Shout Factory Press Release: Earthquake Collector’s Edition (1974)

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We’re excited to announce a new Blu-ray release that will shake you to your core! 1974’s epic disaster flick Earthquake is getting the Collector’s Edition treatment on May 21st with a new scan of the film plus an extended cut featuring scenes shot for Television, and available for pre-order now at: http://bit.ly/EarthquakeCollector!

The all-star cast includes Charlton Heston, Ava Gardner, Richard Roundtree, George Kennedy, Genevieve Bujold, Lorne Greene, Victoria Principal, Marjoe Gortner, Barry Sullivan, Monica Lewis, Lloyd Nolan and Walter Matthau. More details and specs will be announced on a later date. Pre-order now at: http://bit.ly/EarthquakeCollector

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  1. I can't wait to have this in my collection, hopefully this means that next year Shout will get Airport for its 50th anniversary and releases both a complete box-set of all 4 films and a stand alone of the original as well.

  2. Tino

    One of my favorites. A definite purchase.

    I have very fond childhood memories of "Earthquake" but don't think the movie holds up. Indeed, I think it's pretty awful.

    I still like "Towering Inferno" but most of the 70s disaster flicks were bad…

  3. Matt Hough

    Sensurround was a BIG hit for me when I went to see this in the theater all those years ago. I never thought much of the movie's narrative, but the special effects were well done for the time.

    And it won an Oscar for visual effects.

    MY love for the film is mostly nostalgic but it is still entertaining despite being kinda dopey. And I LOVED that sensurround.

  4. The special effects range from the brilliant (Albert Whitlock's beautiful matte paintings) to the awful (the inept blood-splattering effect as the elevator crashes down the shaft — where there is some blood superimposed even before the crash — and the twist-the-lens effect for a skyscraper wiggling). Of course, the worst special effect is Lorne Greene (born 1915) as the father of Ava Gardner (born 1922).

  5. RichMurphy

    The special effects range from the brilliant (Albert Whitlock's beautiful matte paintings) to the awful (the inept blood-splattering effect as the elevator crashes down the shaft — where there is some blood superimposed even before the crash — and the twist-the-lens effect for a skyscraper wiggling). Of course, the worst special effect is Lorne Greene (born 1915) as the father of Ava Gardner (born 1922).

    It all just adds to the charm. 😉

  6. RichMurphy

    Of course, the worst special effect is Lorne Greene (born 1915) as the father of Ava Gardner (born 1922).

    He had her when he was still very young 😀

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    I love Ava Gardner but this is not one of her stronger appearances and she lived a bit too hard to age as gracefully as for example Sophia Loren.

  7. OliverK

    He had her when he was still very young 😀

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    I love Ava Gardner but this is not one of her stronger appearances and she lived a bit too hard to age as gracefully as for example Sophia Loren.

    She gives by far the worst performance in the film.

  8. Tino

    She gives by far the worst performance in the film.

    Are you kidding? 🙂 Marjoe Gortner and George Kennedy seem to have been in a contest to see who could give the worst performance. It was a tight race but Gortner won! Gardner gets by on sheer star power. Anyway, it's not the kind of film where the acting matters much.

  9. Thomas T

    Are you kidding? 🙂 Marjoe Gortner and George Kennedy seem to have been in a contest to see who could give the worst performance. It was a tight race but Gortner won! Gardner gets by on sheer star power. Anyway, it's not the kind of film where the acting matters much.

    Not kidding. I thought both Kennedy and Gortner gave way better performances than Gardner. She is unwatchable in this film for me, despite her ample talent and star power.

  10. I only saw it once, and then on tv. I think the version I saw had deleted scenes…something to do with an airplane that couldn't land because the earthquake had made a big crack on the runway. Does anyone else remember this?? Or am I misremembering one of the "Airport" movies?

  11. Ethan Riley

    I only saw it once, and then on tv. I think the version I saw had deleted scenes…something to do with an airplane that couldn't land because the earthquake had made a big crack on the runway. Does anyone else remember this?? Or am I misremembering one of the "Airport" movies?

    No that’s it. It’s the tv version filmed for NBC sequences. They were terrible sequences.

    It will be on this Blu Ray.

  12. Thank you, Tino. I was only 11 when that aired. I remember the next day at school all these fifth graders complaining about those added scenes, saying they were stupid compared to the original cut. Even little kids know when too much is too much.

  13. Douglas R

    One of the main problems I always had with Earthquake was that it's so cheap looking. As if the budget was nowhere near sufficient for the concept and scope of the film.

    Compared to both The Poseidon Adventure and The Towering Inferno, the effects in Earthquake do lack a bit, but then again there's only show much you can do to portray the big event happening aside from moving the ground itself. Where the main event lacks, in the end however it's really believable at least to me when the damn cracks and floods LA.

  14. Douglas R

    One of the main problems I always had with Earthquake was that it's so cheap looking. As if the budget was nowhere near sufficient for the concept and scope of the film.

    Seriously. It's like they just used some mirolon and shook it around to make it look like the ground was moving. At least Irwin Allen set a model on fire for Towering Inferno.

  15. View attachment 54886 As bad as it is in parts, I have soft spot for it as it's the film where I first saw and fell in love with Genevieve Bujold. And the Sensurround was fun in the theater.

    But, man, is it a cheap looking picture. The budget must have gone for the stars’ salaries. It certainly didn’t go for the sets. And it doesn’t help that Mark Robson is one of the most visually boring directors ever.

  16. I love the shot of the mother and daughter during the quake. The mother clearly has the glass shards embedded in her face before she looks up and gets showered with them.

    Like I said, scenes like this and many others, just adds to the charm.

  17. JohnMor

    […]I have soft spot for it as it's the film where I first saw and fell in love with Genevieve Bujold. […]

    Genevieve Bujold is a seismic wave unto herself.:thumbs-up-smiley:

  18. PMF

    Yes, but Genevieve didn't need to wear a wig.:roll:

    Only her hairdresser knows for sure… but more than likely for matching she did, although not quite as "fetching (as in dog)" as Victoria's "Natural" wig doo 😉 !

  19. haineshisway

    Love all the people here who say, "I love this movie, it'll be great to have it in my collection." Did you love it less when Universal released it many years ago? Just curious.

    It was shunned because of the cover art and absence of the TV version.

  20. haineshisway

    Love all the people here who say, "I love this movie, it'll be great to have it in my collection." Did you love it less when Universal released it many years ago? Just curious.

    I enjoyed the movie enough to upgrade my DVD when the Blu-Ray came out in 2013, but not enough to upgrade again now to a "collector's edition."

    And was it just me and my home theater system, or did the DTS Master Audio 5.1 track on the Blu-Ray give a better rumble effect than the DTS 2.1 with Sensurround one?

  21. With disaster movies, for me there's, The Poseidon Adventure (1972) & The Towering Inferno (1974)…& the rest. I really don't feel the need to watch Earthquake again, but I would buy When Time Ran Out (1980) if WAC released it. You have to pick & choose your bad movies (& I have more than my fair share).

  22. haineshisway

    Love all the people here who say, "I love this movie, it'll be great to have it in my collection." Did you love it less when Universal released it many years ago? Just curious.

    Nope, I loved it equal. I’m excited to see what Shout will do with this release and glade to see the NBC version included.

  23. haineshisway

    Love all the people here who say, "I love this movie, it'll be great to have it in my collection." Did you love it less when Universal released it many years ago? Just curious.

    There's nothing more cool to a 13 year old film nerd named Bryan than when the earth and the theater shook with Moses and Julie from Showboat … 😀

  24. haineshisway

    Love all the people here who say, "I love this movie, it'll be great to have it in my collection." Did you love it less when Universal released it many years ago? Just curious.

    I’ve Purchased every release of the film and loved them all.

