www.hifiklapper.nl - a fraud??

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  1. Hartwig Hanser

    Hartwig Hanser Second Unit

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    I ordered a subwoofer from this seemingly respectable company via website. Since it was a special order, they demanded payment in advance. After 6 months of waiting I canceled the order which was confirmed by them. But they do not sent me my money back! Now I wrote a last mail to them after that I will try to take legal advice. Has anybody experiences with this company? Has anybody useful hints for me how to proceed?

    Thanks in advance,

    Hartwig
     
  2. Chu Gai

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    No, but if you ordered by credit card, inform your company. They should be able to credit your account.
     
  3. Hartwig Hanser

    Hartwig Hanser Second Unit

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    No I did not order via credit card, they do not accept that. I payed via my bank account. Still no money back.[​IMG]
     
  4. mark alan

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    I think that you can pretty much guarantee that you will never see you money back. And your chances of legal action working are about 0%.

    Forget about it, and in the future, only use credit cards for purchase. I personally wouldn't even use paypal for any purchase over $20. Paypal gives you no legal protection either.
     
  5. Robert Cowan

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    they show they carry martin logan,rel and kef? they shouldnt be allowed to sell those online. that yells scam right there.
     
  6. Lee Carbray

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    Hey check out the picture of the sub they use to mark the subwoofers section. It's a little small but it looks like the pb2-isd pic from SVS's homepage.

    top right
     
  7. mark alan

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    Unless your DA's office is in the Netherlands, that probably won't help much.
     
  8. Robert Cowan

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    i honestly dont think you can do a THING. i think you can just learn from it and that's all.
     
  9. Hartwig Hanser

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    Thanks for your input. Obviously I was a bit naive, but it is the first time I have such trouble.

    First I should have mentioned that I live in Germany. I have contacted the appropriate place (Amtsgericht) and I can (and will) put the legal machinery in gear through them. The Netherlands, where Hifiklapper is, ist EU, as is Germany, so there are simplified procedures.
    First I try something that is called ombudsmann, a kind of inbetweener (?) that tries to mediate. I found one specialized for online shopping trouble. And the best is, it does not cost me. Should this fail, I will take the legal way.

    Please spread the word that this shop is not to be trusted!

    Hartwig
     
  10. mark alan

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    Any place that does not accept credit cards should be a serious warning to you. A very small site, with few transactions may have a legitimate reason (cost) for not being set up to handle credit cards. A site which appears to be very large (like the one you went to) has NO reason not to accept credit cards. It screams fraud to me.
     

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