Chris
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Just finished "Justice". Ok, now I'm openly rooting for the bad guy. So, the "Justice League of America" veiled is basically a bunch of crazed terrorist.
Aquaman comes back into the picture admitting he was out sinking whaling ships and leaving crews out... they raid a Luthor facility (33.1) and kill, by my count, 22 different people. Some with arrows, some snapping necks, some beaten to death. Wow, what a track record.
Then, they blow up property. I get that the show is supposed to be showing how terrible Lex is, but how can this be anything but vindication of the idea that the 'good guys' are psychotic vigilantes?
Adam, you above said hey, everyone deserves to be turned over to the authorities and cops.. and yet here, the heros go all ballistic on a bunch of peons, kill a bunch and decide to take some murderous shots at Lex with an arrow... there wasn't a cop or a judge anywhere that I saw..
Lex gives the "fighting for justice and democracy" I don't know if his goals are that noble, but those are basically the point... super heros who take pot shots to kill people and sink ships and blow up private property.. yeah, that's not justice, that's psychotic.
Hell, even in the comics, the Justice League worked with real law enforcement to turn people over and to make their case..
I know, I know how the story ends, and how it's being written.. but whoever is writing the justification for Lex is doing a hell of a lot better job then those writing the lame storyline for Clark and the goons.
I just "feel" Lex's side to this story and I just have almost no compassion for Clark's. And it's not that I really want to root for the bad guy, it's just that this storyline is such that I don't see the proposed "bad guy" as acting out of truly evil intent.
I'm reminded of Ender's Game and sequels. As Ender sits and and explains to his class (in "Speaker of the Dead") he points out that the actor didn't know that his end result was "evil" until it was really laid out to him, because he didn't have the facts. So, when Ender killed all of the hive everywhere, he didn't know until much later what had been done.
While the act itself may have been "evil" viewed later, the person who did it didn't do it out of evil intentions. Lex doesn't strike me in any way as someone acting out of truly evil intentions.. not yet, at least.
I guess that's what infuriates me about the way Clark is written so much.. he knows, he has to know, that a lot of these actions -are- evil, he knows all the facts Lex doesn't, and it doesn't prevent him from doing goonish things.
*laugh* going back to Ender's type thought, Lex strikes me a lot like "Peter Wiggin" in the shadow series.. yes, some of his actions may seem "wrong" but his end goal, the one he is persuing, seems like the one of the best cause.. in the end, the world may be best without vigilante superheros.
(Admin note - spoiler added for Ender's Game.)
Aquaman comes back into the picture admitting he was out sinking whaling ships and leaving crews out... they raid a Luthor facility (33.1) and kill, by my count, 22 different people. Some with arrows, some snapping necks, some beaten to death. Wow, what a track record.
Then, they blow up property. I get that the show is supposed to be showing how terrible Lex is, but how can this be anything but vindication of the idea that the 'good guys' are psychotic vigilantes?
Adam, you above said hey, everyone deserves to be turned over to the authorities and cops.. and yet here, the heros go all ballistic on a bunch of peons, kill a bunch and decide to take some murderous shots at Lex with an arrow... there wasn't a cop or a judge anywhere that I saw..
Lex gives the "fighting for justice and democracy" I don't know if his goals are that noble, but those are basically the point... super heros who take pot shots to kill people and sink ships and blow up private property.. yeah, that's not justice, that's psychotic.
Hell, even in the comics, the Justice League worked with real law enforcement to turn people over and to make their case..
I know, I know how the story ends, and how it's being written.. but whoever is writing the justification for Lex is doing a hell of a lot better job then those writing the lame storyline for Clark and the goons.
I just "feel" Lex's side to this story and I just have almost no compassion for Clark's. And it's not that I really want to root for the bad guy, it's just that this storyline is such that I don't see the proposed "bad guy" as acting out of truly evil intent.
I'm reminded of Ender's Game and sequels. As Ender sits and and explains to his class (in "Speaker of the Dead") he points out that the actor didn't know that his end result was "evil" until it was really laid out to him, because he didn't have the facts. So, when Ender killed all of the hive everywhere, he didn't know until much later what had been done.
While the act itself may have been "evil" viewed later, the person who did it didn't do it out of evil intentions. Lex doesn't strike me in any way as someone acting out of truly evil intentions.. not yet, at least.
I guess that's what infuriates me about the way Clark is written so much.. he knows, he has to know, that a lot of these actions -are- evil, he knows all the facts Lex doesn't, and it doesn't prevent him from doing goonish things.
*laugh* going back to Ender's type thought, Lex strikes me a lot like "Peter Wiggin" in the shadow series.. yes, some of his actions may seem "wrong" but his end goal, the one he is persuing, seems like the one of the best cause.. in the end, the world may be best without vigilante superheros.
(Admin note - spoiler added for Ender's Game.)