THIS ISLAND EARTH (1955) on Blu-Ray – when?

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Does anyone have any idea if or when Universal Home Entertainment will get around to releasing the science fiction classic movie THIS ISLAND EARTH on Blu-Ray ???
There was talk about this back in 2005 for its 50th Anniversary, but that came and went without it happening. A special edition DVD-Blu-Ray was discussed then, with special features, but as I recall, Universal was being sold from one parent company to another, and any plans they had then were put on hold or scrapped.
As we saw, there was a bargain-level DVD release in 2006, which did not even use the original ads or movie posters, and it came off looking like a B-movie release, which irked a lot of the fans, due to its association with that silly MST3K movie of 1996.
Another classic Universal film of the 1950s I would love to see on DVD & Blu-Ray is the first historical epic made by Universal, SIGN OF THE PAGAN (1954) in CinemaScope wide-screen format.

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  1. This Island Earth is long overdue on BD since it's a really good looking film and minor sci-fi classic . Same goes for incredible Shrinking Man , and the rest of the films that were included on the two 1950's Sci -Fi box sets of DVDs . I have a hunch we'll see them as soon as they finish the Universal Monsters series (Invisible Man , and Creature From The Black Lagoon). Universal seems to be again actively releasing their catalog lately . Who knows , maybe someday we'll see the Abbott And Costello box set as well.

  2. LouA

    This Island Earth is long overdue on BD since it's a really good looking film and minor sci-fi classic . Same goes for incredible Shrinking Man , and the rest of the films that were included on the two 1950's Sci -Fi box sets of DVDs . I have a hunch we'll see them as soon as they finish the Universal Monsters series (Invisible Man , and Creature From The Black Lagoon). Universal seems to be again actively releasing their catalog lately . Who knows , maybe someday we'll see the Abbott And Costello box set as well.

    I have a sneaky suspicion the Universal Monsters series may be stalled due, in part, to their Dark Universe series being at a standstill. Hopefully, I'm wrong!

    CHEERS! 🙂

  3. Region-free? No. But for those with multiregion players, Arrow UK (Region B-locked) has a fine edition of THE INCREDIBLE SHRINKING MAN. Germany offers good-quality Blus (also Region B-locked) of TARANTULA!, THE LAND UNKNOWN, and THE MONOLITH MONSTERS.

  4. I have the German Blu Ray and just watched it for the 1st time this past weekend. I had no playback issues but it is region B on the box. Probably not as good looking as it could be. Every version I have ever seen of this movie seems to have less than the vibrant color that most 50's Universal movies have. Maybe that's the way its supposed to look. But either way its a big step up from the DVD and looks great in its OAR and not the full screen abomination on DVD. I usually avoid French blu rays because I keep hearing that most have non-removable subtitles.

  5. I suspect that if we indeed see any of the 1950s Universal sci-fi titles in Region A, they'll be released by Shout! Of course, it all depends on how active Universal themselves remain in catalogue sales. If their latest efforts flop, I'd look to Shout!

  6. Randy Korstick

    I'm really hoping someone will do a blu ray of the Deadly Mantis. I have a soft spot for this one but can't watch the DVD because of the awful full screen.

    Add The Monster from Green Hell, and The Giant Claw please.

  7. Randy Korstick

    I have the German Blu Ray and just watched it for the 1st time this past weekend. I had no playback issues but it is region B on the box. Probably not as good looking as it could be. Every version I have ever seen of this movie seems to have less than the vibrant color that most 50's Universal movies have. Maybe that's the way its supposed to look. But either way its a big step up from the DVD and looks great in its OAR and not the full screen abomination on DVD. I usually avoid French blu rays because I keep hearing that most have non-removable subtitles.

    No forced subtitles on this EARTH: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film5/blu-ray_reviews_69/this_island_earth_blu-ray.htm

  8. Richard V

    Add The Monster from Green Hell, and The Giant Claw please.

    I think Monster From Green Hell is one of those Wade Williams films . Giant Claw is Columbia, and their films seem to be going to Mill Creek . Hopefully Mill Creek will issue GC and other Columbia films on BD.

  9. I've had the German version for some time. Oddly, it's a step up in resolution over the DVD but the colors aren't as rich and ,in fact, look washed out in comparison.

    As has been stated here why don't we have a region A version ?

    Still hoping for When Worlds Collide, Destination Moon and War of the Worlds at some point.

  10. CarlosMeat

    I've had the German version for some time. Oddly, it's a step up in resolution over the DVD but the colors aren't as rich and ,in fact, look washed out in comparison.

    As has been stated here why don't we have a region A version ?

    Still hoping for When Worlds Collide, Destination Moon and War of the Worlds at some point.

    Don't hold your breath. Unless Paramount finally releases all the classic films they hold hostage (scores and scores of them) to some small label, WWC and WOTW will not happen. DESTINATION MOON is in the endless stranglehold of Wade Williams.

  11. CarlosMeat

    I've had the German version for some time. Oddly, it's a step up in resolution over the DVD but the colors aren't as rich and ,in fact, look washed out in comparison.

    As has been stated here why don't we have a region A version ?

    Still hoping for When Worlds Collide, Destination Moon and War of the Worlds at some point.

    I agree with you. The black levels are rather weak.

  12. I don't remember ever seeing this movie, and I'm not familiar with her, but my first thought upon seeing this thread was "Faith Domergue."

    I must have seen newspaper ads when it first came out (when I was 3).