  25. It terrified me! Mom told me those earthquakes only happen in California. doooon't worry! lol

    I got Earthquake, Pseidon Adv and Towering Inferno on blu 3 years ago…also have the airport dvd set. And I can say my least favorites are Earthquake and Airport 77. My least is Towering Inferno. I'm dying to see Hindenburg again with George C. Scott, saw it once so long ago and loved it.

    I won't rebuy this one.

  26. Ethan Riley

    I only saw it once, and then on tv. I think the version I saw had deleted scenes…something to do with an airplane that couldn't land because the earthquake had made a big crack on the runway. Does anyone else remember this?? Or am I misremembering one of the "Airport" movies?

    LOVE that scene. And they show one of those crazy houses those californy folks hang off the sides of mountains. There's a fantastic Emergency! where they rescue this guy who was up under his trying to repair it. I always think of earthquake when I see a picture of one of those crazy houses. I was thinking about have sweet dreams one night sleeping in a house like that and suddenly I'm on a house sized rollarcoaster!!! Just hold your hands up and scream!!! aaAAARRRGGGGGG…..!! lol

  27. darkrock17

    Universal's cover art isn't great but it's way better than the Good Times DVD cover.

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    GoodTimes' covers had the tendency to be very cheap. Have you seen what they did with Blow Out?

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  28. Mark B

    I was being sarcastic.

    Tino

    Sorry. Couldn’t tell. A 😀 would have helped.

    Usually the word “shunned” is a good tip off to sarcasm unless the discussion is about a genuine religious sect. 😀

  29. Radioman970

    It terrified me! Mom told me those earthquakes only happen in California. doooon't worry! lol

    I got Earthquake, Pseidon Adv and Towering Inferno on blu 3 years ago…also have the airport dvd set. And I can say my least favorites are Earthquake and Airport 77. My least is Towering Inferno. I'm dying to see Hindenburg again with George C. Scott, saw it once so long ago and loved it.

    I won't rebuy this one.

    The Hindenburg is out on blu if you are so interested.

  30. Tino

    I doubt the absence of the absolutely horrendous and unnecessary tv version had anything to do with it.

    Agreed and if its just a cheap videotaped copy from a private collection like they did on Two Minute Warning then they are doing us any favors as that was almost unwatchable.

  31. darkrock17

    I can't wait to have this in my collection, hopefully this means that next year Shout will get Airport for its 50th anniversary and releases both a complete box-set of all 4 films and a stand alone of the original as well.

    There already is a complete box set of all four films.

  32. darkrock17

    I can't wait to have this in my collection, hopefully this means that next year Shout will get Airport for its 50th anniversary and releases both a complete box-set of all 4 films and a stand alone of the original as well.

    Are You aware there is a box set of all four from Universal?

    Or do you also want Shout to release another box set with all four which is unlikely.

  33. Although I always take notice when any cover art is poor, but nothing detours me if a film of interest is known to have inside of the box a disc with a great transfer.
    Will purchase if there are striking improvements in sound and picture, as it did win the Oscar for its sound.

  34. Tino

    Are You aware there is a box set of all four from Universal?

    Or do you also want Shout to release another box set with all four which is unlikely.

    I have Universal's out of print Airport Terminal Pack from 2004. I would love for Shout to do their own collection of the films remastered in 2K for the sequels and the original in 4K and each film loaded with lots of features as well.

  35. darkrock17

    I have Universal's out of print Airport Terminal Pack from 2004. I would love for Shout to do their own collection of the films remastered in 2K for the sequels and the original in 4K and each film loaded with lots of features as well.

    There blu-ray box set from 2016 has 2K remasters of the sequels.

  36. Worth

    There blu-ray box set from 2016 has 2K remasters of the sequels.

    I didn't know Universal released the other Airport films on Blu. Shout could just port those over then and work on giving the original the 4K treatment.

  37. Here’s hoping that the film will include, finally, the original opening with the audience sensurround warning, that is just a must and has been left off of every Universal release. “ATTENTION, THIS FILM WILL BE SHOWN IN THE STARTLING NEW DIMENSION OF SENSURROUND”. Also, maybe for the first time we will get the sensurround trailer instead of the regular trailer. Universal could have been very nostalgic with this film on home video (with the sensurround process) and never chose to.

  38. RobertSiegel

    Here's hoping that the film will include, finally, the original opening with the audience sensurround warning, that is just a must and has been left off of every Universal release. "ATTENTION, THIS FILM WILL BE SHOWN IN THE STARTLING NEW DIMENSION OF SENSURROUND". Also, maybe for the first time we will get the sensurround trailer instead of the regular trailer. Universal could have been very nostalgic with this film on home video (with the sensurround process) and never chose to.

    It was released with a sensurround track.

  39. JQuintana

    Yeah just more bass.

    I remember going to see it as a young kid and being in awe of the gigantic speakers the local theater installed in the back of the theater to create the "sensurround sound"

    It’s not just more bass.

    I believe it was specially designed low frequency speakers.

    Wikipedia.

    Sensurround is the brand name for a process developed by Cerwin-Vega in conjunction with Universal Studios to enhance the audio experience during film screenings, specifically for the 1974 film Earthquake. The process was intended for subsequent use and was adopted for four more films, Midway (1976), Rollercoaster (1977), the theatrical version of Saga of a Star World (1978), the Battlestar Galactica pilot, as well as the compilation film Mission Galactica: The Cylon Attack (1979). Sensurround worked by adding extended-range bass for sound effects. The low-frequency sounds were more felt than heard, providing a vivid complement to onscreen depictions of earth tremors, bomber formations, and amusement park rides. The overall trend toward "multiplex" cinema structures presented challenges that made Sensurround impractical as a permanent feature of cinema.[1]

    Sensurround helped bring wider recognition to established loudspeaker manufacturer Cerwin-Vega,[2] and aided in establishing a strong reputation for new audio amplifier company BGW Systems. The increased awareness of extended low-frequency sound reproduction that Sensurround brought to film audiences was a factor in the increase in subwoofer sales and in the rise in the number of subwoofer designs in the late 1970s and 1980s.

    And it won a special Oscar.

  40. Tino

    It’s not just more bass.

    I believe it was specially designed low frequency speakers.

    Wikipedia.

    Sensurround is the brand name for a process developed by Cerwin-Vega in conjunction with Universal Studios to enhance the audio experience during film screenings, specifically for the 1974 film Earthquake. The process was intended for subsequent use and was adopted for four more films, Midway (1976), Rollercoaster (1977), the theatrical version of Saga of a Star World (1978), the Battlestar Galactica pilot, as well as the compilation film Mission Galactica: The Cylon Attack (1979). Sensurround worked by adding extended-range bass for sound effects. The low-frequency sounds were more felt than heard, providing a vivid complement to onscreen depictions of earth tremors, bomber formations, and amusement park rides. The overall trend toward "multiplex" cinema structures presented challenges that made Sensurround impractical as a permanent feature of cinema.[1]

    Sensurround helped bring wider recognition to established loudspeaker manufacturer Cerwin-Vega,[2] and aided in establishing a strong reputation for new audio amplifier company BGW Systems. The increased awareness of extended low-frequency sound reproduction that Sensurround brought to film audiences was a factor in the increase in subwoofer sales and in the rise in the number of subwoofer designs in the late 1970s and 1980s.

    And it won a special Oscar.

