Suspiria blu-ray from Synapse

The film looks and sounds PHENOMENAL. 4 Stars

Per Synapse’s FB page.

SYNAPSE FILMS, INC. LICENSES “SUSPIRIA”, ONE OF THE MOST ACCLAIMED HORROR FILMS OF ALL TIME, FOR DVD, BLU-RAY AND FUTURE OPTICAL MEDIA.ROMULUS, MI – Synapse Films, Inc. has acquired the North American home-video rights to the 1977 classic horror film SUSPIRIA, directed by Italian horror master Dario Argento. Described as “one of the scariest films of all time” by Entertainment Weekly, SUSPIRIA stars the beautiful Jessica Harper as a young girl caught up in a coven of witches controlling a German dance academy.“I’ve been involved in the restoration and release of many films in my career, but SUSPIRIA has always eluded me, until now,” says Donald May, Jr., President of Synapse Films. “It’s one of my favorite horror films and I’m ecstatic that my business partner, Jerry Chandler, was able to negotiate with the rights holders to release this film. This is going to be an amazing project for us.”Synapse Films, Inc. will work closely with Technicolor Rome and Technicolor Los Angeles to create an all-new high-definition 2K scan from the original negative for a possible 2014-15 video release. “It’s important to spend as much time as possible to create the definitive high-definition home video version for the fans,” May explains. “We’re going to take our time with this one.”Synapse Films, Inc. is currently planning the extensive work on SUSPIRIA in conjunction with Technicolor, utilizing both their Rome and Hollywood facilities. The film scanning will be coordinated and supervised by Technicolor Hollywood’s Director of Restoration Services, Tom Burton, whose film restoration credits include Ridley Scott’s BLADE RUNNER, Georges Méliès’ A TRIP TO THE MOON and BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY’S.Final specifications, retail pricing, and extras for the Synapse Films release of SUSPIRIA will be announced closer to the as yet to be determined release date.

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  1. Superb! Suspiria is a film that desperately needs a new transfer, the current one doing the rounds is utterly hideous. Synapse had hinted they were preparing a disc of Argento's OPERA, so I had assumed that was their big aquisition. It's nice to find out I'm wrong.

  2. 2 thoughts:1. "Future optical media?"2. Reading about all the work they have to do between Rome and Hollywood, I'm glad that a "smaller" title like Suspiria could still sell enough on blu to justify the cost. Maybe this isn't the twilight time for the format after all…

  3. Michael Elliott

    I wonder If they could get Fox to give up the American version to be included. I watched this a few years back and it's certainly interesting see all the alternate cuts that were done.

    They could easily cut together a submaster matching the American version on their own, the only bit of "new" footage they'd need to scan would be the alternate American "breathing" main title. Actually, an HD master of the American version already exists. It's aired a few times in HD over the past couple years, and an SD downconversion of it was available for streaming on Netflix fo a brief time.

    Vincent

  4. Great news. I have the UK BD, but I'm sure this will be 100x better.

    As a side note, Calum Waddell tweeted that his production company is working on supplements for Argento's TENEBRE, also coming on BD from Synapse. I've always thought of this as Argento's best film, so I'm looking forward to this even more than SUSPIRIA. The current Arrow BD of TENEBRE is absolutely hideous. My old non-anamorphic Anchor Bay DVD looks better!

  5. This is great news.

    I'm just going to be a little bit of a Victor Meldrew for a moment – why so long?

    2014-2015 ? If this is a film they've been dying to get their hands on for years, will it really take them over a year to put out?

    I certainly agree that these things shouldn't be rushed, but a possible wait until 2015 seems a tad excessive.

    Steve W

  6. Yorkshire

    This is great news.

    I'm just going to be a little bit of a Victor Meldrew for a moment – why so long?

    2014-2015 ? If this is a film they've been dying to get their hands on for years, will it really take them over a year to put out?

    I certainly agree that these things shouldn't be rushed, but a possible wait until 2015 seems a tad excessive.

    Steve W

    Don said they are going to start on this after the Holidays and since Synapse is a two man operation, I don't think that an estimated release of late 2014 or early 2015 is unexpected or excessive. (Don't forget that they have other titles they are working on)

  7. DP 70

    It should have a 4K scan and original 4-track Magnetic sound track not a 5.1remix.

    I agree on the 4-track, but 4K scanning is expensive and Synapse is a small company. You do what you can within the confines of your budget. Many Criterion releases have been 2K scans and look gorgeous. In a perfect world, all 35mm productions would be 4K scans and large format either 6K or 8K.

  8. I'm also hoping for the original 4 track sound and it would be great if one of you would send it to me from the USA because i understand it's hard to find a supplier of Synapse released blu rays who will ship outside the country.

  9. "We’re going to take our time with this one.”I really like the sound of that. I've at least two Suspiria DVD's already so guys: No hurry. Just make a great transfer, several audio options and good extras.

  10. FoxyMulder

    I'm also hoping for the original 4 track sound and it would be great if one of you would send it to me from the USA because i understand it's hard to find a supplier of Synapse released blu rays who will ship outside the country.

    http://www.diabolikdvd.com

    They will almost certainly carry it, and they mark down to avoid customs as well! I've been very happy with all my orders from them.

    You can preorder the Synapse Demons Steelbooks from them right now; they've only marked them up $1 more than they cost on the Synapse site.

  11. Most Synapse titles are carried by Amazon and other on-line retailers who ship overseas, as well. There are only a few titles that are limited to direct-sale from Synapse themselves.

    Re: the original 4-channel mix, obviously Synapse will include that track, provided they can find/are given access to the elements for it.

    Vincent

  12. This is incredible news! If it's got correct colors and correct four-track stereo soundtrack, I'm in. As for extras, if they could somehow license and port over all the old Anchor Bay stuff from the three-disc edition, that would be fantastic. But I'd be happy with just proper A/V.

  13. Vincent_P

    Most Synapse titles are carried by Amazon and other on-line retailers who ship overseas, as well. There are only a few titles that are limited to direct-sale from Synapse themselves.

    Yes, I should have said the vast majority of Synapse titles are normal retail products that can be found at all the usual places for U.K. importers: Amazon, importcds etc. It's only the Demons films that have been difficult for importers, because Synapse are only selling them through their site, and they do not provide international delivery. This is were Diabolik DVD comes in. Of course, no one knows right now if Suspiria will be a normal release or an expensive Synapse exclusive thing, but either way, having a friend in the U.S. buy it for you shouldn't be necessary.

  14. Scanned to 4K now. So project is moving…"Right now, my goal is to analyze the 4K scan files, get them QC'd, assembled, base corrected and see how much restoration may be necessary on the neg, since it hasn't really been touched in a while. Technicolor was pleased with the results, but I have to have a look myself as soon as possible… I'm excited to get started.""Scanning the original SUSPIRIA camera negative in 4K came out to around 12TB of data… And we have to make sure we have it backed up (more than a FEW times)."https://m.facebook.com/193094600718553/photos/a.223878337640179.72639.193094600718553/880006742027332/?type=1&source=46&refid=17

  15. So good to see more movement on this. It is, by far, one of my most-anticipated upcoming releases. The color on the Synapse shots is dramatically different from the German BD. Skin tones are definitely more natural and color saturation is off the charts. It will be interesting to see how everything looks in motion. Here's hoping they're able to stick to their 2017 release. From the amount of time and effort that has been spent on this, nobody can ever accuse Don May of not loving the film.

  16. I remember when I picked up the limited 3-disc Anchor Bay DVD years ago. I had no idea what it was, never heard of Dario Argento, but I did notice the packaging effort that included a soundtrack CD. I circled it for few weeks, then pulled the trigger. Aside from the description, I had NO IDEA what was to come. Cut to me watching it and MIND BLOWN.

  17. Jonathan Perregaux

    I remember when I picked up the limited 3-disc Anchor Bay DVD years ago. I had no idea what it was, never heard of Dario Argento, but I did notice the packaging effort that included a soundtrack CD. I circled it for few weeks, then pulled the trigger. Aside from the description, I had NO IDEA what was to come. Cut to me watching it and MIND BLOWN.

    I know what you mean as I have that release as part of my prized DVD releases 🙂

    Regards,

  18. TravisR

    As much as I've enjoyed watching it, I can't wait to be able to sell off the three disc DVD set.

