Warner: Citizen Kane digital restoration problem

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  1. Rain

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    Well, apparently nobody else is going to post this, so here I go.
    Apparently there is a problem with one scene in on the Kane DVD where it appears that the digital clean up program or whatever mistook some raindrops for film grain and erased them. The result is a rather odd looking rainfall where the drops appear to disappear part way down the frame.
    The Big Picture noticed this and it is reference in their review, which is http://www.thebigpicturedvd.com/cgi-bin/master/viewer.cgi/Citizen_Kane[​IMG]
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  2. ScottR

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    I totally agree with this. You can even see the exact moment where the mistake occurs as Bernstein walks towards the window...as he is walking, you can plainly see a window with rain pouring, but as he nears the window the raindrops suddenly disappear. There is also a moment where part of the window frame "jumps" out of place for a brief second. This disc is otherwise beautiful, but it would be practically flawless if this were corrected.
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    I agree. This should be fixed. I am flabbergasted as to how this could have been missed, but the disc really ought to be fixed and reissued.
     
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    DVNR in the hands of a less-than-perfectionist operator may be the death of classics as we know them in years to come.
    There is an entire giant set of Betty Boop cartoons that have suffered this butchery, along with The Flintstones and others.
    There is a very good article at http://www.spumco.com/magazine/aa/aade01.html
     
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    DVNR wasn't used on Citizen Kane.
    Lowry's digital restoration program must have a library of what scratches and defects look like. DVNR is a totally different process...if Kane (and NxNW, Now Voyager) had it on them, the picture wouldn't look this good.
    Also, this might not be a problem with the restoration...being that Kane was made for such as low budget, they may have not addded milk to the rain to keep it visible to the camera.
    It would be nice if someone could show a comparison between the laserdisc and the DVD images of the frames.
    I just don't think Lowry Digital Images would let this slip by..after all, they went through the trouble to erase guide wires for the crashing plane in North By Northwest...
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