I am amused that George is aware I was kicked off the forum, back in 2003, for a few weeks, when I am guessing not a single other person here, other than Ron, some mods and maybe SteveGon are aware of it. A lot of interest for someone who is so "ignorant" he's not worth listening to. Of course, George is not aware I was dealing with a particularly stressful point in my life as well as an (at that time) undiagnosed neurological disorder (a form of epilepsy) which was seriously affecting my behavior and in fact had become a significant threat to my life. Fortunately, a mild daily dose of anti-convulsant has pretty much cured that though I am still coping with the consequences of a lifetime of that situation. Welcome to the Club Martin. Your astute observations have gained you admission. Should we have a secret handshake? OK, as fun as this is, I think it is past time to return to thhe topic at hand. I'm currently rewatching Ordinary People, one of my all-time faves.