    They were basically stadium style loudspeakers placed in the back of the theater – Cerwin-Vega's were very Bass efficient …
    View attachment 54921
    CAPTION "Mann's Chinese Theatre, Hollywood. California. Waldon O. Watson and Model W Sensurround Horn at the house left rear corner of the auditorium, 1974. From American Cinematographer, November 1974, "Sensurround." The speakers were installed on wooden platforms covering two rows of elevated seating which had been created during the Cinemiracle remodelling in 1958. Note the Altec Lansing 629 "auditorium" speaker as well as the cable for the sensurround speaker punching through a hole in the ceiling."
    Website: http://graumanschinese.org/projection-3.html
    View attachment 54922
    CAPTION: "Mann's Chinese Theatre, Hollywood. California. Waldon O. Watson and Model M Sensurround Horns at the front of the auditorium, 1974. From American Cinematographer, November 1974, "Sensurround." American Cinematographer states that the horn configuration seen in this picture was deemed "too loud" for the front row of seats, and was changed for horns on either side of the screen, but accoring to eyewitness accounts, this is the configuration used during the run of Earthquake at the Chinese."

  41. RobertSiegel

    Here's hoping that the film will include, finally, the original opening with the audience sensurround warning, that is just a must and has been left off of every Universal release. "ATTENTION, THIS FILM WILL BE SHOWN IN THE STARTLING NEW DIMENSION OF SENSURROUND". Also, maybe for the first time we will get the sensurround trailer instead of the regular trailer. Universal could have been very nostalgic with this film on home video (with the sensurround process) and never chose to.

    Agreed. And Sensurround often gets a quick shrug off as a gimmick, when it actually had many innovations and directly helped secure the idea of a dedicated LFE channel in both the theatrical and consumer multi-channel formats, starting with Star Wars.

    Sensurround from the start had separate front / back steering that was very effective. And as shown in B-rolls pics, had the installed fire power to be quite visceral. After the various iterations used for Earthquake, DBX was used on following titles ,and with Battlestar Galactica, Sensurround added further refinements of its steering capabilities.

    To date, none of the Sensurround titles on home video have offered a choice of utilizing the original front back directional steering for those with full range speakers. If someone didn't have this full range capability, bass management could always still dump it all to one's mono sub if needed.

  42. Gary Seven

    Then including the "sensurround track" on the blu ray may do nothing for your system unless you have sufficient low end hardware to support it… or so it would seem.

    Yeah from what I've read the "sensurround" tracks on the previous blu-ray and dvd releases of Earthquake have the tones to actuvate the bass speakers…but they don't actually work.

  43. GregK

    Agreed. And Sensurround often gets a quick shrug off as a gimmick, when it actually had many innovations and directly helped secure the idea of a dedicated LFE channel in both the theatrical and consumer multi-channel formats, starting with Star Wars.

    Sensurround from the start had separate front / back steering that was very effective. And as shown in B-rolls pics, had the installed fire power to be quite visceral. After the various iterations used for Earthquake, DBX was used on following titles ,and with Battlestar Galactica, Sensurround added further refinements of its steering capabilities.

    To date, none of the Sensurround titles on home video have offered a choice of utilizing the original front back directional steering for those with full range speakers. If someone didn't have this full range capability, bass management could always still dump it all to one's mono sub if needed.

    Yeah. Like I said. Not just more bass.

  44. My wife and I saw it at the Ziegfeld in NY. I turned to her and said: This is no different than standing on the lower platform of the West 96th St. subway station while the "A" express roars overhead". I experienced the same rumbling in my inner organs. For free!

  45. bugsy-pal

    I saw this movie in the Cinema as a teenager, with Sensurround. My friend had to rush out of the theatre to have a puke in the toilet – he couldn't handle all that bass! 🙂

    Some theaters had some structural damage during this films run so they had nets hung above the seats to catch pieces that fell from the ceiling. Also I remembering reading somewhere online that the surrounding buildings around the movie theaters that were playing Earthquake shook from the intensity and caused some panic.

  46. B-ROLL

    They were basically stadium style loudspeakers placed in the back of the theater – Cerwin-Vega!s were very Bass efficient …
    View attachment 54921
    CAPTION "Mann's Chinese Theatre, Hollywood. California. Waldon O. Watson and Model W Sensurround Horn at the house left rear corner of the auditorium, 1974. From American Cinematographer, November 1974, "Sensurround." The speakers were installed on wooden platforms covering two rows of elevated seating which had been created during the Cinemiracle remodelling in 1958. Note the Altec Lansing 629 "auditorium" speaker as well as the cable for the sensurround speaker punching through a hole in the ceiling."
    Website: http://graumanschinese.org/projection-3.html
    View attachment 54922
    CAPTION: "Mann's Chinese Theatre, Hollywood. California. Waldon O. Watson and Model M Sensurround Horns at the front of the auditorium, 1974. From American Cinematographer, November 1974, "Sensurround." American Cinematographer states that the horn configuration seen in this picture was deemed "too loud" for the front row of seats, and was changed for horns on either side of the screen, but accoring to eyewitness accounts, this is the configuration used during the run of Earthquake at the Chinese."

    When I saw it they also had the speakers on the side of the auditorium – you had to walk around them to get to your seat.

  47. RolandL

    When I saw it they also had the speakers on the side of the auditorium – you had to walk around them to get to your seat.

    The theater I saw it at 2 1/2 times … (First Saturday it was out I came to an early matinee and stayed for the second. I went and saw it again the next Saturday) …
    Was built for Cinerama(R) but they did not have the two sets of rear speakers as high up as the ones pictured the ______'s Chinese …
    I'm pretty sure the fronts shown were there for the first Saturday shows and NOT there or in the same location at 2nd Saturday show …
    The theatre had center aisle so no one had to climb over the rear speakers to get to their seats…

    Allegedly there was structural damage to the theatre and it stopped showing films sometime in the early eighties I believe … This what was left of it in 1984
    View attachment 54962 🙁

  48. B-ROLL

    The theater I saw it at 2 1/2 times … (First Saturday it was out I came to an early matinee and stayed for the second. I went and saw it again the next Saturday) …
    Was built for Cinerama(R) but they did not have the two sets of rear speakers as high up as the ones pictured the ______'s Chinese …
    I'm pretty sure the fronts shown were there for the first Saturday shows and NOT there or in the same location at 2nd Saturday show …
    The theatre had center aisle so no one had to climb over the rear speakers to get to their seats…

    Allegedly there was structural damage to the theatre and it stopped showing films sometime in the early eighties I believe … This what was left of it in 1984
    View attachment 54962 🙁

    What's the name of the theatre?

  49. darkrock17

    Some theaters had some structural damage during this film's run so they had nets hung above the seats to catch pieces that fell from the ceiling.

    Are we sure that wasn't some sort of publicity stunt; "See EARTHQUAKE in Sensurround and feel real lumps of ceiling fall on your head. Hard hats available for rental in the foyer." Hey. I'd go for that audience participation!

  50. Douglas R

    Are we sure that wasn't some sort of publicity stunt; "See EARTHQUAKE in Sensurround and feel real lumps of ceiling fall on your head. Hard hats available for rental in the foyer." Hey. I'd go for that audience participation!

    A theater here in northern New Jersey – the Fox in Hackensack – definitely lost large chunks of ceiling plaster during their run of Earthquake. They had to install nets after the first incidents.

  51. Douglas R

    Are we sure that wasn't some sort of publicity stunt; "See EARTHQUAKE in Sensurround and feel real lumps of ceiling fall on your head. Hard hats available for rental in the foyer." Hey. I'd go for that audience participation!

    Peter Apruzzese

    A theater here in northern New Jersey – the Fox in Hackensack – definitely lost large chunks of ceiling plaster during their run of Earthquake. They had to install nets after the first incidents.

    This website talks about quite a few incidents that were caused by Earthquake as well as the film Rollercoaster (1977).

    https://www.in70mm.com/news/2011/in_sensurround/english/index.htm

  52. Speaking of the upcoming release of the TV version…when NBC first aired this, it ran on two consecutive Sundays in a 90-minute time slot, which would make this approx. 142 min. If you are correct on the listing being 160 minutes, that would be an 18 minute difference, so we could possibly see 18 minutes of footage never seen anywhere, or unless 18 minutes of the theatrical was taken out for TV broadcast and replaced with the new footage.