  13. I saw this on it's initial run in 1955. Was sitting next to my mom, and the mutant, when in the spaceship dissolved, I jumped into my mom's lap and asked if they would please turn down the sound as it was scaring me. I do remember the trailer showing the small airplane being drawn up into the flying saucer in the green light.

    Year later, I'm working an overtime day at the fire station (LAFD FS 20) across from the theater (The Ramona Theater) on Sunset Blvd/at Glendale Blvd.) and I tell him the story and we both laugh…such a small world.

    Of course, it wasn't until years later that I finally saw the movie in its entirety.

    Hence, one of my favorite movies of all time next to FORBIDDEN PLANET!

  14. I was fortunate enough to see this theatrically when it was presented as a Saturday kiddie matinee in the 60's. I hope that a future domestic release on Blu-ray can duplicate the rich and saturated colors of the 35mm print I was so impressed with as a teenager. The German Blu is okay, but it's still a little contrasty and the colors remain weak, although stronger than previous video editions. A perfect release for Shout!

  15. Paramount has HD masters of War of the Worlds and Conquest Of Space available for rental and purchase on digital services like iTunes and Vudu. Now that they seem slightly more open to licensing stuff, hopefully one of their third party distributors will be allowed to put them out on a disc at some point.

    Destination Moon is Wade Williams, so…(bangs head against wall in frustration)

  16. We'll NEVER see this in our lifetime (us oldtimers) on a (US) BD on a disc. This movie, for us that collect sci-fi/horror, is our HOLY GRAIL…along with all the other 50's greats!!!

    When it finally comes out on BD, throw it on my grave and say, "Geese, here it is, sorry it took so long to finally come out…oh, wait, you're the only one that cared if it did!!!" 😮

  17. John Sparks

    We'll NEVER see this in our lifetime (us oldtimers) on a (US) BD on a disc. This movie, for us that collect sci-fi/horror, is our HOLY GRAIL…along with all the other 50's greats!!!

    When it finally comes out on BD, throw it on my grave and say, "Geese, here it is, sorry it took so long to finally come out…oh, wait, you're the only one that cared if it did!!!" 😮

    John, you obviously missed that the whole reason this thread got bumped today is that Shout Factory just announced a Blu-ray.

  18. It would be cool if the Castle Films 8mm version was included as an extra. It was re-titled WAR OF THE PLANETS, I believe. I must have watched that hundreds of times on my Bell & Howell 8mm projector.

  19. RBailey

    It would be cool if the Castle Films 8mm version was included as an extra. It was re-titled WAR OF THE PLANETS, I believe. I must have watched that hundreds of times on my Bell & Howell 8mm projector.

    But no mutant… what a rip-off. This was my very first movie of what would eventually grow to be a 300-title 8mm/super 8mm digest collection, and the reason it was so is because I knew the excerpts came from THIS ISLAND EARTH…surely we'd get a glimpse of the creature! :angry:

  20. Collecting castle films on 8mm was a big part of my childhood. I still have them including several Abbott and Costello ones. Fun Times and the start of my lifelong movie collecting on VHS, Laserdisc, DVD, HD-DVD and Blu Ray

  21. One of the most unique aspects of this film is the plot. Our heroes are taken to the planet, observe the destruction, then manage to escape.

    Unlike most movie protagonists, they are just observers. They aren't able to save the two warring societies; they can only save themselves.

  22. Doug Otte

    One of the most unique aspects of this film is the plot. Our heroes are taken to the planet, observe the destruction, then manage to escape.

    Unlike most movie protagonists, they are just observers. They aren't able to save the two warring societies; they can only save themselves.

    Very interesting. Rocket Ship XM and Silent Star are similar in that regard but after the fact .

  23. CarlosMeat

    Very interesting. Rocket Ship XM and Silent Star are similar in that regard but after the fact .

    Speaking of SILENT STAR (known as FIRST SPACESHIP ON VENUS in its awful, truncated, badly-dubbed American release)….would the rightsholder of this fascinating production please give it a decent Blu-ray release, please?

  24. Yea , the only example I have of Silent Star is a non-anamorphic DVD ! The only thing I don't like about the film is the fact that the doctor is the child of Hiroshima so it sets the date of the entire film not at some time in the future but right around 1975.

  25. BobO’Link

    ^You probably have a set like this:
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    I managed to snag one of those right before they went OOP. It's a superb set that I'd love to see reissued on BR! It has The Silent Star, In the Dust of the Stars, and Eolomea.

    Yes that is where I got Silent Star.

  26. BobO’Link

    ^You probably have a set like this:
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    I managed to snag one of those right before they went OOP. It's a superb set that I'd love to see reissued on BR! It has The Silent Star, In the Dust of the Stars, and Eolomea.

    Boy, not for $90 on eBay or $446 @ Amazon CA..

  27. I would also like to see This Island Earth on blu-ray. It makes my top ten of sci fi films of the fifties….

    Invasion of the Body Snatchers
    20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
    War of the Worlds

    Forbidden Planet
    This Island Earth
    When Worlds Collide
    The Day the Earth Stood Still
    The Fly
    The Thing From Another World
    Conquest of Space

  28. Play it LOUD and be sure to warn the neighbors in advance.

    It was quite interesting looking at the audio WAV files on a scope.

    Universal's current mono master is very even and flat meaning it's been heavily compressed and filtered in the digital realm. There's hardly any dynamic range whatsoever.

    The 3-channel Perspecta track is the total opposite and really makes you appreciate the original intent for this highly dynamic sound design. When it's meant to be loud, they pulled no punches with the mix.

    As Jolson said, "You ain't heard nothin' yet!"

