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Ronald Epstein

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Bringing this thread back to light now that Bill Hunt was able
to break the news:


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The Wizard of Oz: 75th Anniversary Edition[COLOR= rgb(68, 68, 68)] on Blu-ray 3D (Q4)![/COLOR]


This was something I was aware of but unable to discuss.
However, when the subject arose that Warner was re-releasing
The Wizard of Oz to Blu-ray and members here started lashing
out at the studio about yet another release, I felt that I should
come in let everyone know that the studio had something special
in store for the title.

At least some fans, like myself, will be happy about the 3D
conversion. Others, I suspect will not.
 

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My guess is there will be a regular old "new" 2D version as well for anyone who doesn't want the 3D. That should be me last trip to this well (Collector's Edition DVD, first BD).

I understand why they're doing 3D, but I don't necessarily like it. HOWEVER, I won't be leading the torches and pitchforks brigade against Warner or anyone who wants the 3D version.
 

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I understand why they're doing 3D, but I don't necessarily like it. HOWEVER, I won't be leading the torches and pitchforks brigade against Warner or anyone who wants the 3D version.


I understand how some people feel.

True story...

I actually wrote the studio an email in the beginning of the year
suggesting that they convert The Wizard of Oz for 3D.

In fact, I thought I had a revolutionary idea to present to them.
I was very proud that I had thought of it, and was going to do
everything I could to persuade them to do it.

Unfortunately, I cannot take credit for the idea. I suppose that
there were others that already had thought the idea through as the
studio was already in the process of doing the conversion.

After seeing what James Cameron did with TITANIC, I have
high hopes for The Wizard Of Oz. The potential is high that with
the added depth perception, this could be an entirely fresh viewing
experience. In fact, if the kind of care is put into this title that Cameron
put into his TITANIC, the results could be absolutely tremendous.

Really, I expect people to be very excited about this. If any movie
would benefit from a 2D to 3D conversion it would be this one.
 

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Ronald Epstein said:
I actually wrote the studio an email in the beginning of the year
suggesting that they convert The Wizard of Oz for 3D.
Sorry, Ron- to my thinking, there's no meaningful distinction between an after-the-fact 3D conversion performed by not-original parties and an after-the-fact colorization performed by not-original parties. The artists who made The Wizard of Oz made thousands of artistic and aesthetic choices in doing so. Let's not re-make and un-make those decisions for them.
 

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Sorry, Ron- to my thinking, there's no meaningful distinction between an after-the-fact 3D conversion performed by not-original parties and an after-the-fact colorization performed by not-original parties. The artists who made The Wizard of Oz made thousands of artistic and aesthetic choices in doing so. Let's not re-make and un-make those decisions for them.
Couldn't agree more.
 

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Well, that's another side of the argument I knew would
be presented, and it's a valid one.

We don't know what the original parties would have
wanted for TWOO had they had the 3D technology available
at the time, or in the future.

So, I respect those opinions wholeheartedly that perhaps
this is something that should not have been touched.

And of course, those that disagree with what is being done
have the choice of not buying the product.
 

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein /t/322693/gwtw-and-wizard-of-oz-again-in-2013/150#post_3983959
Well, that's another side of the argument I knew would
be presented, and it's a valid one.

We don't know what the original parties would have
wanted for TWOO had they had the 3D technology available
at the time, or in the future.

So, I respect those opinions wholeheartedly that perhaps
this is something that should not have been touched.

And of course, those that disagree with what is being done
have the choice of not buying the product.
I'm sorrry, but I can't go along with this 3-D conversion. Unlike, Titanic, TWOO won't have the original filmmaker involved in this conversion so I have a problem with them conveying that filmmaker's vision on his film to 3-D. Warner is going to have to sell me on this idea before I commit any further monies to such 3-D conversions. And that goes for any other studio that doesn't have the original filmmakers involved in converting these screen classics to 3-D.
 

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Robert Crawford said:
I'm sorrry, but I can't go along with this 3-D conversion. 
As someone once said: "Don't apologise mister, it's a sign of weakness..."
Frankly, as long as the original exists to enjoy, they can do what the hell they like with it. And they will.
 

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Originally Posted by John Hodson /t/322693/gwtw-and-wizard-of-oz-again-in-2013/150#post_3983962
As someone once said: "Don't apologise mister, it's a sign of weakness..."
Frankly, as long as the original exists to enjoy, they can do what the hell they like with it. And they will.
I think that goes without saying, but that doesn't mean I have to support their efforts financially which is my point.
 

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Originally Posted by Chas in CT /t/322693/gwtw-and-wizard-of-oz-again-in-2013/150#post_3983966
This looks to be one heckuva thread!
We have a HTF Meet in a couple of weeks in LA, hopefully, Warner will be able to convince me and other HTF members that their 3-D conversion intentions would be a great HT experience for us.
 

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I always figured I'd be agin' it, but Ron's take on it has me sold. This is one vintage film for which I guess it was inevitable, anyway -- but beyond that, I surprise myself by actually being on board with it.
 

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John Hodson said:
Frankly, as long as the original exists to enjoy, they can do what the hell they like with it.
The trouble with that sentiment is that access and availability define the term, "exists". It's nice to have the original work preserved, but if it only exists on a shelf in a vault and the next generation of viewers only becomes familiar (by a preponderance of distribution and sales) with the adulterated (3D-converted, colorized, panned-and-scanned, etc.) version, the art may as well not be preserved.
To truly preserve the art, the most accurately-presented expression of the filmmakers' original intent needs to remain the premier version of the film.
 

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Never been a big fan of Oz, but I might give it a look in 3D. I hope they'd keep the Kansas stuff 2D and then bring in the 3D with the color, that would be pretty cool.
I think the requirement for things like 3D conversions and colorization etc, should be that the original versions must be preserved alongside the new - when the creators are no longer with us to have their say.
 

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein /t/322693/gwtw-and-wizard-of-oz-again-in-2013/150#post_3983929
At least some fans, like myself, will be happy about the 3D
conversion. Others, I suspect will not.

Seriously. ? Not a joke. ?
 

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Seriously. ? Not a joke. ?

No, Mr. Unecessary Sarcasm --

Quite evident and properly predicted by the
responses already in this thread.
 

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Originally Posted by Ronald Epstein /t/322693/gwtw-and-wizard-of-oz-again-in-2013/180#post_3984088

No, Mr. Unecessary Sarcasm --

Quite evident and properly predicted by the
responses already in this thread.

It's probably a good idea, if they do a great job of it then it might open a whole new market for the movie and get more people interested in the classics, as long as the original is also available i don't have a problem with it, do you know if any improvements were done to the 2D edition of the film or is the 3D release the only new thing being added.
 

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