  53. Peter Apruzzese

    A theater here in northern New Jersey – the Fox in Hackensack – definitely lost large chunks of ceiling plaster during their run of Earthquake. They had to install nets after the first incidents.

    Ah. The Fox theater in Hackensack. I moved to this area in 1980 and was fortunate enough to see Flash Gordon there before it closed down not too long after. Fond memories. Saw a bunch across the street too at The Oritani triplex.

  54. darkrock17

    Was the damage caused by the film or something else?

    Two Multiplexes within a mile …an economic depression … I don't think it was actually the film but other factors that lead to the closures of single screen theaters

  55. darkrock17

    Was the damage caused by the film or something else?

    The Bethany

    I may be wrong when I said it was "built for Cinerama" as another link says at the same website says they never ran any of the 3-panel films.

    "The Bethany became the second Cinerama venue for the Phoenix area as a result of the Kachina’s lengthy, non-Cinerama roadshow run during 1966 of DOCTOR ZHIVAGO. (Note the absence of RUSSIAN ADVENTURE and delayed opening of KHARTOUM.)"

    I did see Krakatoa East of Java there and they played 2001: A Space Odyssey as well but I didn't see it

  56. Colin Jacobson

    I have very fond childhood memories of "Earthquake" but don't think the movie holds up. Indeed, I think it's pretty awful.

    I still like "Towering Inferno" but most of the 70s disaster flicks were bad…

    There are really only 2 disaster flicks I think still hold up: both by Irwin Allen. The Towering Inferno (which is in desperate need of a 4K video upgrade) and The Poseidon Adventure. The others are just tacky – Earthquake, included.

  57. Lord Dalek

    Seriously. It's like they just used some mirolon and shook it around to make it look like the ground was moving. At least Irwin Allen set a model on fire for Towering Inferno.

    The effects in Earthquake were considered 'ground-breaking' (pun intended) at the time, but are woefully below par by today's standards. By contrast, The Towering Inferno's hellish blaze is a masterful stroke of miniatures, full scale stunts and real fire licking at the heels of the principle cast. 'Inferno' is a classic by any stretch, even with the laughable casting of O.J. Simpson. It has Allen's class 'A' treatment to recommend it, and a budget so staggering (at the time) it needed 2 studios to pool their resources to make it. The results speak for themselves. Also, John Williams' score is superb – best cue, as Robert Wagner races through his outer office ablaze, and about to die. Talk about a fantastic 'tragic' moment!

  58. Nick*Z

    The effects in Earthquake were considered 'ground-breaking' (pun intended) at the time, but are woefully below par by today's standards. By contrast, The Towering Inferno's hellish blaze is a masterful stroke of miniatures, full scale stunts and real fire licking at the heels of the principle cast. 'Inferno' is a classic by any stretch, even with the laughable casting of O.J. Simpson. It has Allen's class 'A' treatment to recommend it, and a budget so staggering (at the time) it needed 2 studios to pool their resources to make it. The results speak for themselves. Also, John Williams' score is superb – best cue, as Robert Wagner races through his outer office ablaze, and about to die. Talk about a fantastic 'tragic' moment!

    Eh I prefer JW's score to The Poseidon Adventure out of his "Disaster Movie Trilogy". Shame the sound quality is unsalvageable without a complete rerecording though.

  59. Nick*Z

    The effects in Earthquake were considered 'ground-breaking' (pun intended) at the time, but are woefully below par by today's standards. By contrast, The Towering Inferno's hellish blaze is a masterful stroke of miniatures, full scale stunts and real fire licking at the heels of the principle cast. 'Inferno' is a classic by any stretch, even with the laughable casting of O.J. Simpson. It has Allen's class 'A' treatment to recommend it, and a budget so staggering (at the time) it needed 2 studios to pool their resources to make it. The results speak for themselves. Also, John Williams' score is superb – best cue, as Robert Wagner races through his outer office ablaze, and about to die. Talk about a fantastic 'tragic' moment!

    Even by today's standards of special effects, The Poseidon Adventure, The Towering Inferno, and Earthquake are still more believable than what could be ever be done with CGI. Where Earthquake's models do show their age, it makes up for it in it's then record breaking number of 145 stunt people involved in a single film.

    The models of both The Tower and the S.S. Poseidon haven't aged a bit in over 40 plus year. The Tower is at it's most realistic at night with the flames shooting out of several floors, makes you forget that it's a very tall model. With the S.S. Poseidon, again it's hard to tell that this is model in certain shoots. The capsizing scene will always be more realistic than what CGI can come up with.

    Lord Dalek

    Eh I prefer JW's score to The Poseidon Adventure out of his "Disaster Movie Trilogy". Shame the sound quality is unsalvageable without a complete rerecording though.

    John Williams's Disaster Trilogy scores are each good in their own ways.

    With The Poseidon Adventure, from it's opening few notes it tells you all about the poor ship's fate and what's to come in the aftermath.

    The Towering Inferno it's action and suspense from start to finish, sometimes at the very same moment.

    And with Earthquake, it's okay; but I don't think it really need a score and it might of been better off like how The Birds (1963) was, just the use of natural sounds. An opening theme is fine, but after that just go with the sounds of the real world, especially after the earthquake strikes.

  60. Nick*Z

    There are really only 2 disaster flicks I think still hold up: both by Irwin Allen. The Towering Inferno (which is in desperate need of a 4K video upgrade) and The Poseidon Adventure. The others are just tacky – Earthquake, included.

    I think "Poseidon Adventure" is relatively good for the reason you mention: so many of the others are bad.

    But it's still erratic and flawed.

    "Inferno" isn't flawless but it's easily the best of the bunch…

  61. Colin Jacobson

    I think "Poseidon Adventure" is relatively good for the reason you mention: so many of the others are bad.

    But it's still erratic and flawed.

    "Inferno" isn't flawless but it's easily the best of the bunch…

    Who's ever heard of a perfect film?

  62. darkrock17

    Even by today's standards of special effects, The Poseidon Adventure, The Towering Inferno, and Earthquake are still more believable than what could be ever be done with CGI. Where Earthquake's models do show their age, it makes up for it in it's then record breaking number of 145 stunt people involved in a single film.

    The models of both The Tower and the S.S. Poseidon haven't aged a bit in over 40 plus year. The Tower is at it's most realistic at night with the flames shooting out of several floors, makes you forget that it's a very tall model. With the S.S. Poseidon, again it's hard to tell that this is model in certain shoots. The capsizing scene will always be more realistic than what CGI can come up with.

    John Williams's Disaster Trilogy scores are each good in their own ways.

    With The Poseidon Adventure, from it's opening few notes it tells you all about the poor ship's fate and what's to come in the aftermath.

    The Towering Inferno it's action and suspense from start to finish, sometimes at the very same moment.

    And with Earthquake, it's okay; but I don't think it really need a score and it might of been better off like how The Birds (1963) was, just the use of natural sounds. An opening theme is fine, but after that just go with the sounds of the real world, especially after the earthquake strikes.

    While I love these films effects, I think properly applied modern state of the art CGI absolutely would have looked more realistic. In all three cases.

  63. Tino

    While I love these films effects, I think properly applied modern state of the art CGI absolutely would have looked more realistic. In all three cases.

    San Andreas and Skyscraper are two modern examples.

  64. Tino

    While I love these films effects, I think properly applied modern state of the art CGI absolutely would have looked more realistic. In all three cases.