    I sold my set when news of a restored BD first came out. It's been about four years now, and I am dying to see Suspiria again. It was the film that introduced me to Argento's horror flicks, and I instantly became a big fan. If I can get this movie and Opera on BD, I will be a very happy fan.

  19. I had completely forgotten that Synapse had done a special edition of Phenomena as I had ordered Tenebrae from them early expecting it to sell out. When I realized the Phenomena disc was already released I expected not to be able to get it as it is a limited edition 3000 run…and these horror titles generally go quick. Went to their website and Phenomena was still available. So, that's now on the way and I can check that out as I wait for Suspiria to become available.

  20. Robert Harris

    Having seen running footage, derived from the Synapse 4k scans of the OCN, I can tell you that fans are in for a treat.

    I really can not wait for this release from Synapse. Just wondering how much it will be, i live in the UK and what with import duty etc it can put it out of my reach.:(

  21. Reggie W

    I had completely forgotten that Synapse had done a special edition of Phenomena as I had ordered Tenebrae from them early expecting it to sell out. When I realized the Phenomena disc was already released I expected not to be able to get it as it is a limited edition 3000 run…and these horror titles generally go quick. Went to their website and Phenomena was still available. So, that's now on the way and I can check that out as I wait for Suspiria to become available.

    I had never seen the U.S. cut (Creepers) and was surprised to see that it made some smart editing choices that help the movie. Of course, there's other stuff cut that guts the movie so you want to go with one of the longer cuts.

  22. tele1962

    I really can not wait for this release from Synapse. Just wondering how much it will be, i live in the UK and what with import duty etc it can put it out of my reach.:(

    I don't know if it'll be the case with Suspiria but Synapse uses Diabolik DVD to handle their international orders. Diabolik is charging $21 to ship Synapse's Popcorn steelbook release to the UK. I'd guess that that's a decent estimate of what it'll cost to ship Suspiria.

    http://www.diabolikdvd.com

  23. I just caught up with watching Phenomena. The picture looked very good and the soundtrack was just booming out that Iron Maiden (my favorite band). I wonder what Goblin thought of being supplanted by Maiden? The process shots were a bit dodgy, as one might expect, and a bit grainy in low-light scenes, but no biggie. I enjoyed it.

    Jennifer Connolly looked like an angel. She managed to hold her own against maggots, a monkey, and Donald Pleasance. What more can you say really?

  24. Surely this release is not far off now, anyone got any news? I do know there is an Italian release out now and a German one in the next few weeks but from what i have seen the the Synapse is the one to go for IMO.

  25. TravisR

    The comments came back when I posted that link. 🙂

    I didn't say anything before but Synapse's caps look great to my untrained eye.

    Sorry Travis missed your link. Strange that some are still defending the Italian release and the German restoration on other forums when IMO they are clearly wrong.

  26. tele1962

    Sorry Travis missed your link. Strange that some are still defending the Italian release and the German restoration on other forums when IMO they are clearly wrong.

    Yeah, I'm no authority on what Suspiria should look like but Synapse's work certainly looks more correct and pleasing to me.

  27. Been reading on another forum the frankly ridiculous observations some are making in trying to compare the Italian release and saying that is how it should look (as it is derived from the German restoration which is IMO equally flawed). :wacko:

  28. People are so ignorant when it comes to color – clearly the Synapse has correct color – it's beautiful in those images and sorry I don't think every item in a room should be green, do you? The big question is, this thread was begun four YEARS ago – how can it take this long to do something like this? It baffles me. 🙂

  29. haineshisway

    People are so ignorant when it comes to color – clearly the Synapse has correct color – it's beautiful in those images and sorry I don't think every item in a room should be green, do you? The big question is, this thread was begun four YEARS ago – how can it take this long to do something like this? It baffles me. 🙂

    At last we agree.;)

  30. haineshisway

    The big question is, this thread was begun four YEARS ago – how can it take this long to do something like this? It baffles me. 🙂

    When the caps were posted last week. it reminded me how long it had been since I saw a Synapse ad in Fangoria or Horror Hound announcing some of their Argento titles. That being said, I think the delay is due to them working on Tenebrae and Phenomena first. And at $45 a movie, they probably don't want to release any more than one Argento movie a year so maybe they decided to just hold back on Suspiria for its 40th anniversary?

  31. Both Tenebrae and Phenomena from Synapse have been really great and so it will be day one pre-order as soon as possible for Suspiria. I have deliberately held off buying any hi def version as I knew this was coming from Synapse whose commitment to quality presentations to these was in doubt in my mind.

    Regards,

  32. I own Synapse's release of Tenabrae, but did not pick up Phenomena. It's probably my least favorite of the popular Argento horror films, so I couldn't justify spending $45 for that title. Hopefully it comes out in a less expensive package later.

    I will be ordering Suspiria once it's available, though. I've been looking forward to a quality HD release for a long time.

  33. I have seen some mindless posts in my time on Bluray.Com regarding releases but the Synapse thread over there is full of some of the worst BS i have read in a long time regarding this release. I honestly feel sorry for the Guys at Synapse and their one guy who posting on there and being attacked from all angles when trying to defend their release….

    http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=230401&page=137

    What a complete bunch of jerks.

  34. tele1962

    I have seen some mindless posts in my time on Bluray.Com regarding releases but the Synapse thread over there is full of some of the worst BS i have read in a long time regarding this release. I honestly feel sorry for the Guys at Synapse and their one guy who posting on there and being attacked from all angles when trying to defend their release….

    http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=230401&page=137

    What a complete bunch of jerks.

    I'm sure there's plenty of good folks at blu-ray.com but the creeps make it so I stay away from there. That being said, Vincent periodically posts here at HTF and he doesn't seem like he takes a lot of shit so I imagine he's either ignoring the dopes or he's really getting into it with people there.

  35. TravisR

    I'm sure there's plenty of good folks at blu-ray.com but the creeps make it so I stay away from there. That being said, Vincent periodically posts here at HTF and he doesn't seem like he takes a lot of shit so I imagine he's either ignoring the dopes or he's really getting into it with people there.

    It's Christian Muth who has been up against the flack for ages now from a few clueless individuals. But he has held his own.

  36. Another hilarious thread – leading the usual charge is "Pecker" who does what he used to do here – demands an answer from Synapse as if they owe him or anyone else any answers. Entitled much, Pecker? And so many experts over there. As to Mr. Kaiser, I've certainly had my differences with him and I find him very defensive in the worst way. And everyone is talking about all these dye transfer prints – none of which, obviously, came from the United States since the final dye transfer prints here were done in 1974. So, who knows how those prints were done overseas and how careful the quality control was – even Europe was nearing the end of dye transfer printing by that time. Suspiria is a little intense for me as a watching experience, and certainly a little too violent for me, although I haven't seen it since the late 1970s so it's probably tamer now than it was then.

  37. bigshot

    I love it when people talk about the commenters, not the topic of the thread. It lets you know that there isn't much worthwhile to be said.

    You forgot to add " in your opinion " as i think the comments are very interesting.

    Like this one guy who has just posted about not knowing who Robert Harris is then being shown his credentials, only to reply " i supose he is reliable but has only worked on six films, and how would he know what Susperia is supposed to look like "……………….:eek:

  38. Steen DK

    Yeah, all those other people are so stupid. We're all so smart. This is the only worthwhile place on the internet.

    I take it that was an attempt at sarcasm (not very well done to be honest). The facts have been pointed out to those posting over there on quite a few occasions, but still they will not or do not want to accept them, instead using there own expert knowlege of film restoration to bring into question those who might be actually involved in this version and experts who have seen it………….and will go out of their way to do so, simply because of their subjective opinion (and purchase validation of a sub par release). Some are saying i have watched my Italian release three times……well go on ya pal………..just goes to show you know sweet FA about what makes up a good restoration.

  39. Oh, I think it's totally awesome that you guys spend time talking about other forums and arm-chair experts like Torsten Kaiser (who does that guy think he is?). And all those stupid screen-shot scientists over at THAT FORUM. Damn, they're so stupid.

    Hey, have you guys seen those screen-shots from Synapse's Suspiria? Man, they sure look great. Much better than the screen-shots from the Italian BD.

