Slasher Movies (1 Viewer)

[Emcee]

It's October. Let's talk about our favorite slasher movies. There's a host to pick from, several different franchises, and stand-alone films.

Any takers?

 

[Tommy R]

Just Before Dawn - Super atmospheric and beautifully filmed in my home state of Oregon. One of my favorite slashers.

Madman - Kind of a weird one, but has a super-low-budget charm. And I LOVE the music!

As far as franchises go, I’m most partial to Friday the 13th, though the first two Halloween films are better. As a franchise Halloween is a shit-show after 2. (Though 4 and H20 have some guilty pleasure aspects for me.)

 

[DFurr]

I'll vote for the Friday the 13th franchise. #1, #3 and #4 are my favorite 3. Halloween 1 & 2 get a vote from me also but Friday is still my favorite. Friday part 3 in 3D is my all time favorite. The 3D effects are amazing.

 

[TravisR]

Halloween is my favorite movie but in terms of overall series, I prefer Friday The 13th especially Part 2, The Final Chapter and Jason Lives.

 

[Emcee]

I grew up on these movies, especially the HALLOWEEN franchise. I'm most familiar with HALLOWEEN 4 and HALLOWEEN 5, which are the two that AMC seemed to show the most on the nights I actually got to watch the movies. I occasionally saw HALLOWEEN and HALLOWEEN 2, but not near as much.

I remember the one time we watched HALLOWEEN 3: SEASON OF THE WITCH, and my family and I were very upset that Michael Myers was nowhere to be found.

We watched HALLOWEEN: RESURRECTION a lot as well, but it was never a favorite.

It was years before I ever got to see HALLOWEEN H2O, but I liked it when I saw it.

 

[Ejanss]

I remember the one time we watched HALLOWEEN 3: SEASON OF THE WITCH, and my family and I were very upset that Michael Myers was nowhere to be found.

Okay: Fans of the movie have to explain this EVERY SINGLE TIME, but just so we can get it out of the way in the thread early--

John Carpenter hated sequels. He didn't even bother to direct Halloween II, and didn't think it was necessary.
However, Universal now had a cottage industry in re-releasing the '78 movie every October (ah, the pre-VHS days when studios could do theatrical re-releases on the spur of the moment during a slow week), and needed more movies with "Halloween" in the title.
So, Carpenter suggested attaching the brandname to an anthology of standalone Halloween stories...And, being the world's biggest fanboy of the Prof. Quatermass series, hired Nigel Kneale to write the first one.
Kneale took his name off the script a few rewrites later, but what's this movie got that "The Quatermass Conclusion" ain't got? (Including a creepy annoying children's-jingle)

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Me, I don't have much affection for the slasher genre, but I'll mention one that never gets enough love: TERROR TRAIN.
Not only one of the Jamie Lee Curtis pantheon, a then-unknown David Copperfield cameo, and a unique "costume party" twist to the killer-whodunit...But also from the brief unexplained phase when Stanley Kubrick cinematographer John Alcott was dabbling in B-movies during the early 80's (qv. "The Beastmaster"), and creates the Most Ominous. Train. In Movies. Ever.

 

[Emcee]

Okay: Fans of the movie have to explain this EVERY SINGLE TIME, but just so we can get it out of the way in the thread early--

John Carpenter hated sequels. He didn't even bother to direct Halloween II, and didn't think it was necessary.
However, Universal now had a cottage industry in re-releasing the '78 movie every October (ah, the pre-VHS days when studios could do theatrical re-releases on the spur of the moment during a slow week), and needed more movies with "Halloween" in the title.
So, Carpenter suggested attaching the brandname to an anthology of standalone Halloween stories...And, being the world's biggest fanboy of the Prof. Quatermass series, hired Nigel Kneale to write the first one.
Kneale took his name off the script a few rewrites later, but what's this movie got that "The Quatermass Conclusion" ain't got? (Including a creepy annoying children's-jingle)

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Me, I don't have much affection for the slasher genre, but I'll mention one that never gets enough love: TERROR TRAIN.
Not only one of the Jamie Lee Curtis pantheon, a then-unknown David Copperfield cameo, and a unique "costume party" twist to the killer-whodunit...But also from the brief unexplained phase when Stanley Kubrick cinematographer John Alcott was dabbling in B-movies during the early 80's (qv. "The Beastmaster"), and creates the Most Ominous. Train. In Movies. Ever.

Oh, I knew all that about HALLOWEEN III: SEASON OF THE WITCH already. John Carpenter and Debra Hill wanted to "move on" from Michael Myers after the second film (which neither wanted to do anyway) and do other things.

Third film, subtitled SEASON OF THE WITCH, was their attempt to start an anthology of films, in a similar fashion to what AMERICAN HORROR STORY does today. I liked SEASON OF THE WITCH when I re-watched it again like three years ago, but it really is an outlier in the HALLOWEEN franchise. The title is actually misleading. They should've took off the "III" part, and just did HALLOWEEN: SEASON OF THE WITCH, or just sliced HALLOWEEN off altogether. But they wanted the brand and that's how they sold it.