  29. Josh Steinberg

    Bob is testing my resolve not to make any more blind buys – but truth be told, every project of his that I’ve bought has always been well worth it. I’m in.

    Me, too–but I've seen the movie (many times) and look forward to really hearing it for the first time. Purchase with confidence!

  30. My small town theater did not convert to widescreen till 195? (Can't remember.) So I remember seeing This Island Earth multiple times there in 1.37. Looking forward to finally watching it in its OAR. To hell with nostalgia!

  31. Well, to tell my story once again, all I remember is being with my mom at the Rialto Theater on Sunset Blvd. at Alvarado in Los Angeles and so, I had to be about 6 tears old. I was in my own seat, and then the mutant dissolves on the floor in the saucer.

    I jumped into my mom's lap and told her to ask them to turn down the sound, because it was scaring me, including the scene I had just watched.

    Fast forward 25 years. I'm standing in front of LAFD fire station 20 working an overtime day across from the movie theater.

    I tell the firefighter that I'm with about the story and we both laugh.

  32. John Sparks

    Well, to tell my story once again, all I remember is being with my mom at the Rialto Theater on Sunset Blvd. at Alvarado in Los Angeles and so, I had to be about 6 tears old. I was in my own seat, and then the mutant dissolves on the floor in the saucer.

    I jumped into my mom's lap and told her to ask them to turn down the sound, because it was scaring me, including the scene I had just watched.

    Fast forward 25 years. I'm standing in front of LAFD fire station 20 working an overtime day across from the movie theater.

    I tell the firefighter that I'm with about the story and we both laugh.

    I think you mean the Ramona Theater not the Rialto. The only Rialto I know is in Pasadena.

  33. I first saw this film in1961, I was 10 & it was showing on Easter Sunday only, & the cinema was The Royalty, Ladbroke Grove, West London (which closed down just a couple of years later), & I've loved it ever since. I saw it with my older sister & a school friend. My sister has no memory of it, but then she's one of the normal majority (not like us), it was just a movie, seen & forgotten.

  34. Camper

    Could someone please explain the aspect ratio situation? Was it meant to be seen in 1.85 but sometimes shown in 1.37 or vice versa?
    Thanks

    The correct aspect ratio is 2.00-1, but 1.85-1 is close enough. The film is protected for 1.37-1 like most flat films from that period, but widescreen is what the compositions are made for.

  35. Camper

    Could someone please explain the aspect ratio situation? Was it meant to be seen in 1.85 but sometimes shown in 1.37 or vice versa?
    Thanks

    The correct aspect ratio is 2.00-1, but 1.85-1 is close enough. The film is protected for 1.37-1 like most flat films from that period, but widescreen is what the compositions are made for.

  36. haineshisway

    I think you mean the Ramona Theater not the Rialto. The only Rialto I know is in Pasadena.

    You're so right. I had been talking with my son about when I took them to the Rialto in So. Pas in the 70's to see HOUSE OF WAX and IT CAME FROM OUTER SPACE in 3D when we lived in Alhambra. Then I got on here and still had the theater on my mind. Thanks for the correction
    ,

  37. John Sparks

    You're so right. I had been talking with my son about when I took them to the Rialto in So. Pas in the 70's to see HOUSE OF WAX and IT CAME FROM OUTER SPACE in 3D when we lived in Alhambra. Then I got on here and still had the theater on my mind. Thanks for the correction
    ,

    I'd only been to the Ramona once, to see Modesty Blaise 🙂 I have tons of old LA movie sections here, and if you want some real fun, go to newspapers.com and do a one-week free trial, then search LA Times. I went all the way back to 1954 to check out stuff. Really fascinating.

  38. I have most of the sixties editions of the magazine Films & Filming, & they had a section of listing the films opening in the West End & the films going on general release, plus a big list of the films showing on TV. A real walk down memory lane (in London).

  39. Somebody asked why this restoration was not available to the company in Australia that released it on Blu-ray recently?

    That's because Shout provided the funding for the 4K restoration and I'll toot my own horn on the Perspecta restoration.

    I contacted Shout directly and proposed this audio restoration. Universal does not have the stereo tracks so it was through my efforts that original 35mm prints with the stereo optical tracks were located and scanned. 3-D Film Archive was given a crazy tight deadline and for a restoration project that realistically should have taken several months, we accomplished the impossible in about three weeks!

    Be sure to check out the credits in the Perspecta supplement that I assembled for a complete list of all the people that helped to restore this fantastic audio.

    Major kudos to Cliff Macmillan at Shout for his vision and willingness to make this happen.

    Also, any tiny small-town theaters that might have played this in the standard ratio did not play it in stereophonic sound. Be sure that your audio system is properly calibrated for maximum enjoyment.

    This is from our FACTS ABOUT PERSPECTA STEREOPHONIC SOUND supplement:

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  40. Any tiny small town theater that may have run this film in the Academy ratio would not have played it in Perspecta. That highly directional sound system was designed for theaters with wide screens.

    I believe there’s a mono track on the disc as well.

  41. Bob Furmanek

    Any tiny small town theater that may have run this film in the Academy ratio would not have played it in Perspecta. That highly directional sound system was designed for theaters with wide screens.

    I believe there’s a mono track on the disc as well.

    That's how I saw the film more than once in my small-town theater. Academy ratio, mono sound, eye-popping color, Faith Domergue, the scary aliens. Did I mention Faith Domergue?

  42. Due to an error, this image was omitted from my "Facts About Perspecta Stereophonic Sound" supplement on the TIE Blu-ray. In it's place, image #8 was repeated out of sequence.