  40. Steen DK

    Oh, I think it's totally awesome that you guys spend time talking about other forums and arm-chair experts like Torsten Kaiser (who does that guy think he is?). And all those stupid screen-shot scientists over at THAT FORUM. Damn, they're so stupid.

    Hey, have you guys seen those screen-shots from Synapse's Suspiria? Man, they sure look great. Much better than the screen-shots from the Italian BD.

    Neh we seen the Italian screenshots, they are not what Suspiria is supposed to look like as confirmed by the best in the business and if you do your research… Dario Argento……….the director.

    PS
    But hey who are we to argue………..if they used blue lighting in a scene and someone turns it Green because that is how it is supposed to look why should we even question it?

  41. Steen DK

    Robert Harris, I take it?

    Technicolor (who might know a thing or two), Synapse and quite a few others also, why ………do you need more confirmation or might that do for now?

    PS
    But wait we do not have the Synapse release yet, only screen grabs?

  42. Steen DK

    So a Technicolor representative came out in support of Synapse's screen-shots? I missed that one.

    No, Technicolour are working (have worked) with Synapse on the restoration…..you might have missed that although that fact was mentioned on Bluray.Com, but got buried under all the BS?

    Robert Harris, said we are in for a treat, why would i doubt that?

  43. tele1962

    No, Technicolour are working (have worked) with Synapse on the restoration…..you might have missed that although that fact was mentioned on Bluray.Com, but got buried under all the BS?

    Robert Harris, said we are in for a treat, why would i doubt that?

    And Torsten Kaiser is working with the owners of the film. I guess we're at an impasse.

    Why should you doubt Harris? Well, he thought the HD-DVD of Elizabeth looked fantastic, and later he told us that the BD was horribly filtered… But the two are identical. So I guess he's not flawless. Though I realise it's the opinion of this forum that he is.

  44. Steen DK

    And Torsten Kaiser is working with the owners of the film. I guess we're at an impasse.

    Why should you doubt Harris? Well, he thought the HD-DVD of Elizabeth looked fantastic, and later he told us that the BD was horribly filtered… But the two are identical. So I guess he's not flawless. Though I realise it's the opinion of this forum that he is.

    I think you need to read into this a little more, as i said look at any of Dario Argento's interviews, look at the guys who invented the film stock that was used, look at the techniques for this transfer and those who have posted there thoughts on it especially those involved…….then look at the screen grabs, then can you honestly say the Torsten restoration or Italian release is correct……..and as i have said we do not even have the Synapse release yet.
    Robert is only human and i am sure like the rest of us is not infallible ( i think he got it right on the many major classics he worked on ) but by hell i will take his and others opinion over a few posters on an internet forum anyday.

    PS
    Steen, are you Torsten?

  45. Personal comments are NOT welcome on this site.

    Discussion about films and releases IS welcome here.

    So, please, let's discuss the film/release and leave the personal attacks (whether about members, experts, or anyone else) somewhere else. Direct, personal comments will not be tolerated here and anyone who continues will face action by the moderating team.

    Thank you.

  46. Steen DK

    And Torsten Kaiser is working with the owners of the film. I guess we're at an impasse.

    Why should you doubt Harris? Well, he thought the HD-DVD of Elizabeth looked fantastic, and later he told us that the BD was horribly filtered… But the two are identical. So I guess he's not flawless. Though I realise it's the opinion of this forum that he is.

    Forgotten in all of this is the important point that it is not the OWNERS of the film who asked for or paid for this new 4K scan. That was done by – wait for it – Synapse. There is a disconnect here, I believe.

  47. Who says the owners necessarily care one way or the other? Owning the rights to a film doesn't make them the creator of the film. If someone cares enough to put some extra effort into a transfer, that is a good thing in my book.

  48. Both parties involved are doing the best that they can with a well used Eastman Color negative, inclusive of footage derived from dupes.

    Both have referenced dye transfer prints.

    Synapse, as Mr. Kimmel has stated, fully financed the 4k scan, and as their work nears its completion, I've a feeling that things will get very interesting.

    They also went out of their way to locate, and access, the original stereo mix.

    There's far more going on here than meets the eye.

    With archival funds difficult to attain, two restorations were unnecessary. The situation seems to have been created by the desire to have a theatrical anniversary release, while the Synapse restoration was ongoing.

    Readers should be able to figure out further details, but from what I've been able to deduce, the problems come from neither Synapse nor Mr. Kaiser, with both doing their best to create something special.

    They should not be pitted against one another, as they are not adversaries.

  49. Robert Harris

    Readers should be able to figure out furher details, but from what I've been able to deduce, the problems come from neither Synapse nor Mr. Kaiser, with both doing their best to create something special.

    God knows I'm not one to point out typos, but, given the context, this made me laugh. (unless it was intentional, but even then, it is funny.)

  50. Derrick King

    God knows I'm not one to point out typos, but, given the context, this made me laugh. (unless it was intentional, but even then, it is funny.)

    Totally unintentional. Comes from typing on an iPad.

    For the record, I have great respect for Mr. Kaiser, and the capabilities of his company.

  51. I watched the Italian BD yesterday (instead of just looking at screen-shots which is suddenly acceptable [weird that]) and the green is definitely dominant. In some scenes it seems fine and in others… not so fine. Then, it was always a garish looking film and I'm not going to pretend that I know how it should look. I'll probably buy the Synapse edition too.

    This whole thing seems like a complete reversal of the Coppola's Dracula situation. Remember the reaction when it was first released on BD back in 2007 and people were shocked at the way it completely departed from previous versions and the way people thought it should look? Moonlight had gone from blue to green, bonfires from orange to grey, and carefully crafted special effects had become lost in darkness – and yet we were told to shut up and accept that there was no way that Kim Aubry could be wrong. In this analogy Torsten Kaiser would be Kim Aubry, I guess, but I'm certainly willing to entertain the notion that he could be wrong or that whatever answer print (or its equivalent) he's working from is flawed.

    What really bothers me is the rampant hypocrisy: A forum that pretty much always insists that screen-shots are completely useless, suddenly decides to judge two blu-rays (one of which hasn't been released) solely from screen-shots.

    PS. My opinions of the Italian BD should be taken with a grain of salt as I was preeeeeetty drunk when I watched it. But frankly, I think it's the only way to watch Suspiria. The film is a load of bollocks. Enjoyable, often beautiful, but bollocks.

  52. Robert Harris

    Totally unintentional. Comes from typing on an iPad.

    For the record, I have great respect for Mr. Kaiser, and the capabilities of his company.

    An earned respect, no doubt.

    It struck me funny, in large part, do the location of the film and, in particular, the shooting location of the deserted square (Königsplatz) and its history of being used as a location for rallies by the Nazis (unless I'm mistaken, one reason Argento selected the location.)

  53. Vincent_P

    The sound work we have been doing on this is insane. The fidelity of the original mag masters is just out of this world, transferred in 96/24 no less.

    Vincent

    This is the first use of the original masters in decades, is it not?

  54. Jim*Tod

    So will this only be available from Synapse directly or will Amazon be selling it as well?

    The steel book with the two blu-rays and CD that Travis linked to will only be available through Synapse until it sells out…and a horror title this popular with only 6000 available is likely to sell out fairly quickly even at $50.00. After the steel book is gone, I believe based on how Synapse has handled their other releases like this, they will release a regular version in a normal blu-ray case without the CD and possibly without some of the other goodies on this limited edition that they will make available on Amazon.

    If you want the steel book though with all the stuff it is a limited edition sold only through Synapse.

  55. Reggie W

    After the steel book is gone, I believe based on how Synapse has handled their other releases like this, they will release a regular version in a normal blu-ray case without the CD and possibly without some of the other goodies on this limited edition that they will make available on Amazon.

    Also, anyone holding off for the standard release will probably have to wait until about this time next year.

    And here's a earlier post in this thread from August 15, 2014:

    TravisR

    ^ I know I'm basing this just on talk but it sounds like they're going to do a GREAT job with this release. Now we just have to wait a year or so until it comes out.

    Or three years. 🙂

  56. Jonathan Perregaux

    Done! And finally!

    Shoot, mis-typed my E-mail address when I ordered. Guess it'll be a surprise when it ships then.

    Well, Synapse doesn't send shipping notices, so either way it'll be a surprise.

