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I’m enjoying this.

I feel like this is more of a “me” issue than a “show” issue but this is the first Trek thing I’ve watched where it’s almost felt like catch-up to me. By that I mean, this show seems very clearly inspired visually and tonally by the work Dave Filoni did on animated Star Wars shows, particularly Rebels. That’s a fantastic show so it’s a good choice to emulate but it’s a little different for me to see Trek following someone else’s footsteps.

I also expected that the show was going to be aimed at a much younger audience than this appears to be. I was thinking it was going to be more for five year olds but it feels very much like a harder PG, particularly the first installments before they find the ship.

But those aren’t really complaints about the show, more observations about my expectations vs realities. I am enjoying what I’ve seen so far and looking forward to next week’s installment.
 

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Dal is a very annoying character with his know-it-all attitude and stupid rash decision making (that of course is inevitably and obviously going to keep getting them into trouble). I hope the show outgrows that pretty quickly.
 
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I'm sorry, but the worst part of the show is the high pitched child voice on the largest character. It makes me want to fwow up!
 

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I’m enjoying this.

I feel like this is more of a “me” issue than a “show” issue but this is the first Trek thing I’ve watched where it’s almost felt like catch-up to me. By that I mean, this show seems very clearly inspired visually and tonally by the work Dave Filoni did on animated Star Wars shows, particularly Rebels. That’s a fantastic show so it’s a good choice to emulate but it’s a little different for me to see Trek following someone else’s footsteps.

Well, let's be real about this. Trek has all but abdicated it's reputation as the leader in things like this. Aside from DS9 and S3 of Enterprise, they waited until the mid 2010's for true serialized story telling. Berman Era Trek abdicated talking about a lot of real world social issues. Discovery is trying to play catch up with all of that and they're getting hammered on social media. I'm not shocked they're inspired by something else.

Dal is a very annoying character with his know-it-all attitude and stupid rash decision making (that of course is inevitably and obviously going to keep getting them into trouble). I hope the show outgrows that pretty quickly.

I haven't seen this past episode yet, but that description of Dal fits Mariner over on Lower Decks perfectly. I would imagine the attitude and decision making fits a child (basically) much better than a Starfleet officer, but hey...let me watch the episode and then I'll be able to speak to it much better.
 

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I haven't seen this past episode yet, but that description of Dal fits Mariner over on Lower Decks perfectly. I would imagine the attitude and decision making fits a child (basically) much better than a Starfleet officer, but hey...let me watch the episode and then I'll be able to speak to it much better.
He's reminiscent of Ezra Bridger in the first couple seasons of Rebels, though somehow even more reckless.
 
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He's reminiscent of Ezra Bridgers in the first couple seasons of Rebels, though somehow even more reckless.

I have not seen Rebels. Never made it through Clones Wars. Abandoned Bad Batch. Don't remember anything of Droids and Ewoks. I barely made it through the Freemaker shorts and the Lego shows on Disney+.
 

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I watched the third episode last night. Josh, I have not seen much of the Star Wars animated shows, I saw some clips at my cousin’s house when he was playing the dvd for the kids. Those were I think the Clone Wars. But I see the influence from that and from the prequel Star Wars films too.

For me it’s more about the influence of the visual style of the aliens and not about the story telling, as I don’t have a frame of reference to compare that anyway.

I liked the design of the interior of the Protostar. It’s very much of the style of the modern Star Trek shows and films.

As far as this recent episode goes, I agree, Dal is an impulsive child on a selfish quest to escape from the life he was trapped in. I figure though his actions were shown to show his character realize he is in very deep and he needed help to get out. And he is likely going to be learning through out future episodes. What I’m not sure about is Gwynn? She’s nicknamed the Prodigy? She seems to be a very important character who will reveal something or change their situation.
 

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Ugh, what is the midseason finale crap? I thought we were past this. A ten episode season should not need time off in between. It’s brutal for momentum and engagement, and disrespectful of a paying audience.
 

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I'm guessing it probably has to do with the upcoming December-interval, which typically results in lower viewership-numbers (due to the holidays and people traveling, etc.) -- if they'd started the season earlier than they did, they'd probably have done it in a straight 10 weeks, there.
 

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That would be easier to accept had Discovery not run uninterrupted in the same period this year, and by all appearances, this year.

That was supposed to be the hook for streaming. Not worrying about linear viewership numbers and network scheduling on a non linear platform. I loved having Discovery running through the holidays last year. It gave me the choice of whether to watch it on its normal night or delay it to a more convenient time. Not everyone celebrates every holiday in the same way at the same time and I thought it was a breath of fresh air last year that they recognized that by airing on 12/24 and 12/31.
 

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That would be easier to accept had Discovery not run uninterrupted in the same period this year, and by all appearances, this year.