The movie was not a major hit, basically because fans wanted to see Michael Myers, and it took six years for the franchise to bring him back in HALLOWEEN 4: THE RETURN OF MICHAEL MYERS, which spells out the plot in the title. The fourth movie actually ends up being a favorite of the franchise lovers, and the one I most fondly remember from my youth. That one and its direct sequel, HALLOWEEN 5: THE REVENGE OF MICHAEL MYERS.

 

[Emcee]

Okay: Fans of the movie have to explain this EVERY SINGLE TIME, but just so we can get it out of the way in the thread early--

John Carpenter hated sequels. He didn't even bother to direct Halloween II, and didn't think it was necessary.
However, Universal now had a cottage industry in re-releasing the '78 movie every October (ah, the pre-VHS days when studios could do theatrical re-releases on the spur of the moment during a slow week), and needed more movies with "Halloween" in the title.
So, Carpenter suggested attaching the brandname to an anthology of standalone Halloween stories...And, being the world's biggest fanboy of the Prof. Quatermass series, hired Nigel Kneale to write the first one.
Kneale took his name off the script a few rewrites later, but what's this movie got that "The Quatermass Conclusion" ain't got? (Including a creepy annoying children's-jingle)

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Me, I don't have much affection for the slasher genre, but I'll mention one that never gets enough love: TERROR TRAIN.
Not only one of the Jamie Lee Curtis pantheon, a then-unknown David Copperfield cameo, and a unique "costume party" twist to the killer-whodunit...But also from the brief unexplained phase when Stanley Kubrick cinematographer John Alcott was dabbling in B-movies during the early 80's (qv. "The Beastmaster"), and creates the Most Ominous. Train. In Movies. Ever.

I've never seen TERROR TRAIN, and don't think I've ever seen any reviews about it or anything. I might have to give it a gander.

 

[Malcolm R]

So, Carpenter suggested attaching the brandname to an anthology of standalone Halloween stories.

Apparently the marketing department dropped the ball on promoting and explaining that concept.

A better title choice would have been Season of the Witch: A Halloween Movie.

I'm not sure I've ever watched Halloween III from start to finish, though I've seen all the other films in the franchise (and Halloween is probably my favorite slasher franchise).

 

[Emcee]

Apparently the marketing department dropped the ball on promoting and explaining that concept.

A better title choice would have been Season of the Witch: A Halloween Movie.

I'm not sure I've ever watched Halloween III from start to finish, though I've seen all the other films in the franchise (and Halloween is probably my favorite slasher franchise).

HALLOWEEN 3 is good as a stand alone film. It's been a while since I watched it, but it was good.

I would just call it SEASON OF THE WITCH instead, even though "witch" itself is a little out of place because there isn't any "witches". I guess "witch" is for "witchcraft"?

 

[Emcee]

Like I've said throughout this thread, I am most familiar with the HALLOWEEN franchise. I've been toying with the idea of doing a little ranking of the movies from the original franchise, which I consider to be the eight films released between 1978 and 2002.

To clarify, this ranking will not include the Rob Zombie reboot films nor the 2018 continuation of the original 1978 story line, simply because I don't care for the former and I haven't seen the latter.

Here's my ranking from worst-to-best:

#8 ─ HALLOWEEN: RESURRECTION (2002)
This film commits a lot of franchise sins. Riding high off the success and fan reception of Halloween H20, the producers decided the weren't about to let their gash horse die. This sequel picks up three years after the previous film, and whips away that ceremonial ending of H20. Within the first ten minutes of the movie, they kill Laurie Strode in the most ridiculous way possible. The whole aftermath of college students spending the night in the Myers house was decent, but the idea would've worked better as a stand-alone film. The acting is pretty bad, the story execution is weak, and Busta Rhymes is horrid. I saw this movie a lot as a kid, but it definitely isn't the best that's why it's at the bottom.

#7 ─ HALLOWEEN 5: THE REVENGE OF MICHAEL MYERS (1989)
Similar to the previous entry, this movie craps on everything that came before it. Where Halloween 4 returned to form, brought Michael back, and emerged as a fan favorite of the franchise, Halloween 5 just messes a lot of stuff up. The ending given to us at the end of the fourth film is push aside, and then Jamie Lloyd (the young heroine of the previous movie) spends over half of this film as a mute. Her foster sister, Rachel, is killed unexpectedly, which angers a lot of fans because she was she well-liked in the previous movie. This movie pushes us further into the Thorn Trilogy story line, and that in itself is a mess. Tina Williams is probably the worst character in slasher history, and it was a horrible mistake making her the "heroine" of this chapter. The acting here is bad and the layout is too. I watched this movie a lot as a kid, and while it does hold that nostalgia, I cannot deny that this movie is bad.