    Got my pre-order in this morning, so I'm tapped out 'til October. :mellow:

  57. The extras don't seem to need a whole separate blu-ray. I'm guessing the bare bones version will just be a dual layer disc with everything on it. They're probably maxing out the bitrate for the feature with this special edition.

  58. Reggie W

    The steel book with the two blu-rays and CD that Travis linked to will only be available through Synapse until it sells out…and a horror title this popular with only 6000 available is likely to sell out fairly quickly even at $50.00. After the steel book is gone, I believe based on how Synapse has handled their other releases like this, they will release a regular version in a normal blu-ray case without the CD and possibly without some of the other goodies on this limited edition that they will make available on Amazon.

    If you want the steel book though with all the stuff it is a limited edition sold only through Synapse.

    Thanks….. I went ahead and ordered it…. the most expensive blu ray I have ever had. At least I know I am supporting a quality effort of restoration. Now if only we could get a screening in a theater here in Richmond, VA…. not bloody likely.

  59. Hopefully it doesn't end up being like their Demons release, where only the steelbook had the supplements.

    I've been waiting for this for so long. It's just my luck that pre-orders go up at a time when I'm between jobs and won't be able to get it. First world problems, I know.

  60. Brian Kidd

    I've been waiting for this for so long. It's just my luck that pre-orders go up at a time when I'm between jobs and won't be able to get it.

    All of their other steelbooks are still available (though you have to call them directly for Tenebre because the quantity is very low) so with double the amount of copies, I think you'll have a pretty good window of time to buy the Suspiria steelbook.

  61. bigshot

    The extras don't seem to need a whole separate blu-ray. I'm guessing the bare bones version will just be a dual layer disc with everything on it. They're probably maxing out the bitrate for the feature with this special edition.

    The extras amount to over 90-minutes, all in HD, and the 4-channel track on the feature will be 96/24 resolution which eats up a lot of space. And potential "bare bones" version will NOT be a single disc with everything crammed onto it.

    Vincent

  62. Vincent_P

    The extras amount to over 90-minutes, all in HD, and the 4-channel track on the feature will be 96/24 resolution which eats up a lot of space. And potential "bare bones" version will NOT be a single disc with everything crammed onto it.

    Vincent

    I believe this is the second 96/24 from Synapse.

    I'm only aware of a handful.

  63. Robert Harris

    I believe this is the second 96/24 from Synapse.

    I'm only aware of a handful.

    Prom Night is the other one. Sounds great too. Don May jr. said on the Shock Waves podcast that he was expecting at least a little praise for going the extra mile on this and got nothing. This is something usually reserved for concerts.

  64. The 96/24 4-channel track on SUSPIRIA really is a revelation. There are all sorts of little details and nuances to the soundtrack that I'd never noticed before that come through crystal-clear here, not to mention the surround mix itself which is a doozy.

    Vincent

  65. Dwayne

    Any word on when this will ship?

    The other day on Facebook, Synapse said that

    There is currently no release date to announce, but we can tell you that we've experienced no delays in production so we expect SUSPIRIA to be released before year's end, as previously stated. In keeping with Synapse policy we won't announce a release date until everything is 100% locked in.

    So I guess it's a month or a month & a half away.

  66. The Old Ones appear to have been watching out for me. Not long after I posted that I wouldn't be able to order it because I was in-between jobs, I found a full-time position. I ordered my copy today. Though it will require some 'splainin' to my wife and the endurance of what I am sure to be an avalanche of sighs and rolled eyes, I'm certain the end product will be worth it.

    I first saw Suspiria on Christmas Day, 2001. I had been reading about how wonderful it was and about the 3-disc Anchor Bay set that was coming out (pretty sure here on the HTF) and put it on my Christmas list. I popped it in my DVD player that afternoon and was immediately overwhelmed by its visual and aural beauty and its hypnotic storytelling. Although I later heard that the original surround track put the Anchor Bay track to shame, I can't tell you how many people I've introduced to the film via that DVD who were equally transfixed by it. (Well, some of them. You can't win them all.) Although I bought the German BD and thought it looked quite lovely, I have no doubt in my mind that the folks at Synapse have made this restoration something special. You don't spend three years on a project like this unless it is work driven by love.

    I look forward to being carried away by the film yet again and, especially, to finally hearing that marvelous soundtrack as it was meant to be heard. Thank you to Vincent Pereria and Don May, Jr. for giving this classic film the attention it deserves and to Synapse as a whole for remaining one of the best home video labels in the world.

  67. Caught a screening of what was labelled as a 4K restoration and didn't come away terribly impressed. It looked pretty much the same as my old UK blu-ray – soft, no grain and massively oversaturated colours. A very digital look, not organic or film-like at all. And the sound was painfully loud and shrill, though the cinema where I saw it doesn't have the best system.

  68. Worth

    Caught a screening of what was labelled as a 4K restoration and didn't come away terribly impressed. It looked pretty much the same as my old UK blu-ray – soft, no grain and massively oversaturated colours. A very digital look, not organic or film-like at all. And the sound was painfully loud and shrill, though the cinema where I saw it doesn't have the best system.

    I'm hoping the issue is because of the theater's equipment and not because of the actual DCP. Someone with more knowledge on the subject, please correct me if I'm wrong, but the image quality of a digital projector varies according to the model and whether or not it has been properly set up. Also, sound quality will definitely vary depending on the theater's speakers and amps.

    I'd be disappointed, too, if I paid for a ticket to what was supposed to be a brand-new 4K restoration of a film like Suspiria and the theater didn't make every effort to ensure that the projection was the best it could possibly be. Sadly, many theaters these days tend to be largely automated and there is rarely a projectionist on staff who can make adjustments or fix problems.

  69. Scott Merryfield

    Finally! It's quite expensive, but I'm still in for this one.

    Well, I was made to understand there was a $6.00 shipping charge on top of a $43.99 list price = $49.99. However, when I got to check out, it wanted $17. + for shipping for a total of $67.+. That's bullshit and I won't be making a purchase.

  70. Dick

    Well, I was made to understand there was a $6.00 shipping charge on top of a $43.99 list price = $49.99. However, when I got to check out, it wanted $17. + for shipping for a total of $67.+. That's bullshit and I won't be making a purchase.

    Strange. The website indicates the $17 charge is applicable to Canada only. It's still outrageous, but you should be paying far less for shipping.

  71. Dick

    Well, I was made to understand there was a $6.00 shipping charge on top of a $43.99 list price = $49.99. However, when I got to check out, it wanted $17. + for shipping for a total of $67.+. That's bullshit and I won't be making a purchase.

    Maybe it's some kind of glitch with the site because like the other guys, I paid $6 shipping too. I'd try to order again and see if it rings up correct.

  72. Vincent_P

    The 96/24 4-channel track on SUSPIRIA really is a revelation. There are all sorts of little details and nuances to the soundtrack that I'd never noticed before that come through crystal-clear here, not to mention the surround mix itself which is a doozy.

    Vincent

    You got an advance copy?

  73. FoxyMulder

    You got an advance copy?

    He worked on the restoration. We're getting news about this one straight from the horse's mouth. 🙂

    As for the shipping, $6 really isn't expensive if you take into consideration that Synapse isn't exactly sending things out in bulk like Amazon and, if their website is accurate, they pack them with a little more care so that the steelbook packaging arrives in pristine shape. This is the first time I've ordered directly from Synapse, so perhaps someone who has more experience with that can chime in.

    From their website:

    Synapse Films personally and securely wraps/packs/insures and ships each and every Steelbook® individually with additional packing necessary to keep it safe on its way to your shipping location. We even hand deliver them ourselves to the post office.

  74. Don't quote me but I think Synapse is using a small flat rate box which I believe has a cost of just over $6. That shipping cost and the cost of the bubble wrap makes their shipping rate a fair price.

  75. Brian Kidd

    He worked on the restoration. We're getting news about this one straight from the horse's mouth. 🙂

    As for the shipping, $6 really isn't expensive if you take into consideration that Synapse isn't exactly sending things out in bulk like Amazon and, if their website is accurate, they pack them with a little more care so that the steelbook packaging arrives in pristine shape. This is the first time I've ordered directly from Synapse, so perhaps someone who has more experience with that can chime in.