    I kinda think that some of the original model work for those films (and other practical effects films) can look better than some modern CGI, but that the modern productions have the edge because the digital composites look far better than the 70s-era optical composites. It would be interesting to see what a film like Towering Inferno or Earthquake would look like if they were able to take the original film elements and recreate the opticals digitally. I think that might be eye-opening to a modern audience.

  65. Tino

    While I love these films effects, I think properly applied modern state of the art CGI absolutely would have looked more realistic. In all three cases.

    San Andreas and Skyscraper are two modern examples.

    Josh Steinberg

    I kinda think that some of the original model work for those films (and other practical effects films) can look better than some modern CGI, but that the modern productions have the edge because the digital composites look far better than the 70s-era optical composites. It would be interesting to see what a film like Towering Inferno or Earthquake would look like if they were able to take the original film elements and recreate the opticals digitally. I think that might be eye-opening to a modern audience.

    What's wrong with using real fire and water, do they not look real enough for today's audiences?

    San Andreas was a box office hit. The effects might of been nice to look at but, that's about it after that.

    Skyscraper was a complete failure, as the general public is aware of both The Towering Inferno and Die Hard and Skyscraper was neither. On paper mashing-up The Towering Inferno and Die Hard together might sound good, but when executed it's a mess.

    Also The Rock might be a big bankable star but, he alone can't carry a movie. For a Disaster movie to work you need a good ensemble cast of characters that you like and want to see them make to very end and when they don't you feel deeply sad that they died.

  66. darkrock17

    What's wrong with using real fire and water, do they not look real enough for today's audiences?

    San Andreas was a box office hit. The effects might of been nice to look at but, that's about it after that.

    Skyscraper was a complete failure, as the general public is aware of both The Towering Inferno and Die Hard and Skyscraper was neither. On paper mashing-up The Towering Inferno and Die Hard together might sound good, but when executed it's a mess.

    Also The Rock might be a big bankable star but, he alone can't carry a movie. For a Disaster movie to work you need a good ensemble cast of characters that you like and want to see them make to very end and when they don't you feel deeply sad that they died.

    We’re talking about the visual effects remember? Not opinions of the films. You stated CGI couldn’t be more realistic than practical model effects if used in those films. I disagreed and provided examples of CGI in disaster films implemented realistically.

  67. darkrock17

    Skyscraper was a complete failure

    In your opinion maybe it was. But it wasn’t financially. It made over $300 million world wide on a $125 million budget. It has likely turned a nice profit by now.

  68. Tino

    In your opinion maybe it was. But it wasn’t financially. It made over $300 million world wide on a $125 million budget. It has likely turned a nice profit by now.

    If it needs 2.5X its budget to go into the black, "Skyscraper" wouldn't have made any profit.

    It earned $304m WW and would need $312.5m to get to 2.5X its budget…

  69. Tino

    We’re talking about the visual effects remember? Not opinions of the films. You stated CGI couldn’t be more realistic than practical model effects if used in those films. I disagreed and provided examples of CGI in disaster films implemented realistically.

    Nothing in San Andreas was any bit believable on any level.

    Tino

    In your opinion maybe it was. But it wasn’t financially. It made over $300 million world wide on a $125 million budget. It has likely turned a nice profit by now.

    Your looking at $$$ your not looking at how the audiences and critics reacted to those films though.

    Both San Andreas and Skyscraper have rotten ratings of 51% and 46% and both movies have been heavily scrutinized by the critics as well.

    The Poseidon Adventure The Towering Inferno, and Earthquake were all box-office hits and critics and audiences's loved them. Now all three''s ratings and opinions about them have changed since they were first released, but all three of these films are still highly remembered 40 plus year later, something none of these new Disaster films will ever achieve.

  70. Colin Jacobson

    No one, but there's nitpicky "flaws" and then there's flaws!!!

    "Inferno" better overcomes its flaws than "Poseidon" does, IMO…

    What flaws are in Poseidon? If you're referring to the table and chairs during the capsizing, that has been explained before.

  71. Too often nowadays the giveaway that a special effect is fake is not that the CGI is poor, but rather that the "camera" angle/movement is so extreme as to be impossible to achieve with a real camera in a real world.

  72. darkrock17

    Nothing in San Andreas was any bit believable on any level.

    Your looking at $$$ your not looking at how the audiences and critics reacted to those films though.

    Both San Andreas and Skyscraper have rotten ratings of 51% and 46% and both movies have been heavily scrutinized by the critics as well.

    The Poseidon Adventure The Towering Inferno, and Earthquake were all box-office hits and critics and audiences's loved them. Now all three''s ratings and opinions about them have changed since they were first released, but all three of these films are still highly remembered 40 plus year later, something none of these new Disaster films will ever achieve.

    Again….I’m talking about the visual effects. NOT your opinion of the films. :wacko:

  73. Colin Jacobson

    If it needs 2.5X its budget to go into the black, "Skyscraper" wouldn't have made any profit.

    It earned $304m WW and would need $312.5m to get to 2.5X its budget…

    C’mon. I know that. It may actually be closer to $375 million to break even. But it’s not an exact science. I was responding to the comment that it was a “complete failure” which it wasn't. And I said by now it has likely turned a profit meaning ancillary sales.

  74. Tino

    Again….I’m talking about the visual effects. NOT your opinion of the films. :wacko:

    Again, as I said NOTHING was believable in San Andreas. Every seismologist tore that film apart for its depiction of that fantasy quake and how seismologist were portrayed as well.

  75. darkrock17

    Again, as I said NOTHING was believable in San Andreas. Every seismologist tore that film apart for its depiction of that fantasy quake and how seismologist were portrayed as well.

    Fine. That’s your opinion not fact. I thought the visual effects and CGI in San Andreas were excellent. And the film as a whole was very entertaining. Ditto for Skyscraper.

  76. darkrock17

    Even by today's standards of special effects, The Poseidon Adventure, The Towering Inferno, and Earthquake are still more believable than what could be ever be done with CGI. Where Earthquake's models do show their age, it makes up for it in it's then record breaking number of 145 stunt people involved in a single film.

    The models of both The Tower and the S.S. Poseidon haven't aged a bit in over 40 plus year. The Tower is at it's most realistic at night with the flames shooting out of several floors, makes you forget that it's a very tall model. With the S.S. Poseidon, again it's hard to tell that this is model in certain shoots. The capsizing scene will always be more realistic than what CGI can come up with.

    John Williams's Disaster Trilogy scores are each good in their own ways.

    With The Poseidon Adventure, from it's opening few notes it tells you all about the poor ship's fate and what's to come in the aftermath.

    The Towering Inferno it's action and suspense from start to finish, sometimes at the very same moment.

    And with Earthquake, it's okay; but I don't think it really need a score and it might of been better off like how The Birds (1963) was, just the use of natural sounds. An opening theme is fine, but after that just go with the sounds of the real world, especially after the earthquake strikes.

    I was watching First Man and I thought the effects were very realistic. They used practical models and rear projection (via video wall) with gimbals that were synched to the rear projected images … So i guess everything old is new again 😉

  77. 2012 is another fun film I thought with great CGI earthquake effects. They also built some sets on gimbles to add realism.

    The disaster scenes were ridiculously over the top tho. But fun. 😛

  78. darkrock17

    So you prefer non stop action from start to finish basically.

    Those moments were they stop for a few minutes makes them more personal and human and we the audience are able to relate to these characters better.

    🙄

    No, I don't want action from start to finish.

    I want good character development and exploration, which we don't get in "PA".

    The movie should devote its pre-disaster time to those elements and do so well. "PA" leaves characters thin and sketchy.

    Once the disaster hits, the movie should be largely action/disaster related.

    Does it make sense to pause for long moments of introspection and sentiment when you're racing against the clock to survive?

  79. Tino

    C’mon. I know that. It may actually be closer to $375 million to break even. But it’s not an exact science. I was responding to the comment that it was a “complete failure” which it wasn't. And I said by now it has likely turned a profit meaning ancillary sales.