#6 ─ HALLOWEEN: THE CURSE OF MICHAEL MYERS (1995)
The concluding chapter of the Thorn Trilogy. Goodness, if this movie isn't a complete and utter mess all the way around. Not along is the whole Cult of Thorn plot completely insulting to the mythology of Michael Myers, but the characters here are pretty bad as well. While I don't get on the whole "Paul Rudd is awful" bandwagon, I do think he is a little creepy here, and not in a good way, either. The story line is all over the place, and you really don't know who you're following. I'm glad Donald Pleasance was well enough to come back for a little cameo, even though his presence here is pretty much skidded over. I wasn't too familiar with this chapter as a child, but I have seen it a lot in years since. On a positive note, I do think this film offers some very good atmosphere, colors, shadows, and suspense. It's one of the best portrayals and looks of Michael Myers too. That's what pushes this above the two below it. Beyond that, this movie needs a lot of work, and it still wouldn't be good probably.

#5 ─ HALLOWEEN III: SEASON OF THE WITCH (1982)
This movie doesn't need to be in the Halloween franchise. This movie doesn't need Halloween in the title. And that's simply because it taunts this movie's reputation. By slapping "Halloween" in this title, it automatically makes everyone think this is another Michael Myers story. It isn't. For a long time, I was offended that this chapter doesn't include Myers, but as I've matured, I've come to understand and appreciate where the producers were wanted to go with this franchise. They wanted to move away from Myers and his story line, and make the series an anthology. That was a bold move for this franchise, and while I enjoy Michael Myers, I must say that I am personally intrigued where this series could've gone using the anthology route. Aside from all that, this movie has really good story in pushing Halloween back to its witchcraft roots. Basically, the setup is a corporate leader trying to murder children on Halloween night. Colonel Cochran is one of the best movie villains there has been. The score is sharp, the acting is good, and twists are surprising. I thoroughly enjoy this movie.

#4 ─ HALLOWEEN H20: 20 YEARS LATER (1998)
Another retcon story. I have a weird relationship with this entry. While I like that Jamie Lee Curtis as Laurie Strode is back at the helm, I hate that the Jamie Lloyd story line from the fourth film is axed from the continuity. I actually like how Laurie's moved to California and has assumed a new identity as head mistress of a private school to hide from Michael. There are a few periods through the middle part of this movie where it drags, but overall it is good. Aside from the mask fiasco that haunts this chapter, I actually enjoy this version of Michael Myers pretty well, and I think it perfectly fits the tone this movie goes for. A lot of fans critique this movie as being too Scream-esque, but I don't really get into all that. It's from the same era and that is noticeable, but that's about it. The final act of this movie is top-notch. From the moment Laurie Strode walks back into the school, locks the gate behind, and hollers "Michael!", this movie takes you on one heck of a ride. The acting is decent throughout and I like LL Cool J in this too. This isn't really a scary movie, but one for the fans.

#3 ─ HALLOWEEN II (1981)
The rest of the night he came home. I like how this movie picks up only minutes after the conclusion of the original. It does a well enough job of maintaining the same "feel" of the original, although this sequel is considerably more gory. Most of the characters here are just around to be killed, and the story goes in a few directions that probably should've been avoided. I know a lot of people are on the fence about the Laure/Michael brother/sister story-arc, but I think it was okay, but it just went a little too far. Some wrinkles could've been ironed out better, but I don't have any major beef with that particular angle. Myers himself here is a little stiff, but more brutal. This movie seems like it was inspired by the Friday the 13th craze, which is ironic considering Halloween fueled that franchise. I don't like how Jamie Lee Curtis looks here, nor do I appreciate her being relegated to the last act. This a very good sequel, but it does shift the tone and story line a little. And whether that works for you will depend on your preferences.

#2 ─ HALLOWEEN 4: THE RETURN OF MICHAEL MYERS (1988)
The tenth anniversary of the night he came home. This movie, in my opinion, does an excellent job of capturing the mood of the original. The mood for this movie is set by the opening credits; all the Halloween scenery is beautiful and spooky. Jamie Lee Curtis was finished with the movies at this point, so Danielle Harris was brought in as her younger daughter Jamie Lloyd. I think making Jamie, a seven-year-old girl, the lead of this movie was a good move. It was certainly different from other slashers, and it gives this movie it's own vibe. I also like Ellie Cornell as her foster sister Rachel, and she really shines in the scenes where she is protecting Jamie from Michael towards the end. This chapter is fueled a lot by nostalgia for me. I remember watching it every year when AMC would air these movies in a marathon. The kills are good, the acting is good, the atmosphere is good, and it's just a all-around good slasher. It might be the best, but it's darn near close.

#1 ─ HALLOWEEN (1978)
Nothing beats the original. I wasn't too well versed on this movie as a child, but I've watched a lot since then. Based solely on simplicity and creativity, this movie is one of the best films there's ever been really. When you look at the small budget, it's surprising they accomplished as much as they did. For the producers to secure Donald Pleasance was a treat in itself, and for them to discover Jamie Lee Curtis was a victory. She emerged as the definitive Scream Queen of the budding slasher genre. I like how this movie uses little gore, but relies heavy on old cinematic tricks to convey real suspense and terror. The atmosphere is great and the acting, aside from a few missteps, is pretty good throughout. This is the definitive slasher and it ushered in the genre. Nothing beats the original.

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