    From their website:

    Ive recently ordered their steel books of Tenebrae and Phenomena and they were carefully packed in bubble wrap and a size appropriate box. Both showed up looking perfect. Well worth the $6

  76. Does anyone know the differences that exist between the Synapse release and the TLE restored edition which is coming to the UK in late November, I am thinking that one does not have the original 4 track sound but other than that, what differences? Colour timing? Extra content?

    It’s been a great year for Argento fans, we have had Phenomena, Deep Red and The Bird with the Crystal Plumage boxsets, early next year we will see Cat O’ Nine Tails, I have high hopes that next year we shall get new 4K OCN editions of Opera and Four Flies On Grey Velvet.

  77. FoxyMulder

    Does anyone know the differences that exist between the Synapse release and the TLE restored edition which is coming to the UK in late November, I am thinking that one does not have the original 4 track sound but other than that, what differences? Colour timing? Extra content?

    It’s been a great year for Argento fans, we have had Phenomena, Deep Red and The Bird with the Crystal Plumage boxsets, early next year we will see Cat O’ Nine Tails, I have high hopes that next year we shall get new 4K OCN editions of Opera and Four Flies On Grey Velvet.

    Oh boy, this can of worms. Both are from the same scan, but only the Synapse release involved Tovoli in the color timing.

    As for the other Argentos, Scorpion Releasing is releasing Opera from a new 2K scan. The single disc version is up for pre-order at Amazon, while a 2 or 3 disc special edition is coming early next year and will only be available from Diabolik DVD and Ronin Flix

  78. Derrick King

    Oh boy, this can of worms. Both are from the same scan, but only the Synapse release involved Tovoli in the color timing.

    As for the other Argentos, Scorpion Releasing is releasing Opera from a new 2K scan. The single disc version is up for pre-order at Amazon, while a 2 or 3 disc special edition is coming early next year and will only be available from Diabolik DVD and Ronin Flix

    I cannot find the pre-order for Opera on Amazon. Do you have a link?

  79. Derrick King

    Oh boy, this can of worms. Both are from the same scan, but only the Synapse release involved Tovoli in the color timing.

    I ordered the Synapse version when it became available, and I've also contributed on Indiegogo to get the UK UHD version… It'll be interesting to see which version is superior. I suspect it'll be the Synapse… The UHD disc might be great, but after reading the various explanations for not including HDR, I'm not overtly convinced. I can predict keeping the Synapse and eBaying the UK disc…

  80. Derrick King

    As for the other Argentos, Scorpion Releasing is releasing Opera from a new 2K scan. The single disc version is up for pre-order at Amazon, while a 2 or 3 disc special edition is coming early next year and will only be available from Diabolik DVD and Ronin Flix

    Thanks for the heads up for the multi disc Opera. I'll happily wait. Diabolik are great

  81. Russell G

    Thanks for the heads up for the multi disc Opera. I'll happily wait. Diabolik are great

    Scorpion are doing the same with Soavi's The Church and The Sect. Regular editions first, with special editions sold only at Diabolik and Ronin Flix at some later date.

  82. Ken Koc

    I purchased and watched the Italian 4K UHD disc of SUSPIRIA. I'm surprised it's not being released in the US.

    I would normally love Suspiria in 4k UHD HDR splendor, but after dropping almost $50 on the Synapse BD release, I do not think I will be upgrading this title again anytime soon.

  83. English and Italian tracks. Subtitles on the Italian tracks.
    It looks great except there are times usually long shots where it looks a bit blurry. The English track….there was a slight noise ( a hum) that i was surprised to hear during quieter moments.

  84. Amazon is taking pre-orders for Suspiria… for nearly $90. I had to look and see if it was a third-party seller jacking up the price like that, but nope. Sold and shipped by Amazon! I hope nobody gets tricked into paying anywhere near that much when they can still order it directly from Synapse for $50.

  85. Brian Kidd

    Amazon is taking pre-orders for Suspiria… for nearly $90. I had to look and see if it was a third-party seller jacking up the price like that, but nope. Sold and shipped by Amazon! I hope nobody gets tricked into paying anywhere near that much when they can still order it directly from Synapse for $50.

    Wow. I am paying $66.95 USD which equates to $86.52 CDN including shipping all the way up here in Canada, Eh. And I thought that was crazy for me to order. This is a huge mark up for a pre-order on Amazon! We usually don't see this price until after they are sold out and all they are resold by some jerk who only bought it to gouge fans later.
    On that note, I have a SNES mini classic for sale for $300. Never used!

    P.S. Its a cold dead hands situation for my SNES.

  86. Jim*Tod

    Do we have a release date yet? I put my pre-order in months ago.

    Some sites like Bloody Disgusting and Comicbook.com have reported December 19th and December 31st respectively. The 31st date is even listed on the Synapse Films site, but that could be because he is promising it before the new year. Don May Jr. has not confirmed a solid date in any other way. The last Facebook post said it is not set in stone yet.

    Edit: I think he may be waiting to surprise us. It's Christmas time.

  87. Brian Kidd

    Amazon is taking pre-orders for Suspiria… for nearly $90. I had to look and see if it was a third-party seller jacking up the price like that, but nope. Sold and shipped by Amazon! I hope nobody gets tricked into paying anywhere near that much when they can still order it directly from Synapse for $50.

    Well, that might ease my pain of paying US$52.99 for the discs, plus $21.38 shipping to Norway from Diabolik DVD way back in August….Amazon are sure helping themselves to a huge mark-up. They obviously can't hammer down the price with Synapse.

  88. Update from Synapse. Looks like it is very soon. Found here

    "Orders for the SUSPIRIA Steelbook placed directly from synapse-films.com are being shipped by CAV Distribution, from their South San Francisco warehouse. At the time of this writing, all items associated with the release are being inspected, packed, and assembled by CAV, in preparation to begin shipments to customers some time next week."

  89. Synapse have taken down the pre-order page as they are very close to selling out. If you still want a copy, you have to call them directly. Also, Synapse has said that they didn't supply any copies to Amazon for sale, so who knows if anyone foolish enough to order from them instead of via Synapse or Diabolik will even get a copy?

  90. Brian Kidd

    Synapse have taken down the pre-order page as they are very close to selling out. If you still want a copy, you have to call them directly. Also, Synapse has said that they didn't supply any copies to Amazon for sale, so who knows if anyone foolish enough to order from them instead of via Synapse or Diabolik will even get a copy?

    To piggyback on that, for anyone that hasn't heard of Diabolik, I've ordered from them a couple of times and I have nothing but good to say about them. Well packaged and fast shipping. As of now, they've still got Suspiria in stock.

    Also, congrats to Synapse for moving all 6,000 copies. Based on what limited editions seem to sell today, I thought this would be around for a few months at least so it's cool that this must be a pretty big success for them.

  91. TravisR

    To piggyback on that, for anyone that hasn't heard of Diabolik, I've ordered from them a couple of times and I have nothing but good to say about them. Well packaged and fast shipping. As of now, they've still got Suspiria in stock.

    I second the recommendation. Diabolik will often carry films that other retailers don't because small labels will often use them exclusively to sell their discs. They have great customer service and do a great job with their shipping. Sometimes they cost a little more than someplace like Amazon, but they're a tiny company in comparison. I have yet to have a negative experience with Diabolik.

  92. TravisR

    To piggyback on that, for anyone that hasn't heard of Diabolik, I've ordered from them a couple of times and I have nothing but good to say about them. Well packaged and fast shipping. As of now, they've still got Suspiria in stock.

    Also, congrats to Synapse for moving all 6,000 copies. Based on what limited editions seem to sell today, I thought this would be around for a few months at least so it's cool that this must be a pretty big success for them.

    Yes I'm surprised they sold 6,000 that fast too and glad I preordered. Most 3,000 edition runs these days take a couple years to sell out. This one is sure to go for well over $100 on Amazon now.

  93. Randy Korstick

    Yes I'm surprised they sold 6,000 that fast too and glad I preordered. Most 3,000 edition runs these days take a couple years to sell out. This one is sure to go for well over $100 on Amazon now.