    There's a place between "complete failure" and "turning a nice profit"…

  80. Colin Jacobson

    Agree. I'm sure the studio thought it'd do better, but at least it wound up around break-even point, so it wasn't a flop…

    Skyscraper is still a flop, because the film had to depend on China to bail them out. The movie only made $68 million during it's whole US run. Without China's additional $236 million it would of been a complete lost. You know you have a flop when you need China in order make a profit.

  81. darkrock17

    Skyscraper is still a flop, because the film had to depend on China to bail them out. The movie only made $68 million during it's whole US run. Without China's additional $236 million it would of been a complete lost. You know you have a flop when you need China in order make a profit.

    Money is money – doesn't matter where it's made…

  82. Colin Jacobson

    Money is money – doesn't matter where it's made…

    Your absolutely correct. Foreign markets are now producing over 55% of the profit for movies as less and less people in the US are going to the movies. Years ago when I was in the business, the foreign cash was lagniappe, today it’s make or break.

  83. Today's $50 word of the day goes to

    ahollis

    lagniappe

    The foreign market doesn't always make or break a film these days though, only certain movies need the International audience in order to make a decent profit. Action films like Skyscraper are such examples.

  84. darkrock17

    Skyscraper is still a flop

    Repeating an incorrect statement ad nauseam doesn’t make it true. Filmmakers today make films for a global audience. Every dollar counts and the overseas box office market is as important if not more so than the domestic market.

  85. darkrock17

    Today's $50 word of the day goes to

    The foreign market doesn't always make or break a film these days though, only certain movies need the International audience in order to make a decent profit. Action films like Skyscraper are such examples.

    Why does $1 earned in Beijing become less important to you than $1 made in Boston? Who cares if the movie made its money in China vs. USA?

  86. And many Hollywood films are now co-financed by China which helps a lot of films get made that otherwise wouldn’t. Pacific Rim Uprising for example.

    There are many benefits to thinking globally as evidenced by the overseas boxoffice totals of many recent blockbusters.

    And we’re talking Boxoffice numbers here not opinions on the quality of the films.

  87. Tino

    And many Hollywood films are now co-financed by China which helps a lot of films get made that otherwise wouldn’t. Pacific Rim Uprising for example.

    There are many benefits to thinking globally as evidenced by the overseas boxoffice totals of many recent blockbusters.

    And we’re talking Boxoffice numbers here not opinions on the quality of the films.

    The example that used BOMBED big time. This reddit page explains quite well.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/GODZILLA/comments/8cgaw2/pacific_rim_uprising_has_bombed_and_wont_get_a/

  88. Tino

    Back to Earthquake, have any extras been announced other these the horrendous tv footage?

    Too early, Shout will announce those details in April as they usually release that info a month before the release date.

  89. Tino

    San Andreas and Skyscraper are two modern examples.

    Agreed. The producers of Earthquake would've killed to have some of the visuals from San Andreas. In San Andreas you get what looks like real skyscrapers crashing down. In Earthquake, the camera wobbles a bit.

    This is an interesting video, showing how Sensurround speakers were used for a 70mm screening of Earthquake on a curved screen in a German cinema in 2006. Some bits are in German.

  90. Ross Gowland

    Agreed. The producers of Earthquake would've killed to have some of the visuals from San Andreas. In San Andreas you get what looks like real skyscrapers crashing down. In Earthquake, the camera wobbles a bit.

    This is an interesting video, showing how Sensurround speakers were used for a 70mm screening of Earthquake on a curved screen in a German cinema in 2006. Some bits are in German.

    I saw that video, interesting that they choose to use the score from Airport through out it. Did Sensurround really sound like that, as during the quake you couldn't hear what was going on screen.

  91. darkrock17

    I saw that video, interesting that they choose to use the score from Airport through out it. Did Sensurround really sound like that, as during the quake you couldn't hear what was going on screen.

    IMHO the Sensurround was more effective for the SPOILER: Aftershocks than for the quake itself …

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  93. Gotta say these are disappointing extras.

    DISC ONE:

    • BRAND NEW 2K REMASTER OF THE THEATRICAL CUT OF THE FILM
    • Audio Options: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1, 2.1 w/Sensurround audio and 2.0
    • Original Theatrical Trailer
    • Original TV Spot
    • Original Radio Spots
    • Vintage audio Interviews with Charlton Heston, Lorne Greene and Richard Roundtree
    • Still Galleries – movie stills, posters and lobby cards, behind-the-scenes photos and matte paintings and miniatures

    DISC TWO:

    • BRAND NEW 2K REMASTER OF THE TV VERSION, featuring over 20 mins of made-for-broadcast footage (presented in 1.33:1)
    • NEW Sounds of Disaster: Ben Burtt talks about SENSURROUND
    • NEW Scoring Disaster: The Music of EARTHQUAKE
    • NEW Painting Disaster: The Matte Art of Albert Whitlock
    • Isolated TV scenes – Play them without watching the TV version of the film
    • Additional TV scenes (taken from best available film elements)

    I don’t give a shit about the terrible TV scenes!

  94. darkrock17

    Oh Tino, Tino, Tino .

    Looks like Ron going to making a visit here soon.

    Umm….I Don’t think so.

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  95. That airplane landing on the cracking landing strip in the TV version was pretty bad. Wow they stretched that out for commercials and everything. Even my 12 year old self was saying—"this is getting pathetic."

  96. So, I quickly saw the specs the other day and I could have sworn it said that the film will contain the original Sensurround track that many of you have been asking about.

    If this is true, what exactly do you expect from that track? I mean, is it going to provide enough LFE signal to crack the plaster in your home?

  97. Ronald Epstein

    So, I quickly saw the specs the other day and I could have sworn it said that the film will contain the original Sensurround track that many of you have been asking about.

    If this is true, what exactly do you expect from that track? I mean, is it going to provide enough LFE signal to crack the plaster in your home?

    The thing is, there isn't a way for all but the most obsessive among us to truly recreate anything near the original Sensurround track in our homes, whether or not an enhanced track is included on the disc. The vast majority of people don't exactly have those ginourmous Cerwin Vega subwoofers installed that created bass so deep that you could feel it.

  98. Brian Kidd

    The thing is, there isn't a way for all but the most obsessive among us to truly recreate anything near the original Sensurround track in our homes, whether or not an enhanced track is included on the disc. The vast majority of people don't exactly have those ginourmous Cerwin Vega subwoofers installed that created bass so deep that you could feel it.

    I got a cool Sub that I can feel from my sofa:thumbs-up-smiley:

  99. Brian Kidd

    The thing is, there isn't a way for all but the most obsessive among us to truly recreate anything near the original Sensurround track in our homes, whether or not an enhanced track is included on the disc. The vast majority of people don't exactly have those ginourmous Cerwin Vega subwoofers installed that created bass so deep that you could feel it.

    Hence my concern as to why this track is so important.

    I mean, I have bass shakers beneath my recliners, but I still don't expect this sensurround track to do anything special. In fact, it seems like you have to give up the 5.1 surrounds for a basic stereo track with extra bass.

  100. Ronald Epstein

    Hence my concern as to why this track is so important.

    I mean, I have bass shakers beneath my recliners, but I still don't expect this sensurround track to do anything special. In fact, it seems like you have to give up the 5.1 surrounds for a basic stereo track with extra bass.

    I completely agree with you. Sensurround is a theatrical gimmick that truly only worked in a theater (and by most accounts, wasn't worth writing home about).

  101. Ronald Epstein

    Hence my concern as to why this track is so important.

    I mean, I have bass shakers beneath my recliners, but I still don't expect this sensurround track to do anything special. In fact, it seems like you have to give up the 5.1 surrounds for a basic stereo track with extra bass.