    This is image #3 so please download it if you want to read the conclusion of the original promotional brochure.

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  43. disctrip

    Shout factory listed War of The Planets, the 50' & 200' Castle version as an extra. I did not see it listed on the back cover in the Extras section. Is it part of the extras?

    Yes. they are there. First thing I watched today before I watched the film. I had the 50 foot version and ran the heck out of it on my Bell & Howell.

  44. RBailey

    Yes. they are there. First thing I watched today before I watched the film. I had the 50 foot version and ran the heck out of it on my Bell & Howell.

    And I had the 200' version and watched it alot on my Brumberger.In fact, I still have it.

  45. RBailey

    Yes. they are there. First thing I watched today before I watched the film. I had the 50 foot version and ran the heck out of it on my Bell & Howell.

    Too bad they didn't include the 17-minute color/sound cut-down on the Universal 8 label (Castle Films redux), which I also owned.

  46. disctrip

    Shout factory listed War of The Planets, the 50' & 200' Castle version as an extra. I did not see it listed on the back cover in the Extras section. Is it part of the extras?

    Shout has an odd tendency to not list all the special features on the back cover. Not even an "And More".

  47. Bob Furmanek

    Whenever you do get to watch it Robert, I hope that you enjoy it!

    Wow! I sampled the first five minutes as I needed to see it in 1.85 ratio for the first time. I will try to watch the entire disc in the next several days.

  48. Robert Crawford

    Wow! I sampled the first five minutes as I needed to see it in 1.85 ratio for the first time. I will try to watch the entire disc in the next several days.

    Isn't the German Blu Ray in 1.85:1? I have it but watched it over a year ago. I'm hoping this is a big upgrade over the german blu. Color was not that good there just as in all previous home video versions. I have this coming tomorrow so fingers crossed its worth it as its not cheap.

  49. TJPC

    Loved the movie, bought a copy, but got to admit it is one of the silliest flicks since “Queen of Outer Space”.

    Not to a 6 year old seeing it when it first came out. Just a scary movie (when the mutant dissolves on the space ship) right up there with all the others that came out during that time period that I was lucky to watch. I carried that love of them over to a 70 year adult. I don't judge old movies by how I think/feel today, just how they make me feel back then.

    Being at the drive-in when they were originally released and as a kid watching RODAN, THE MYSTERIANS…all great memories.

    I never saw QOOS when it was released or at matinees at the time that I remember, but campy is what sci-fi lovers like the best IMHO!

    TIE is on my viewing schedule this week along with the THE DEADLY MANTIS and MOTHRA…First was 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA…WHAT A WEEK OF VIEWING!!!

    A BIG SHOUT TO BOB FURMANEK AND HIS TEAM FOR THE WONDERFUL JOB tHEY DID ON THE AUDIO on TIE!!!

  50. LOL, with the late, great Bob Eberenz, Chief Engineer for Fine Sound and Perspecta Sound.

    We're in front of a fully restored Fairchild integrator. And the movie we're about to watch in 35mm Technicolor on that day in May 1996? This Island Earth!

    I've been most anxious for other people to experience this great track for the past 23 years!

  51. Bob, congratulations to you and your team for the magnificent work you did on TIE! This child saw this film many times flat in mono sound, 35mm Tech in his small town theater; so to see it for the first time in 1.85 and in Perspecta Sound was a revelation.
    So thanks again and again and again!

  52. Randy Korstick

    Isn't the German Blu Ray in 1.85:1? I have it but watched it over a year ago. I'm hoping this is a big upgrade over the german blu. Color was not that good there just as in all previous home video versions. I have this coming tomorrow so fingers crossed its worth it as its not cheap.

    I don't know as I never bought the German Blu-ray due some PQ concerns expressed by other posters.

  53. The only thing that really bugs me about this new disc is that there is no bookmarking, and doesn't start where you left off if you have to switch off for any reason. There aren't many blu-ray's (or dvd's for that matter) that behave this way.

    I'm assuming that it's an authoring choice (correct me if I am wrong). I just don't understand this choice.

  54. What is astonishing about the Criterion disc, is the amount of different versions that are on the disc. You get 2 choices of aspect ratios, a commentary version plus two different abridged versions. Are all of these in HD? How do they all fit on one disc?

  55. TJPC

    What is astonishing about the Criterion disc, is the amount of different versions that are on the disc. You get 2 choices of aspect ratios, a commentary version plus two different abridged versions. Are all of these in HD? How do they all fit on one disc?

    You mean Shout! Factory?

  56. TJPC

    What is astonishing about the Criterion disc, is the amount of different versions that are on the disc. You get 2 choices of aspect ratios, a commentary version plus two different abridged versions. Are all of these in HD? How do they all fit on one disc?

    Space isn't an issue. All four versions amount to about 3 hours and 5 minutes.
    Widescreen version: 86 minutes
    Full Frame version: 86 minutes
    Castle Films Super-8 Sound: 10 minutes
    Castle Films silent (headline version): 3 minutes.

  57. Robert Crawford

    I don't know as I never bought the German Blu-ray due some PQ concerns expressed by other posters.

    The German Blu was 1.85. I was one of the posters who had trouble with it. A French Blu worked but neither is nearly as satisfying as Shout’s, so they’re both coasters now.