    I think it's because Suspiria is such a well-regarded film for Horror fans. It's a film that demands a top-notch image and soundtrack in order to convey the overwhelming sensory experience that was intended by Argento and his production team. Because of the long period of time between Synapse announcing their restoration work and its completion, anticipation has gone through the roof on this one. Every time a new release of Suspiria came out somewhere else in the world and had flaws, people would say, "Just wait until Synapse delivers their restoration!" Even the Italian Blu-ray that came out earlier this year, which looked and sounded pretty good to me, has been said to be inferior to Synapse's restoration. Expectations are very high for this release, so i'm not surprised at all that it has sold out.

    Amazon is still accepting pre-orders at their grossly-inflated price, btw. I'm wondering if they surreptitiously bought up a bunch of them from Synapse or Diabolik so they could re-sell them. Pure speculation, of course, but considering Synapse have publicly said they didn't supply any to Amazon, I don't see how else they would get them.

  94. Brian Kidd

    I think it's because Suspiria is such a well-regarded film for Horror fans. It's a film that demands a top-notch image and soundtrack in order to convey the overwhelming sensory experience that was intended by Argento and his production team. Because of the long period of time between Synapse announcing their restoration work and its completion, anticipation has gone through the roof on this one. Every time a new release of Suspiria came out somewhere else in the world and had flaws, people would say, "Just wait until Synapse delivers their restoration!" Even the Italian Blu-ray that came out earlier this year, which looked and sounded pretty good to me, has been said to be inferior to Synapse's restoration. Expectations are very high for this release, so i'm not surprised at all that it has sold out.

    Amazon is still accepting pre-orders at their grossly-inflated price, btw. I'm wondering if they surreptitiously bought up a bunch of them from Synapse or Diabolik so they could re-sell them. Pure speculation, of course, but considering Synapse have publicly said they didn't supply any to Amazon, I don't see how else they would get them.

    I doubt that Amazon is "scalping" copies in that manner. They are a huge company, so selling a few copies of this title at an inflated price wouldn't even be a blip on their bottom line.

    It's great to see the title selling so well. I am really glad I pre-ordered this, even though the price was quite a bit more than I usually spend on a single film title — these Argento releases have been the rare exception to my price ceiling. Hopefully copies will be shipped out soon.

  95. Just $80.90 here on Amazon.ca. Which is quite reasonable considering it is was $86.52 CDN to order from Synapse with shipping and exchange rate. It would be $93.04 or $91.42 after taxes depending on your province.
    I would still urge people to buy directly from Synapse. More direct profit for their hard work leads to more future awesome releases.

  96. brap

    Update from Synapse. Looks like it is very soon. Found here

    "Orders for the SUSPIRIA Steelbook placed directly from synapse-films.com are being shipped by CAV Distribution, from their South San Francisco warehouse. At the time of this writing, all items associated with the release are being inspected, packed, and assembled by CAV, in preparation to begin shipments to customers some time next week."

    I got my shipping notice from CAV today.

  97. Charles Smith

    I got it, too, and had no idea who the hell CAV was, and when I clicked on the tracking number the USPS didn't actually have it online yet.

    Same here but then I remembered Alisdair's post and put it together.

  98. No shipping notice yet. I'm freaking out a little here! I did order about 2 days after the sale went up though and they said first come first shipped. Not to mention they are sending it to Canada and are probably treating international ones different.
    Still. Looking forward to my CAV. Dusting off my LaserDisc player. I may be confused now from the anticipation.

  99. Looks like their shipping situation is a shitshow. Perfect idea to take vacation 2 days after their most important release in a decade ships….

    https://www.facebook.com/synapsefilms/posts/1868476303180366

    Synapse Films’ offices will be closing for the holiday break on December 15, 2017. During this time, we will not be open, and calls and messages to our office may not be answered until we return on January 2, 2018.
    Any orders placed via our website, after noon (12pm) Eastern Time on Thursday, December 14th, 2017 will be filled shortly after we return for the new year. If you have any questions or concerns regarding your CAV SUSPIRIA Steelbook shipment during the holiday, please contact CAV Distribution at (650) 588-2228, or email them at: [email protected]

    Also, passing blame to your distributor? Total minor league rookie move. I didn't order from CAVD, I ordered from Synapse.

    Also, shipping to people who ordered in October before August orders? LOL.

  100. Sam Posten

    Looks like their shipping situation is a shitshow. Perfect idea to take vacation 2 days after their most important release in a decade ships….

    https://www.facebook.com/synapsefilms/posts/1868476303180366

    Synapse Films’ offices will be closing for the holiday break on December 15, 2017. During this time, we will not be open, and calls and messages to our office may not be answered until we return on January 2, 2018.
    Any orders placed via our website, after noon (12pm) Eastern Time on Thursday, December 14th, 2017 will be filled shortly after we return for the new year. If you have any questions or concerns regarding your CAV SUSPIRIA Steelbook shipment during the holiday, please contact CAV Distribution at (650) 588-2228, or email them at: [email protected]

    Also, passing blame to your distributor? Total minor league rookie move. I didn't order from CAVD, I ordered from Synapse.

    Also, shipping to people who ordered in October before August orders? LOL.

    I ordered 8/25 and mine will be here on Monday according to USPS tracking.

    Don May said that CAV is handling distribution of this due to the fact that he has trouble with his leg and can't stand for long periods of time. That would leave one person to ship 6,000 discs. Personally, I'm happy that CAV is handling it as they'll be able to get these to people quicker (larger staff). CAV has been in business for decades now, so I'm confident they know what they're doing.

  101. Based solely upon the quality of their previous releases (and the apparent quiet, diligent and lengthy work on this release), I'm sure that the wait will be worthwhile even if it's an extra couple of weeks – I placed the preorder without any specific delivery date stated. It will be Xmas 😉 whenever it arrives as I am sure that they are doing the best the can.:)

    Regards,

  102. This thread is far more pleasant to read than the one on another forum that shall remain nameless. My set is due to arrive tonight. I can't wait to dig into it and see what Synapse has been working on for so many years. I'd say it's like Christmas except that, well, you know. 😉

  103. Reggie W

    I don't have a shipping notice yet, ordered on August 25, 2017. Looking forward to seeing this whenever it arrives.

    The last thing I saw from CAV is that they were planning on shipping out the remainder of the discs they had yet to ship on Monday. That was second-hand from someone, elsewhere on the Net, though, so don't consider it gospel. It's also possible that your spam filter caught the notice, since it was likely from a sender that was previously unknown to you. It happens. I hope you either hear something soon or get a surprise in your mailbox in the next day or two.

  104. Brian Kidd

    The last thing I saw from CAV is that they were planning on shipping out the remainder of the discs they had yet to ship on Monday. That was second-hand from someone, elsewhere on the Net, though, so don't consider it gospel. It's also possible that your spam filter caught the notice, since it was likely from a sender that was previously unknown to you. It happens. I hope you either hear something soon or get a surprise in your mailbox in the next day or two.

    Having ordered a fair number of limited edition movies or soundtracks over the years, I've been on both ends of the situation before. I've been unhappy seeing people already getting theirs when mine hasn't even shipped and I've been one of the lucky early recipients BUT I've never been burned by a company so to those waiting, I'd also say to not worry.

  105. Reggie W

    I don't have a shipping notice yet, ordered on August 25, 2017. Looking forward to seeing this whenever it arrives.

    We are in the same boat. As long as mine ships before the end of the year, I'll be happy. I have waited this long for Suspiria on BD, so a few more days isn't the end of the world.

  106. They are shipping nearly 6000 of these. It would take time on a specialty item even with a big company. Ordered on August 27th and got my notification Friday night. Now I am stalking it like an ex on Facebook (He's not right for you, Becky!). It has not budged from the warehouse yet or USPS is just slow with their tracking updates.
    It is odd that the first come first shipped is messed up though.

  107. Russell G

    I got a shipping notice, but no tracking due to being in the wilds of Canada, so mine should arrive at some point in time in the future! I wont panic until it's 8 weeks late.

    I am usually able to track it on Canada Post once it hits the border.

  108. brap

    I am usually able to track it on Canada Post once it hits the border.

    Me too, this one though isn't posing any updates and it says tracking is not available in the US site. I'll try tracking later, it shipped Friday so I doubt it's at customs yet.

  109. Reggie W

    Well, oddly I post that I did not have a shipping notice and the post man just delivered it 20 minutes ago. So, my copy has landed.