    One review:

    In any case, the bass extension on Earthquake's soundtrack is certainly impressive for a film of this vintage and will make good use of whatever subwoofer you have in your system to intensify the film's major disaster sequences. Sonically, though, these sequences are still effective.

  102. RolandL

    One review:

    In any case, the bass extension on Earthquake's soundtrack is certainly impressive for a film of this vintage and will make good use of whatever subwoofer you have in your system to intensify the film's major disaster sequences. Sonically, though, these sequences are still effective.

    Link?

  103. Ronald Epstein

    So, I quickly saw the specs the other day and I could have sworn it said that the film will contain the original Sensurround track that many of you have been asking about.

    If this is true, what exactly do you expect from that track? I mean, is it going to provide enough LFE signal to crack the plaster in your home?

    You are going to need 2-3 top of the line SVS subs in each corner to even remotely come close to the original Sensurround experience of the 1970s. I remember my local theater having a sub the size of a restaurant refrigerator in the rear of the auditorium when I saw Rollercoaster.

  104. Brian Kidd

    The thing is, there isn't a way for all but the most obsessive among us to truly recreate anything near the original Sensurround track in our homes, whether or not an enhanced track is included on the disc. The vast majority of people don't exactly have those ginourmous Cerwin Vega subwoofers installed that created bass so deep that you could feel it.

    So true. And this in turns reflects a *big* part of each person's home Sensurround experience. I have four 18" Eminence speakers powered by a professional Crown amp. The house shakes with most Sensurround features, and it still isn't as powerful as what was heard in theaters.

  105. Tino

    No that’s it. It’s the tv version filmed for NBC sequences. They were terrible sequences.

    It will be on this Blu Ray.

    I always thought that sequence worked. Although I don’t recall whether the aircraft was attempting to land or take off.

  106. Peter Apruzzese

    And don't forget that the most extreme bass wasn't on the print, it was synthesized by a device in the booth that read control tones on the print to generate the infrasonic waves.

    There was a gentleman at Universal, who should get some kudos, as he was behind the process.

    Waldon “Waddy” Watson, who among many other accomplishments, was behind the engineering for Sensurround.

    He, fortunately, was with us in April of 1982, when we opened Napoleon at the Dome in 70mm 6-track, for which we had recorded very low frequency organ passages…

    And a tiny twenty-five cent part went awry in the sound system, and Sensurround cut in.

  107. I envy those of you concerned with the Sensurround bass on the Earthquake soundtrack being loud and rumbling enough for your home systems. My neighbors would either be pounding on my door or calling the police for disturbing the peace!

  108. Tino

    The filmed for TV scenes literally add nothing to the film. They actually do the opposite.

    Since that version is on an entirely separate disc, you don't have to *ever* see them again. 🙂

    Robert Harris

    There was a gentleman at Universal, who should get some kudos, as he was behind the process.

    Waldon “Waddy” Watson, who among many other accomplishments, was behind the engineering for Sensurround.

    He, fortunately, was with us in April of 1982, when we opened Napoleon at the Dome in 70mm 6-track, for which we had recorded very low frequency organ passages…

    And a tiny twenty-five cent part went awry in the sound system, and Sensurround cut in.

    That must have been interesting, did the audience notice or was it caught in time?

    Waldon O. Watson – one of those names that, for some reason, I always remembered from the credits even when I was a kid. Along with Murray Spivak (who I learned about by reading 'The Making of King Kong' over and over again).

  109. Peter Apruzzese

    Since that version is on an entirely separate disc, you don't have to *ever* see them again. 🙂

    That must have been interesting, did the audience notice or was it caught in time?

    Waldon O. Watson – one of those names that, for some reason, I always remembered from the credits even when I was a kid. Along with Murray Spivak (who I learned about by reading 'The Making of King Kong' over and over again).

    Oh, yes. It was noticed. We all ended up back in the booth.

  110. The sensurround people, I think Sound Chamber, from North Hollywood, started selling the system to the new Discos that were opening up. I was working at the Cabaret (The Zoo in TGIF) and at closing, I played the album soundtrack on the system and it sounded real good. There were two different versions of the soundtrack LP. One had the short earthquake and the other had the long.

  111. Robert Harris

    I always thought that sequence worked. Although I don’t recall whether the aircraft was attempting to land or take off.

    Can’t tell if your joking or not. :huh:

    In any case it was attempting to Land

  112. Robert Harris

    I always thought that sequence worked. Although I don’t recall whether the aircraft was attempting to land or take off.

    Can’t tell if your joking or not. :huh:

    In any case it was attempting to Land

  113. Tino

    Gotta say these are disappointing extras.

    DISC ONE:

    • BRAND NEW 2K REMASTER OF THE THEATRICAL CUT OF THE FILM
    • Audio Options: DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1, 2.1 w/Sensurround audio and 2.0
    • Original Theatrical Trailer
    • Original TV Spot
    • Original Radio Spots
    • Vintage audio Interviews with Charlton Heston, Lorne Greene and Richard Roundtree
    • Still Galleries – movie stills, posters and lobby cards, behind-the-scenes photos and matte paintings and miniatures

    DISC TWO:

    • BRAND NEW 2K REMASTER OF THE TV VERSION, featuring over 20 mins of made-for-broadcast footage (presented in 1.33:1)
    • NEW Sounds of Disaster: Ben Burtt talks about SENSURROUND
    • NEW Scoring Disaster: The Music of EARTHQUAKE
    • NEW Painting Disaster: The Matte Art of Albert Whitlock
    • Isolated TV scenes – Play them without watching the TV version of the film
    • Additional TV scenes (taken from best available film elements)

    I don’t give a shit about the terrible TV scenes!

    Nothing disappointing about it. This is good enough for me! Look forward to this release!

  114. deepscan

    Nothing disappointing about it. This is good enough for me! Look forward to this release!

    Im looking forward to it too. Day one purchase. Just disappointed in the lack of substantial extras.

  115. I'm not disappointed with the extras, they're 100 times better than what Universal themselves would ever do.

    I would have liked to see a few featurettes about how they did the effects and stunt work, as well as a piece on the history of the Earthquake ride at both Universal Studios in Florida and Hollywood. I saw a video about the ride on YouTube a couple months ago and was very surprised that pre-show used to have the guests/riders reenact a few of the stunts from the film.

    Those two items I would have liked to be included on this release, but since there not it wont be the end of the world for me. Shout worked with whatever Universal was willing to share with them to create what we're getting and that I'm good with that.

  116. I'm late learning about this and I am glad we're getting a new release that also includes the TV cut. I think one thing that hasn't been brought up in this thread regarding this and other TV cuts of Universal films of the 1970s is that the 2008 Universal fire destroyed the tape transfers of a number of these that were being used for TV airings. That's the reason why the TV cut of "Two Minute Warning" had to be sourced from an off-air recording and it's also I think the reason why the long TV cuts of "Airport '77" and "Midway" haven't been seen in years. If they had to source the "Earthquake" TV cut from a TV airing, I won't be surprised. I think it is good that it is being included because at the very least it will mean we can shut down one area of bootleg selling that does include those longer TV cuts.

    I've always found it odd though that Universal shot new footage for TV when there was cutting room floor material from the original shoot they could have put back in. For instance, there was a scene that explained why Stewart Graff hit his breaking point and decided to cheat on Remy, because after her fake suicide attempt he discovered that she had an abortion without telling him (a slip-up by Dr. Lloyd Nolan who was introduced earlier in the film as their regular doctor). Also cut were scenes showing Barry Sullivan and the scientists after the quake making it clear they weren't killed.