  58. I've read some comments here and elsewhere that suggest the PQ of this Shout! release is not that much of an improvement over the German imports. Well, I owned those imports and thought the colors were not really vibrant on them, and the contrast was too high, losing detail in the whites and skies. Tonight I finished watching Shout/Scream's disc, and I disagree roughly 1000% with those who don't think this is exponentially better. Lovely color, contrast proper, shadow detail present, sharp as its ever been. At last! I have owned this movie on every format on which it was ever available, starting with 8mm black and white/silent, then Super 8mm color/sound, then VHS, then laser disc (don't think it was ever released on CED) then DVD, and several inferior Blu-rays. This will certainly be the last copy I will ever need. Haven't seen it? You're in for a treat. Shout! is doing a lot of great work these past couple of years.

    Wish I could enjoy your Perspecta Sound, Bob, but I am probably among a tiny handful of HTF members who has a home theater but not a discreet 5.1 system (my receiver is quite old and can only permit me a 4.0 surround, using five speakers but the sub-woofer is not separately powered). Right now having such a 5.1 installed (let alone Atmos) is out of the question. 🙁

  59. I've just watched the new Scream Factory Blu-ray of This Island Earth and am filled with joy at the superb HD presentation here, finally worthy of the film itself! Vibrant and genuine colors, great definition and wonderful sound. And the bonus features are extraordinary and of real value too. We collectors and fans can only rarely hope to experience the thrill in savoring a long held favorite film as though we are seeing it for the first time. For me, this was the case here!

    Buy this without hesitation!

    And many thanks to Shout/Scream Factory, Universal, Bob Furmanek and everyone else who has had a hand in bringing this treasure back to us!

    [​IMG]

  60. Bob Furmanek

    Greg Kintz can better answer but if you have left, center and right speakers, it should work for you. Try it!

    It’s not just the speakers, if I’m reading Dick’s post correctly, he might be running a simple Pro Logic system, in which case the results he gets from a 3.0 track will be dependent on how well his receiver decodes the three discrete channels into the Dolby matrix and then back out again.

  61. disctrip

    Shout factory listed War of The Planets, the 50' & 200' Castle version as an extra. I did not see it listed on the back cover in the Extras section. Is it part of the extras?

    Bob Furmanek

    Yes, provided by yours truly! It was a last minute addition and the cover was already done.

    I suggested them for the set and Shout was delighted.

    Bob, thank you so much for suggesting those as extras. I played both of those yesterday, and it brought back memories of me as a kid watching Castle Films mini-movies on my father's 8mm projector. Great stuff!

  62. Rodney

    Bob, thank you so much for suggesting those as extras. I played both of those yesterday, and it brought back memories of me as a kid watching Castle Films mini-movies on my father's 8mm projector. Great stuff!

    The 8-minute sound version came from a 16mm source. As a kid I could not afford 16mm. The 8mm/Super 8mm edition was, to my knowledge, never released by Castle with sound, unlike almost all its other Sci-Fi cut-downs.

  63. Rodney

    Bob, thank you so much for suggesting those as extras. I played both of those yesterday, and it brought back memories of me as a kid watching Castle Films mini-movies on my father's 8mm projector. Great stuff!

    I also grew up with Castle Films so they have a special place in my memories as well!

    In fact, I’m putting together nearly one hours worth of Castle shorts (all taken from mint 16mm prints) for a very special upcoming Blu-ray collection…

  64. For those wondering about subtle differences in the mono track; the mix is different.

    Compare the scene at the dinner table when they are listening to Mozart. The music is very prominent in the mono mix and at the appropriate level – as quiet background music for dining – in the Perspecta mix.

    Just a reminder…

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  65. Bob Furmanek

    For those wondering about subtle differences in the mono track; the mix is different.

    Compare the scene at the dinner table when they are listening to Mozart. The music is very prominent in the mono mix and at the appropriate level – as quiet background music for dining – in the Perspecta mix.

    Just a reminder…

    [​IMG]

    Bob, I have discrete channels, except I use a phantom center (ie no actual center speaker). Do you think it would work ok?

  66. Josh Steinberg

    FYI, this appears to be on some kind of Amazon secret sale. When I put it in my cart and went to the final checkout page, there was an additional discount (around $4.50) added.

    There are a number of discs that have checkout discounts right now; not sure if that's part of the upcoming Prime Days promotion? The discount appears on the item page, under the list of "editions" (usually to the lower right of the item picture, in green font). It's $4.30 for this title, also for Monolith Monsters, and I've seen other discounts of varying amounts on a number of discs (Shazam! 3D has a $7 checkout discount).

    Note that these discounts will only appear when you checkout. They will not appear as discounts on the item page.

  67. I have been lucky enough to have seen & heard almost every major film format over the years, including nitrate, I.B. Technicolor, 3-panel Cinerama, dual-system 3D and even the giant picture expansion of the finale of Portrait of Jennie at Eastman House. Perspecta sound has been the most elusive, as I don't recall ever seeing any opportunity to hear it in any venue over the years. I was surprised how effective it was / is.

    Thanks to Bob for approaching Shout! and thanks to Shout! for going the extra mile!

  68. Bob Furmanek

    I also grew up with Castle Films so they have a special place in my memories as well!

    In fact, I’m putting together nearly one hours worth of Castle shorts (all taken from mint 16mm prints) for a very special upcoming Blu-ray collection…

    That sounds pretty cool, Bob. I've never seen any of these cut-downs looking good at all on DVD or Blu-ray, but perhaps you have a way of making them look reasonably sharp. In any case, it's fun to have them. In spite of the work involved and low monetary compensation, you must be having a helluva great time with all your projects, and all the power to you! One hour's worth of these would be about 7 titles. Have you 14, to fill out the disc? 🙂

  69. Bob Furmanek

    Greg Kintz can better answer but if you have left, center and right speakers, it should work for you. Try it!