That was supposed to be the hook for streaming. Not worrying about linear viewership numbers and network scheduling on a non linear platform. I loved having Discovery running through the holidays last year. It gave me the choice of whether to watch it on its normal night or delay it to a more convenient time. Not everyone celebrates every holiday in the same way at the same time and I thought it was a breath of fresh air last year that they recognized that by airing on 12/24 and 12/31.

I thought the same thing...why break up a season this short in the first place? You lose all momentum with the story, have to do brand new promotion AND now compete with new Discovery on the same service.

Maybe they learning no one watched those episodes on the holidays last year and everyone "caught up" in January ahead of the finale? I mean, there has to be a reason, no matter how goofy the logic may be. Even Mandalorian aired straight through December last year.
 

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Maybe they learning no one watched those episodes on the holidays last year and everyone "caught up" in January ahead of the finale?

And if so, what’s the problem with that?

I get that a 26 episode season will occasionally need to take a week or two off to manage production realities, but for ten episodes, it just feels like they’re jerking the audience around for no good reason. Long pauses in short seasons is almost always a recipe for audience disengagement.

It doesn’t seem like the reasoning is to prevent two shows from running at once since it’ll come back when Discovery is still on.

Maybe they’re just not ready with the other episodes but I would have rather they held the season until they could start and not have to stop.
 

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For me, there's nothing at all wrong with people watching on their own schedule. I do it all the time, and like you said, that was one of the great things about streaming.

I would like to understand what's going on. Maybe someone will ask the question at some point and we'll all know.

I personally want things to run uninterrupted for their entire season. When they don't, you're right, audiences tune out. The incredibly long hiatuses for This Is Us made me check out early in 2020 and I haven't been back since. And I was a Day One watcher of that show.
 

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Dal is a very annoying character with his know-it-all attitude and stupid rash decision making (that of course is inevitably and obviously going to keep getting them into trouble). I hope the show outgrows that pretty quickly.
One of the fun things -- for me -- is that the premise precludes Gene Roddenberry's idealized vision of a more evolved society. This is a motley crew of fugitives feeling their way forward. It allows for character arcs that wouldn't be as plausible for decorated Starfleet officers. And part of that is confronting the characters with their flaws so they can hopefully grow and do better.

I'm sorry, but the worst part of the show is the high pitched child voice on the largest character. It makes me want to fwow up!
Rok-Tahk is voiced by Rylee Alazraqui -- daughter of the actor who plays Deputy Garcia on "Reno 911!" -- who is only a couple years older than her character. As she gets older, the character's voice will probably get less childish too.

What I did find interesting was that, before the characters had access to the Protostar's universal translator, Rok-Tahk's "real voice" was much more in keeping with her large physical form. So when the universal translator adapts language for the recipient's understanding, it also apparently builds in vocal clues as to the speaker's age and demeanor.

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I'm guessing it probably has to do with the upcoming December-interval, which typically results in lower viewership-numbers (due to the holidays and people traveling, etc.) -- if they'd started the season earlier than they did, they'd probably have done it in a straight 10 weeks, there.
Those considerations definitely made since in the era of traditionally scheduled programming, when not being home meant setting a VCR or a DVR or missing out entirely. But once an episode is available to stream, it's available to stream.

Paramount+ still has less new original content than a Netflix, so maybe this is a way of stretching it throughout the year and dissuading people from unsubscribing.

That being said, a one month break isn't that bad. Given all of the shows I'm watching at the moment, one less for a few weeks is honestly a relief.
 

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Alright, “Starstruck.” Really concise and encompassing definition of the Federation from Janeway. Also a number of easter eggs in the projections including, but not limited to, Voyager, Defiant, Spock and a Constitution ship.

After their escape last week, this was a nice contained adventure so we could start to see these kids work together. It was imperfect and they struggled, but that was the idea: they’re not Starfleet and don’t even know which way starboard is. I bet the target audience is in the same boat, meaning this show is speaking right to them.

I have zero issue with the way anyone in the episode acted. These are kids with no training who were basically slaves a day ago in their chronology. Of course they’re going to be rough around the edges and abrasive. Picard was a complete dick early in TNG, lest we all forget. But he evolved over seven seasons, four movies and one season of Picard. Let’s give these characters the same time to evolve and revisit this convo again in 2050.
 

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I thought when the Diviner was speaking to Gwynn, he was addressing her as, "Progeny"!

Maybe my ears aren't working 🙂.
 

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Maybe the winter break is to keep subscribers on longer who would sign up for a month or two and hope to binge the series then end the subscription. But that would make more sense after the season ends.
 

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The break is also so that there's no overlap with Discovery.

It was stated early in the game that the aim was to have a new Star Trek episode every week of the year.
 

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