    Not that it would have helped because compared to "Towering Inferno" and "Poseidon Adventure", "Earthquake" is very bad with not very interesting main characters (the scientists at the beginning are the most interesting ones and the film should have had characters like that as the focal point). But I'm glad we're getting this kind of presentation just the same.

  117. Jack P

    I've always found it odd though that Universal shot new footage for TV when there was cutting room floor material from the original shoot they could have put back in. For instance, there was a scene that explained why Stewart Graff hit his breaking point and decided to cheat on Remy, because after her fake suicide attempt he discovered that she had an abortion without telling him (a slip-up by Dr. Lloyd Nolan who was introduced earlier in the film as their regular doctor). Also cut were scenes showing Barry Sullivan and the scientists after the quake making it clear they weren't killed.
    .

    That scene might of been considered taboo for NBC even though earlier back in 1972 Maude tackled that topic. That scene would made Stewart and Remy more relatable than just a couple who just can't stand each other.

  118. Ronald Epstein

    So, I quickly saw the specs the other day and I could have sworn it said that the film will contain the original Sensurround track that many of you have been asking about.

    If this is true, what exactly do you expect from that track? I mean, is it going to provide enough LFE signal to crack the plaster in your home?

    They could have easily borrowed one of the existing Mark I generators from Dolby and used that and encoded the output onto the LFE track; they did not and in fact I believe the audio tracks are simple ports of the ones from the Universal Blu-ray so the Sensurround track actually has less bass than the 5.1 track.

    Worse, they seem to have taken the audio for the Sensurround "warning" trailer directly from a clip on YouTube, complete with its bad echo and phasey digital artifacts. This despite the fact I know at least one collector offered Shout! Factory the use of a pristine 35mm print of the Sensurround trailer for them to convert.

    Brian Kidd

    I completely agree with you. Sensurround is a theatrical gimmick that truly only worked in a theater (and by most accounts, wasn't worth writing home about).

    That is not at all true; anyone who experienced actual Sensurround in a real theater will never forget it. You really did feel it more than hear it, the best example I can give is the bass at a rave or EDM concert that you feel more than hear.

    Dolby Cinemas can do something similar today, but the subs in Dolby Cinema theaters are not located in back of you as well as in front, are usually not playing infrasonic frequencies, and certainly not at over 100 dB for the entirety of a long sequence like the main quake in Earthquake.

    Sensurround was a wonderful effect, but I have never yet heard (or should I say felt) anything that reproduced that same effect.

    The fact that the "original trailer" on the disc is a stretched letterbox 4:3 version tells me a lot less time and effort was spent on this than could have been; seeing that was just sad.

    The best benefit is the theatrical cut really does look better than it has since projected in theaters in 1974.

  119. Tino

    The filmed for TV scenes literally add nothing to the film. They actually do the opposite.

    But they do change it slightly.

    The sequence in the pawn shop on the TV version makes it clear that Jodi's neighbors were telling the truth when they said they had a suitcase of jewels because an old lady just gave it to them.

    It comes off as merely a lame excuse in the theatrical cut.

    This may be because TV censors at the time felt more justification was needed for Lou to shoot and kill him in the diner.

    Ironicaly that sequence is included only as an extra in the TV cut because they couldn't find materials good enough to include intercut with the TV version of the film, but I personally have those scenes on SVHS that look better than what they upscaled for the deleted scenes.

    Once again the collector community had better sources for at least some bits, and offered them to Shout! Factory, but they were not interested.

  120. Robert Harris

    Being serious. At least it worked back in 1974-5, or whenever it was broadcast. Possibly not so well today.

    It did.

    As a huge fan of the movie as a kid, I still remember that they needed to hit speed 180 to take off again.

    Yes, it looks silly to me today, but it worked well for pre-teen me. 🙂

  121. I watched my copy of the new Shout! Factory Earthquake last night.

    As reported in another forum, the theatrical version's aspect ratio appears to be closer to 2.2:1 than the correct 2.39:1 original. I initially thought my TV's overscan settings had reverted back to factory setting…

    Can anyone offer any explanation for this? I don't have access to the old BD, but I'm assuming that a significant amount of picture information is being lost on the sides of the Shout! image…

  122. Will*B

    Can anyone offer any explanation for this? I don't have access to the old BD, but I'm assuming that a significant amount of picture information is being lost on the sides of the Shout! image…

    Perhaps the new scan was done based on a 70mm print; 70mm prints had an aspect ratio of 2.20:1 to make room for the magnetic soundtrack.

  123. William Kucharski

    Perhaps the new scan was done based on a 70mm print; 70mm prints had an aspect ratio of 2.20:1 to make room for the magnetic soundtrack.

    That would certainly make sense; Shout's version also features the Sensurround warning and the R-rating at the start of the film – perhaps those were on prints only.

    Shout say they performed a 2K transfer of "original film elements" rather than original camera negative, so perhaps they used a 70mm version for some reason.

    A lot of the shots definitely look a bit cramped on the sides…

  124. Will*B

    That would certainly make sense; Shout's version also features the Sensurround warning and the R-rating at the start of the film – perhaps those were on prints only.

    Shout say they performed a 2K transfer of "original film elements" rather than original camera negative, so perhaps they used a 70mm version for some reason.

    A lot of the shots definitely look a bit cramped on the sides…

    I am certain the film was not R upon release as I was thirteen when it came out and the only question the cashier asked is if I wanted Loge seating? …
    [​IMG]

  125. B-ROLL

    I am certain the film was not R upon release as I was thirteen when it came out and the only question the cashier asked is if I wanted Loge seating? …
    [​IMG]

    Absolutely – sorry for the confusion. It's a PG-rating at the start of the film. My mistake entirely.

    Perhaps I was confusing it with the far-better (in my opinion) Charlton Heston 70s disaster epic: Two-Minute Warning!

  126. I wrote to Shout regarding the incorrect aspect ratio – they're making a replacement disc available. All credit to them for dealing with this quickly.

    The email was as follows:

    During the authoring process of Earthquake [Collector’s Edition], an error in outputting the master changed the aspect ratio of the theatrical version of the film (disc 1 only). It was not caught in QC, we apologize for the error and are making a replacement disc available correcting it.

    Please go the website below and follow the instructions there to receive a replacement disc. Note: You will need to upload a copy of your receipt.

    https://www.discshipment.com

    If you have any questions about the status of your replacement disc shipment, please reach out to the following email address directly: [email protected].

    The corrected disc can be identified by a "R1," which appears around the ring of disc 1.

    Customer Service
    Shout! Factory
    2034 Armacost Ave., 1st Floor
    Los Angeles, CA 90025
    [email protected]

  127. Will*B

    I wrote to Shout regarding the incorrect aspect ratio – they're making a replacement disc available. All credit to them for dealing with this quickly.

    The email was as follows:

    During the authoring process of Earthquake [Collector’s Edition], an error in outputting the master changed the aspect ratio of the theatrical version of the film (disc 1 only). It was not caught in QC, we apologize for the error and are making a replacement disc available correcting it.

    Please go the website below and follow the instructions there to receive a replacement disc. Note: You will need to upload a copy of your receipt.

    https://www.discshipment.com

    If you have any questions about the status of your replacement disc shipment, please reach out to the following email address directly: [email protected].

    The corrected disc can be identified by a "R1," which appears around the ring of disc 1.

    Customer Service
    Shout! Factory
    2034 Armacost Ave., 1st Floor
    Los Angeles, CA 90025
    [email protected]

    I love it that smaller labels are still dedicating to fixing problems. There are a lot of the large studios who could care less about physical media at this point. Kudos to Shout! Factory.

  128. Brian Kidd

    I love it that smaller labels are still dedicating to fixing problems. There are a lot of the large studios who could care less about physical media at this point. Kudos to Shout! Factory.

    You are so right. Today I sent for the replacement discs of both Earthquake and Nixon.

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