    It actually does — thanks. I hear the directional dialog and sound effects. All set, I guess.

  70. RobertR

    Bob, I have discrete channels, except I use a phantom center (ie no actual center speaker). Do you think it would work ok?

    Hi
    I have a phantom center and it works great for me. I can adjust the phantom center higher or lower and stereo sound is great. I did buy a copy of "This Island Earth" it sounds and looks great. I'm old enough to have been around when "This Island Earth" was a new movie and I can't remember too much about the sound or the picture ratio. I do know I saw in Wildwood, NJ at one of the broadwalk movie theaters. All my 3 track stereo 3D movies sound wonderful on this old system and it fits in my bedroom, that is why I still use it.

    Thank you Bob for another great release.
    Dan Oldrati

  71. Danoldrati

    Hi
    I have a phantom center and it works great for me. I can adjust the phantom center higher or lower and stereo sound is great. I did buy a copy of "This Island Earth" it sounds and looks great. I'm old enough to have been around when "This Island Earth" was a new movie and I can't remember too much about the sound or the picture ratio. I do know I saw in Wildwood, NJ at one of the broadwalk movie theaters. All my 3 track stereo 3D movies sound wonderful on this old system and it fits in my bedroom, that is why I still use it.

    Thank you Bob for another great release.
    Dan Oldrati

    Thanks for that Dan, much appreciated!

  72. Dick

    That sounds pretty cool, Bob. I've never seen any of these cut-downs looking good at all on DVD or Blu-ray, but perhaps you have a way of making them look reasonably sharp. In any case, it's fun to have them. In spite of the work involved and low monetary compensation, you must be having a helluva great time with all your projects, and all the power to you! One hour's worth of these would be about 7 titles. Have you 14, to fill out the disc? 🙂

    Yes indeed, we’re having fun! If we were in it for the money, we’d be sorely disappointed.

    War of the Planets was not a very good looking Castle release. I suspect it’s because they were working from a color positive master but even the 16mm print looks rather grainy. The current project will include eight black and White Castle releases from black-and-white features and the original 16mm prints look spectacular!

  73. Hooray to Bob and all involved in finally bringing this film to the stellar presentation it deserves. I never saw it in the theater (was a baby), never watched the blasphemous MST3K version (too busy with career), and had only seen and loved it on a tube television presentation back in the 60s (bring on the monster).

    Seeing it in full HD with good sound was not just a nostalgic time travel trip, but a celebration of all the elements and excitement that originally even justified its creation for a science fiction hungry nation (but apparently not that hungry). The documentary was very well done and illuminated the process for those of us unschooled in its background. Stiff actors with great voices, but the emphasis was on the visual spectacle. We get it. Oh, would I have loved to had a crack at fine-tuning the dialogue to attract top actors of the day. I guess Forbidden Planet took another step in that direction (Walter Pigeon, at least).

    But this film is still a milestone and a memory worth restoring to our temple-challenged cranium banks. Thanks again!

  74. I just watched the MST3K version today, after watching the new Blu ray of the standard version a couple of times. I would not bother with the MST3K version. I only had one laugh and two smiles during the entire thing.

  75. TJPC

    I just watched the MST3K version today, after watching the new Blu ray of the standard version a couple of times. I would not bother with the MST3K version. I only had one laugh and two smiles during the entire thing.

    I saw this in a theater. Because the original film is so good, it seemed an odd choice for MST3K, since the latter had always gone with awful movies for its t.v. show. But I admit, it cracked me up. I disliked the interstitials because they absorbed so much of the already too-brief running time and are really not very funny but lines like, "If your hands were made of metal, that would mean something…" had me roaring. I'll still watch it once in a while. Incidentally, the 48-minute documentary on the new Shout! release is an expanded version of the 36-minute extra on the MST3K Blu-ray. And it is pretty decent.

  76. I was really impressed with this release. I'd never seen it look "good" as it was usually a bad copy on a UHF station or the MST3K commentary. I really enjoy this film. It and Forbidden Planet are two of my favorite 1950's sci fi films. I love the black lit (I presume) shots on Metaluna HQ. I also enjoy the shots with the "mutant". This is the first time I can recall actually being able to see the Zagon ships, usually it just looked like meteorites with some fuzzy image in front of them. Bravo!

  77. TJPC

    I just watched the MST3K version today, after watching the new Blu ray of the standard version a couple of times. I would not bother with the MST3K version. I only had one laugh and two smiles during the entire thing.

    Wow…how could you watch a parody of the movie and think that you were actually watching the movie???

  78. John Sparks

    Wow…how could you watch a parody of the movie and think that you were actually watching the movie???

    Personally, I've always thought MST3K wasn't the least bit funny or clever, and an utter waste of time.

  79. RobertR

    Personally, I've always thought MST3K wasn't the least bit funny or clever, and an utter waste of time.

    Amen! I've tried watching them a few times but about 10 minutes is all I can take. If I'm going to watch a "bad" movie, I certainly don't need their juvenile smugness chattering away for the entire film.

  80. John Sparks

    Wow…how could you watch a parody of the movie and think that you were actually watching the movie???

    What in the world do you mean? I never said that at all!

  81. Dick

    I saw this in a theater. Because the original film is so good, it seemed an odd choice for MST3K, since the latter had always gone with awful movies for its t.v. show.

    I've always figured that they needed a better movie to hang a theatrical feature on. Imagine trying to keep a (hopefully) mainstream audience's attention with a Coleman Francis movie or I Accuse My Parents or The Brute Man?