    So, Reggie, we both order ours on 8/25, neither of us gets a shipping notice, and the mail man — drum roll please :drum:

    …just dropped off my copy, too! :banana:

  110. I've watched the first 20 minutes of the film and skipped around the rest, saving the full viewing for this weekend when I can sit down with my stepsons and view it.

    This one was worth the wait and the money. As much as I expected Synapse's restoration to be lovely, my expectations were more than shattered. It is truly like watching it for the first time. The colors… oh, the colors! Saturation such as I've never seen, never with a hint of bleeding. The sumptuous image combined with the 4-track audio that literally swirls about you made me literally gasp at times. I'm not kidding. It's that wonderful.

    I've watched all of the video supplements as well. They are all well done and treat the film as the absolute work of art that it is, although watching them all in a row did show quite a bit of repetition of material. Still, they are all worthwhile. I will have to listen to the commentary tracks at a later date. I look forward to them.

    The packaging and booklet are beautifully designed. It is a cover worth displaying.

    I have now owned the Anchor Bay DVD set, the Italian Blu-ray, and this new one from Synapse. This one is the real deal. I can say with no hesitation that the work that Don May and his folks put into Suspiria has resulted in a final version that blows all others out of the water. Synapse has every right to brag. This is the version of Suspiria by which all others will be judged.

  111. I just finished watching my disc, and I completely agree with Brian's comments. Not only is the image quality amazing, but the soundtrack is so immersive. This is really like seeing the film for the first time! I couldn't be more pleased with the purchase.

  112. Charles Smith

    Agree with Brian and Scott, above.

    STUNNING.

    No other word need apply.

    I can’t be sure (and indeed, some things should remain private), but I do believe my screen had a sexual experience today.

    "Ooh err missus" 😆

    Totally agree with the above sentiments regarding the QUALITY of the presentation – not sure what I'm going to do when the UHD gets announced!

    Regards,

  113. Stunning is the right word. I just finished watching it.

    Even though I knew about the original 4-track mix being used, I wasn't prepared for just how incredible it would sound. I haven't had the Anchor Bay DVD to play in many years, but I certainly don't remember it sounding anywhere near as good as this.

    Totally worth the wait (as painful as it was at times).

  114. Jeff Adkins

    Stunning is the right word. I just finished watching it.

    Even though I knew about the original 4-track mix being used, I wasn't prepared for just how incredible it would sound. I haven't had the Anchor Bay DVD to play in many years, but I certainly don't remember it sounding anywhere near as good as this.

    Totally worth the wait (as painful as it was at times).

    I agree the picture is stunning. I owned this on Japanese Laserdisc and then the Anchor Bay DVD. While the DVD was a big step up picture wise over the Laserdisc, the soundtrack was a huge disappointment. In creating a new 5.1 mix they greatly lowered the volume of the Goblin score pushing it to the background and greatly reducing the overall impact of the film. This is one of those exceptions to the rule where the music soundtrack needs to be up front, in your face and surrounding you to get the full impact of the film. The laserdisc and the theatrical presentation had this. The DVD unfortunately really lacked. I'm happy to report the soundtrack is now better than ever on this new Blu Ray. They did an excellent job on this 4.0 track.

  115. Synapse's fulfillment house delivered a big batch of orders to the post office on December 19th at 5:00pm. These were among the first day's orders and were supposed to have gone out last Thursday. The shipping labels were created at 10am on the 15th. They sat on them for over 4 days.

  116. I watched my copy last night and with the caveat that I'm no expert on the movie, I think this disc looks and sounds incredible. It's such a gorgeous looking movie and this Blu-ray really shows that off. Hats off to all involved!

  117. Vincent_P

    The official street date as per Synapse's website is December 31.

    And people are complaining that their orders were shipped on December 19.

    OKAY…

    Vincent

    I hate to say it, but are you surprised? At least it's fairly civil over here at the HTF (as it usually is). I'd stay far away from some other sites' forums, if I were you.

    Personally, I couldn't be happier with both Synapse's service and the lovely Blu-ray set. The work done on both the image and sound mix (THANK YOU, VINCENT) show the absolute love that went into this project. Once the initial grumbling about shipping speed has diminished, I doubt you'll see a negative word about the actual film transfer. I mean, you will, this is the Internet; but those people will be nuts. This release was 100% worth the wait.

  118. Vincent_P

    The official street date as per Synapse's website is December 31.

    And people are complaining that their orders were shipped on December 19.

    OKAY…

    Vincent

    We're just excited because we were told that it would be shipping soon. There is so much anticipation for this title. Just ask how many are camping outside their mail box.
    I would hang out in front of mine myself, but it is in front of a playground. That's when the cops would show up.

  119. Given the choice, I'll order from Diabolik next time. When they send me a shipping notice, they actually ship it. They don't sit and wait four and a half days to take it to the post office. I ordered it on the first day at 10am. People who ordered in the last couple of weeks have already received theirs. I guess they didn't ship in the order that they were received like they said they were going to do. I'm not mad. Just irked.

  120. Maybe the shipping order is random. I ordered mine on Day One and got it no problem.

    No shipping notice, no surprise room full of razor wire, just a box on my desk at work. Based on the buzz here, I thought it was running socks I had ordered.

    When I sliced open the box and saw the separately included Suspiria slipcase peeking behind the flap, I got giddy as a German dance academy schoolgirl.

  121. They beat release date, that's awesome.

    Not sending shipping notices, and actually shipping, to people who bought in August while October buyers have them in hand, not awesome.
    Blaming your distributors, not awesome.
    Distributors not responding to repeated inquiries, not awesome.
    Going on vacation while your biggest release ships, and not being able to respond to inquiries, not awesome.

    That's how I see it @Vincent-P YMMV.

  122. Sam Posten

    They beat release date, that's awesome.

    Not sending shipping notices, and actually shipping, to people who bought in August while October buyers have them in hand, not awesome.
    Blaming your distributors, not awesome.
    Distributors not responding to repeated inquiries, not awesome.
    Going on vacation while your biggest release ships, and not being able to respond to inquiries, not awesome.

    That's how I see it @Vincent-P YMMV.

    Yeah. I ordered on day one, and have yet to receive either a shipping notice or the steelbook. This has been a complete botch job.

  123. Weird that their is so many shipping date complaints about a title many of us blindly bought with no idea when it would actually ship other than "before the end of the year". 😛

    I've been so blind to it that I missed the special features announcement! ha!

    I presume mine is in the mail. I still can't track it. It just say "This is a confirmation that the shipper contacted us for pick up, there is no tracking for this order.". If I see it before the 31st I'll be happy. 🙂

  124. Russell G

    Weird that their is so many shipping date complaints about a title many of us blindly bought with no idea when it would actually ship other than "before the end of the year". 😛

    I've been so blind to it that I missed the special features announcement! ha!

    I presume mine is in the mail. I still can't track it. It just say "This is a confirmation that the shipper contacted us for pick up, there is no tracking for this order.". If I see it before the 31st I'll be happy. 🙂

    Mine's said the same thing. "PRE-SHIPMENT INFO SENT TO USPS, USPS AWAITING ITEM" since the 16th. I have a feeling that it is on the way, but USPS is dropping the ball on the tracking.

  125. It isn't the USPS. It's CAV. My shipment sat like yours for 5 days. Then all of a sudden it showed up as being dropped off and tracking proceeded normally. I think CAV generated all the labels in one big batch and every day they are packing and shipping a few more.

    I'm used to Amazon and eBay sellers who ship "fast and free" getting the shipments right to the post office. That isn't happening here.

  126. bigshot

    It isn't the USPS. It's CAV. My shipment sat like yours for 5 days. Then all of a sudden it showed up as being dropped off and tracking proceeded normally. I think CAV generated all the labels in one big batch and every day they are packing and shipping a few more.

    I'm used to Amazon and eBay sellers who ship "fast and free" getting the shipments right to the post office. That isn't happening here.

    Those Amazon and eBay sellers aren't shipping 6000 discs at once.

  127. bigshot

    It isn't the USPS. It's CAV. My shipment sat like yours for 5 days. Then all of a sudden it showed up as being dropped off and tracking proceeded normally. I think CAV generated all the labels in one big batch and every day they are packing and shipping a few more.

