the ability to lower the tune, the SVS virtually matches the performance of the HSU for about 2/3 the price.
When SVS introduces the PB1-Plus, it will likely cost about the same as the VTF-3, and rest assured it will outperform the VTF-3 by a significant margin in all measurable parameters.
SVS does not introduce any product with the intention of matching the competition at any given price segment - from the outset, their philosophy has always been to beat the competition in performance and price, and they have thus far succeeded with every product release.
Both companies offer a lengthy trial period (45 SVS, 30 HSU) and a money back guarantee (all you pay is return shipping). SVS is not afraid to step into the ring with the VTF-3, even with the MUCH less expensive PB1-ISD. If you buy both, when the dust settles I doubt you will find the VTF-3 offers $250 worth of a real world performance edge over the PB1-ISD.
Regards,
Ed
Well put, Alex - I agree wholeheartedly. My friend has a 25-31PCi and it shames subs at twice its price. I never feel like I am compromising when I visit his house for a movie.
BTW, just how big is your HT room?
EdEd,
My HT room is ~6000 cubic feet. It's in the basement so its carpet on a concrete slab and its open to other areas of the house, namely the living room which has a volume considerably larger than the family room, ~9,000-10,000 cubic feet.
My HT room is ~6000 cubic feet. It's in the basement so its carpet on a concrete slab and its open to other areas of the house, namely the living room which has a volume considerably larger than the family room, ~9,000-10,000 cubic feet.Hi Alex:
Well, that certainly IS a large room and a large adjoining space - lots of air to move. But there are some things we can swing in your favor to maximize the return on investment.
To the extent possible, try to locate the sub away from any open spaces and keep it fairly close to the key listening positions. Also initially run it with all three ports open in the 25 Hz tune for maximum output potential.
If you try the above, I think you'll be pretty amazed at what the PB2+ is capable of - even in a 6,000 ft3 basement.
Regards,
Ed