  82. That’s pretty much the long and short of it. They didn’t want to do THIS ISLAND EARTH, but the studio wanted a “big” film for fodder. The movie flopped big time, anyway—it got dumped in Gramercy Pictures’ lap, who didn’t know what to do with it. I remember it was on cable in mere months, which in those days meant they needed to recoup money.

  83. Jack Theakston

    That’s pretty much the long and short of it. They didn’t want to do THIS ISLAND EARTH, but the studio wanted a “big” film for fodder. The movie flopped big time, anyway—it got dumped in Gramercy Pictures’ lap, who didn’t know what to do with it. I remember it was on cable in mere months, which in those days meant they needed to recoup money.

    Didn't cable come around in the 80's? I think I should have seen it during the 60's matinees on those Saturdays. Funny, I don't remember TIE, but I do remember FORBIDDEN PLANET. Even then the rumor about FP was Anne Francis had a swim suit on in the kiddee version, but not in the adult version!.

    Gawd, to be young again. 1962, going to the theater myself and seeing DR. NO. Ursula Andress coming onto the beach was heaven for this 12 year old….and they let me in the theater!

  84. John Sparks

    Didn't cable come around in the 80's?

    Gramercy Pictures didn't exist in the 1950s either. I'm pretty sure Jack was talking about Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie (1996)

  85. Mark-P

    Gramercy Pictures didn't exist in the 1950s either. I'm pretty sure Jack was talking about Mystery Science Theater 3000: The Movie (1996)

    That is correct. I meant to quote the previous post, but it didn’t take for some reason.

    And for what it’s worth, cable TV goes back to the 1950s in North America! It didn’t get its legs until the 1970s, when HBO was formed.

  86. Bob Furmanek

    For those wondering about subtle differences in the mono track; the mix is different.

    Compare the scene at the dinner table when they are listening to Mozart. The music is very prominent in the mono mix and at the appropriate level – as quiet background music for dining – in the Perspecta mix.

    Just a reminder…

    [​IMG]

    I haven't had time to watch the actual film yet (but hope to do so this weekend). But, I had a little time before bed to peruse the extras last night. It was interesting to read that Robert Fine had a hand in developing Perspecta. And, it was quite a coincidence because earlier in the evening I'd been listening to a Mercury Living Presence SACD which was produced by his wife, Wilma Cozart Fine.

    It's interesting that they were both involved in multi-channel audio protocols in the 1950s.

    I have several of her recordings on SACD and was familiar with her name, but don't think I ever knew about Robert.

  87. Thomas T

    Amen! I've tried watching them a few times but about 10 minutes is all I can take. If I'm going to watch a "bad" movie, I certainly don't need their juvenile smugness chattering away for the entire film.

    There is simply a particular kind of sense of humor (which obviously many of us share) that delights in goofy stuff like this show, especially when the movies they mock are really, really bad. Some people think the Joel/Mike interstitials are better than the movie commentaries. I disagree with that and think they suck out too much of the film's running time and have insufferable secondary characters. But there are some zingers on most of these shows that have me laughing hard, and out loud. There are scores of often obscure cultural references here in every show that many viewers (especially younger ones) won't get at all, and I appreciate that some intelligence and research has gone into the writing. Can't find too many popular contemporary sitcoms or so-called "comedy" movies that can claim that.

  88. Dick

    There is simply a particular kind of sense of humor (which obviously many of us share) that delights in goofy stuff like this show, especially when the movies they mock are really, really bad. Some people think the Joel/Mike interstitials are better than the movie commentaries. I disagree with that and think they suck out too much of the film's running time and have insufferable secondary characters. But there are some zingers on most of these shows that have me laughing hard, and out loud. There are scores of often obscure cultural references here in every show that many viewers (especially younger ones) won't get at all, and I appreciate that some intelligence and research has gone into the writing. Can't find too many popular contemporary sitcoms or so-called "comedy" movies that can claim that.

    I understand why some people hate MST3K but the show introduced me (and I'd be willing to bet many others) to alot of these movies that I now legitimately enjoy in their original form too.

  89. Dick

    Some people think the Joel/Mike interstitials are better than the movie commentaries. I disagree with that and think they suck out too much of the film's running time and have insufferable secondary characters.

    I have seen my share of MST3K features but I've pretty much never watched the interstitials – I would fast forward through them then when I'd tape an episode off TV, and I'll fast forward through them now when I watch them on DVD. I appreciate that some people enjoy them and would never suggest that they be removed, but for me, I was there for the movie commentary and not their fake plot or characters.

  90. Josh Steinberg

    I have seen my share of MST3K features but I've pretty much never watched the interstitials – I would fast forward through them then when I'd tape an episode off TV, and I'll fast forward through them now when I watch them on DVD. I appreciate that some people enjoy them and would never suggest that they be removed, but for me, I was there for the movie commentary and not their fake plot or characters.

    A lot of the interstitials are gems though – Patrick Swayze Christmas being my favorite.

  91. I finally watched the feature last night and today. The video and audio quality are beautiful, as others have noted.

    Thanks to Bob & Team for restoring the Perspecta track. However, I must admit that I prefer the 2.0. I tried the Perspecta last night and again today. Admittedly, my room is problematic, and tweaking would probably help. But, the shifting of dialogue from the center to left and right, even within a single shot, was very distracting. I found the 2.0 track much more enjoyable.

  92. Doug Otte

    I finally watched the feature last night and today. The video and audio quality are beautiful, as others have noted.