    Ouch. Add clearing customs to that I will have it up here in February. Something romantic for Valentine's Day I guess.
    "Hey honey. Got something to cuddle up to watch…. Is it creepy?…. Well, it has Udo Keir in it….. I get that. While You Were Sleeping it is"

  128. Jeff Adkins

    Those Amazon and eBay sellers aren't shipping 6000 discs at once.

    Well, Amazon ships a lot of discs every day, but they are a huge company with the infrastructure built to handle the volume. Synapse is a small company — so much so that they need to outsource shipping for a release of 6,000 units.

  129. Worth

    So, has anyone compared this to the European restoration?

    I know screenshots are never a fair way to judge but there are plenty of sites showing comparisons that way. Based on those the European version is darker, a little less detailed and the colors slightly different and not as rich and vivid. Based on screenshot the Synapse version is night and day better.

  130. Scott Merryfield

    Well, Amazon ships a lot of discs every day, but they are a huge company with the infrastructure built to handle the volume. Synapse is a small company — so much so that they need to outsource shipping for a release of 6,000 units.

    And they outsourced to a professional fulfillment company. Why is it taking CAV two weeks to send all these out? They should have had everything ready when the shipment of discs arrived and had a crew ready to blow them out quickly. As it is, it's taking them 2 weeks to send out all the orders.

    I watched it last night. Synapse did a fantastic job. The color is incredible but the most striking thing is the sound. I've seen this film many times with the 5.1 soundtrack. It is like any other movie when it comes to sound. But this original 4 channel mix is just as hallucinatory and unreal as the action on the screen. It adds a whole new level of surrealism. I'd put this movie in the category of Cabinet of Dr Caligari or Nosferatu or Eraserhead. It's an experience that creates an otherworldly atmosphere more strongly than any other movie I can think of.

    The CD sounds good, but it doesn't sound as good as the music in the film's mix. I was kind of expecting that though. It would have been better if they provided a music only track in 4 channel instead of the CD.

  131. bigshot

    I watched it last night. Synapse did a fantastic job. The color is incredible but the most striking thing is the sound. I've seen this film many times with the 5.1 soundtrack. It is like any other movie when it comes to sound. But this original 4 channel mix is just as hallucinatory and unreal as the action on the screen. It adds a whole new level of surrealism. I'd put this movie in the category of Cabinet of Dr Caligari or Nosferatu or Eraserhead. It's an experience that creates an otherworldly atmosphere more strongly than any other movie I can think of.

    The CD sounds good, but it doesn't sound as good as the music in the film's mix. I was kind of expecting that though. It would have been better if they provided a music only track in 4 channel instead of the CD.

    The soundtrack really surprised me — in a good way. Like you, I had only experienced the film with the old 5.1 track mix. This new four-track mix is incredible, and makes for an entirely different experience watching the film. The restoration of the image is terrific, too, but I think most of us expected that would be the case. I wasn't expecting to be this blown away by the audio.

  132. Worth

    So, has anyone compared this to the European restoration?

    I have the Italian Blu-ray that said it was from the 4K restoration as well as the Synapse. The Italian disc was pretty and made me satisfied… until I saw the Synapse disc. I'll never watch the Italian disc again. Synapse wins in both the image and sound departments.

  133. bigshot

    And they outsourced to a professional fulfillment company. Why is it taking CAV two weeks to send all these out? They should have had everything ready when the shipment of discs arrived and had a crew ready to blow them out quickly. As it is, it's taking them 2 weeks to send out all the orders.

    I watched it last night. Synapse did a fantastic job. The color is incredible but the most striking thing is the sound. I've seen this film many times with the 5.1 soundtrack. It is like any other movie when it comes to sound. But this original 4 channel mix is just as hallucinatory and unreal as the action on the screen. It adds a whole new level of surrealism. I'd put this movie in the category of Cabinet of Dr Caligari or Nosferatu or Eraserhead. It's an experience that creates an otherworldly atmosphere more strongly than any other movie I can think of.

    The CD sounds good, but it doesn't sound as good as the music in the film's mix. I was kind of expecting that though. It would have been better if they provided a music only track in 4 channel instead of the CD.

    I agree on the sound and it is similar but superior to the mix that those of us who owned this on Laserdisc were used to. That's why there where so many complaints about the poor 5.1 mix on the Anchor Bay DVD way back in 2002 when it came out. It ruined the great use of the Goblin score that is a must to fully appreciate this film.

  134. The Anchor Bay DVD is all that I know. This new one will be a revelation.
    Don May Jr has said in a few podcasts that the 4K European transfer is boasting cinematographer-approved accurate colors while it is not and they believe that it is based on the print that they used.

  135. Scott Merryfield

    The soundtrack really surprised me — in a good way. Like you, I had only experienced the film with the old 5.1 track mix. This new four-track mix is incredible, and makes for an entirely different experience watching the film. The restoration of the image is terrific, too, but I think most of us expected that would be the case. I wasn't expecting to be this blown away by the audio.

    That's what the movie sounded like first run in the US in theaters that were equipped for projecting 4 track mag. The theater I worked in had low and high volume horns behind the screen as well as surround speakers in the back, and on the sides, so that the sound itself was really loud and frightening, not to mention three-dimesional, with howls and strange percussion sounds appearing suddenly from a speaker to your right and then behind you so it seemed like a ghost was physically there right next to you. It was simultaneously horrifying and wonderful.

  136. bigshot

    It isn't the USPS. It's CAV. My shipment sat like yours for 5 days. Then all of a sudden it showed up as being dropped off and tracking proceeded normally. I think CAV generated all the labels in one big batch and every day they are packing and shipping a few more.

    I'm used to Amazon and eBay sellers who ship "fast and free" getting the shipments right to the post office. That isn't happening here.

    Well, Diabolik and USPS have sent mine off to Russia. I can just picture a special Christmas screening of this in the Kremlin.View attachment 42692

  137. titch

    Well, Diabolik and USPS have sent mine off to Russia. I can just picture a special Christmas screening of this in the Kremlin.View attachment 42692

    I can't speak to what exactly is happening with it but I will say that the USPS does some weird stuff with their shipping. If it's actually in Russia, I think they probably sent an entire bag of mail to the wrong place and someone will correct it and get it to the right place.

  138. I read in a dossier that Vlad Putin is a big fan of Dario Argento and when he has his people murder an opponent or kill a journalist he does not like he has them stage the killings like a scene from an Argento film. You know to impress upon his enemies he means business.

  139. Nothing here yet and I am feeling kinda bad for out postal workers. It is -25ºF (-32º C in real units). I'm expecting to see a postman-sicle frozen in place holding this trying to put it in my mailbox when I get home.
    I'll just wait for him to thaw in 3 months and mess with his head on everything he missed.

  140. Finally arrived here today. It looks perfect. My kids wanted to touch it with their greasy grilled cheese filled hands.
    Surprised it was delivered given the crappy weather we have been having. I guess CanadaPost really does adhere to their creed "Ain't no mountain high enough. Ain't no river wide enough…"

  141. J. Casey

    Yes, great set. This one appeared to have APARTMENT syndrome. They were "all gone" before release date, then more stock showed up, but it's out of stock again now.

    Synapse said that they were taking it down to make sure that they were able to fill their orders and once they did, they'd sell it again.

  142. Related only in that it's another Dario Argento movie, Diabolik DVD posted this on Facebook today

    A quick insider tip for you. Remember how Arrow Video's Creepshow 2 sold out and then Re-Animator sold out and then Bird with the Crystal Plumage sold out….. you should probably get on Cat O'Nine Tails sooner than later……

    I'm not trying to cause a panic but just pass on the info that it sounds like anyone interested in Cat might want to place an order with their preferred retailer soon.

  143. A friend of mine saw that print and said it's noticeably fading and also showing significant wear around all the reel changes, and apparently the "soft subtitles" are rather shoddy. Given that the Synapse restoration as available as a 4K DCP, I'm surprised this print is still being booked.

    Vincent

  144. Vincent_P

    A friend of mine saw that print and said it's noticeably fading and also showing significant wear around all the reel changes, and apparently the "soft subtitles" are rather shoddy.

    Thanks for the info. I probably wouldn't have gotten off my ass and gone anyway (I'd have to take a train and walk a fair number of blocks to get to the theater) but now when I don't go, I won't feel like I missed out.

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