    Thanks to Bob & Team for restoring the Perspecta track. However, I must admit that I prefer the 2.0. I tried the Perspecta last night and again today. Admittedly, my room is problematic, and tweaking would probably help. But, the shifting of dialogue from the center to left and right, even within a single shot, was very distracting. I found the 2.0 track much more enjoyable.

    Over the weekend, I ran the Audyssey software again on my receiver to reset the speaker settings. Over the years, I had manually played around with the settings to fix specific "issues" I heard. Well, that managed to muck everything up.

    After I reset everything, things sounded much better. So, I tried the Perspecta track again. Although it is a little distracting with the extreme panning of dialogue from left, to center, to right, it does sound more harmonious and euphonic. There's a word you don't hear every day!

  93. So I've been trying to avoid blind buys this year, but I made an exception for this because a) this is a movie I've heard about for years and wanted to see in the best possible quality and b) I'm a sucker for antique formats like Perspecta.

    I thought the movie was tremendously entertaining and I had a great time watching it. And the soundtrack was so much fun. The sound panning worked beautifully with my home theater setup and was a great treat.

    Definitely one of my better blind buys!

  94. Josh Steinberg

    So I've been trying to avoid blind buys this year, but I made an exception for this because a) this is a movie I've heard about for years and wanted to see in the best possible quality and b) I'm a sucker for antique formats like Perspecta.

    I thought the movie was tremendously entertaining and I had a great time watching it. And the soundtrack was so much fun. The sound panning worked beautifully with my home theater setup and was a great treat.

    Definitely one of my better blind buys!

    Of course, for members of my vintage, we all owned the Super 8 "War of the Planets." It was a little weird watching it again as an extra.

  95. Regarding WAR OF THE PLANETS…..I had the much later Super 8mm magnetic sound 18 minute digest (called THIS ISLAND EARTH) that was in color. I suspect they couldn't include that because, like my print, they've all faded to pink/magenta by this time.

  96. J. Casey

    Regarding WAR OF THE PLANETS…..I had the much later Super 8mm magnetic sound 18 minute digest (called THIS ISLAND EARTH) that was in color. I suspect they couldn't include that because, like my print, they've all faded to pink/magenta by this time.

    No, I had the silent black & white, which I used to drive my parents crazy by adding my own vocal sound effects, having been unduly influenced by Johnathan Winters albums.

  97. Josh Steinberg

    So I've been trying to avoid blind buys this year, but I made an exception for this because a) this is a movie I've heard about for years and wanted to see in the best possible quality and b) I'm a sucker for antique formats like Perspecta.

    I thought the movie was tremendously entertaining and I had a great time watching it. And the soundtrack was so much fun. The sound panning worked beautifully with my home theater setup and was a great treat.

    Definitely one of my better blind buys!

    I'm looking forward to watching this and other Perspecta sound titles. My three front speakers are under the image from the projector so it sounds fine for directional dialog.

  98. lark144

    No, I had the silent black & white, which I used to drive my parents crazy by adding my own vocal sound effects, having been unduly influenced by Johnathan Winters albums.

    You recorded that for posterity, of course. I’d listen. 🙂

  99. Johnny Angell

    You recorded that for posterity, of course. I’d listen. 🙂

    No, but I can still give a pretty good impersonation.

    The funny thing is, I was about a year or two too young, so I missed THIS ISLAND EARTH when it played in theaters. WAR OF THE PLANETS in super 8 silent was my first exposure to it. And watching the Blu-last week, I was surprised to find my vocal approximation of the flying saucer at the tender age of six–woop! woop! woooooow woooooow bing!, to be specific–was almost exactly the sound effect that was used in the film. So I guess juvenile minds think alike!

  100. lark144

    No, but I can still give a pretty good impersonation.

    The funny thing is, I was about a year or two too young, so I missed THIS ISLAND EARTH when it played in theaters. WAR OF THE PLANETS in super 8 silent was my first exposure to it. And watching the Blu-last week, I was surprised to find my vocal approximation of the flying saucer at the tender age of six–woop! woop! woooooow woooooow bing!, to be specific–was almost exactly the sound effect that was used in the film. So I guess juvenile minds think alike!

    I wish Jonathan Winters had participated in the MST3K sendup of the film.

  101. Johnny Angell

    I wish Jonathan Winters had participated in the MST3K sendup of the film.

    My second grade teacher brought in his collection of Jonathan Winters LPS at Xmastime, & I was very inspired by the sketch where a mad scientist creates a seven foot tall artificial basketball player named, if my memory is accurate, Igor. I especially recall the sounds of basketball dribbles interspersed with space-age whoops and bleeps. Hearing that record changed my life.

  102. lark144

    My second grade teacher brought in his collection of Jonathan Winters LPS at Xmastime, & I was very inspired by the sketch where a mad scientist creates a seven foot tall artificial basketball player named, if my memory is accurate, Igor. I especially recall the sounds of basketball dribbles interspersed with space-age whoops and bleeps. Hearing that record changed my life.

    I’ve not heard that bit.

  103. I made this a blind purchase and was very happy with it. Pretty nifty FX for the era, and the sound was nice, though I seemed to have a hard time getting the sound as loud as Bob had suggested. On my system, I generally run most movies around -35 or so. I pushed this one up to -22 to -20 and still didn't seem very loud. Maybe I need to make other adjustments. The directional Perspecta sound was nice, though at times it seemed a bit random with action/dialogue centered on the screen with sound coming from the left.

    But overall another nice blind buy, and it made a super double-feature with The Monolith Monsters.

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