Samsung HD players at CEDIA

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BD-UP5000 Duo HD Player
Samsung's BD-UP5000 Duo HD Player supports both Blu-ray and HD DVD formats as well as their interactive technologies, HDi and BD-Java. With the use of HQV video processing power and 1080p Full HD video output, the truest image reproduction possible can be enjoyed.
Specifications
BD-UP5000

Video

Blu-ray and HD DVD playback at content native HD resolution of 1080p/1080i/720p
• 1080p 24fps playback on Blu-ray and HD DVD
• HQV video up-conversion processing (1920x1080)
• Selectable DVD upconversion via HQV processor (720p/1080i/1080p)
Audio

Stereo and 5.1/7.1-channel audio outputs
• Coaxial and optical digital audio outputs
• Dolby® Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS®
• dts-HD HR, MA (upgradeable by firmware)
Playable Media

BD-ROM, BD-R, HD DVD, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, CD, CD-R, CD-RW
Other Features

HDMI 1.3 digital interface
• Component Video Output
• S-Video Output
• Composite Video Output
• MPEG2, VC-1, H.264, HD JPEG decoding
• BD-Java
• Full HDi capability via HD DVD
• HDMI CEC
• Ethernet port
• Coaxial and optical digital audio outputs
Estimated Selling Price
$999
Availability
4Q 2007

BD-P2400 and BD-P1400 Blu-ray Player
Samsung's BD-P2400 and BD-P1400 offer full compatibility with 24 movie frames per second playback. Beyond standard Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus and DTS audio playback, both the BD-P2400 and BD-P1400 work with lossless formats for a variety of clear, full-bodied sound options. The BD-P2400 also features a built-in Hollywood Quality Video (HQV) processor, a powerful unit similar to those used by Hollywood production studios, which enables true 1080i to 1080p HD de-interlacing for the best HD images possible — even from DVD formats.
Specifications
BD-P2400

BD-P1400

Video

Blu-ray playback at content native HD resolution of 1080p/1080i/720p
• HQV video selectable up-conversion processing
• 1080p 24 Fs / 60 Fs
• Selectable DVD upconversion via HQV processor (720p/1080i/1080p)


Blu-ray playback at content native HD resolution of 1080p/1080i/720p
• 1080p 24 Fs / 60 Fs
• Selectable DVD upconversion via HQV processor (720p/1080i/1080p)
Audio

Stereo and 5.1/7.1channel audio outputs
• Coaxial and optical digital audio outputs
• Dolby® Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD
• dts-HD HR, MA (upgradeable by firmware)


Stereo and 5.1/7.1-channel audio outputs
• Coaxial and optical digital audio outputs
• Dolby® Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, dts-HD HR
Playable Media

BD-ROM, DVD-ROM, DVD-R (V-mode only), DVD-RW (V/VR mode), Audio CD, CD-R, CD-RW


BD-ROM, DVD-ROM, DVD-R(V mode only), DVD-RW (V/VR mode), Audio CD, CD-R, CD-RW
Other Features

HDMI 1.3 digital interface (1080p/1080i/720p)
• MPEG2, VC-1, H.264, HD JPEG decoding
• BD Java
• HDMI, Component Video, S-Video and Composite video outputs
• HDMI CEC
• Ethernet port


HDMI 1.3 digital interface (1080p/1080i/720p)
• MPEG2, VC-1, H.264, HD JPEG decoding
• BD Java
• HDMI, Component Video, S-Video outputs
• HDMI CEC
• Ethernet port
Estimated Selling Price
$599
$499
Availability
November 2007
September 2007
 

Todd H

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I'm SERIOUSLY considering the BD-UP5000. Hopefully it can be found online for around $700-$800.
 

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Adam.
Hope you and the gang are having fun over there, (green with envy)


Are these Samsung players certified by the HD-DVD group and therefore use the HD-DVD logo (which was not the case with the previous LG player).
 

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Nothing yet. It wasn't in their press release, so I am going to assume no. The show floor opens tomorrow, so I will be able to get an answer in the next day or two.

The new Samsung combo fully meets the HD DVD spec (ethernet, HDi, etc).
 

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Are these units are still decoding HD audio internally or can they pass the full bitstream out to a compatible receiver?
 

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Since they are HDMI 1.3 if they can't now, I am assuming at some point in the future they will be able to. In talking to receiver and HD player vendors as well as Dolby reps, it seems like this ability is overrated. Every single person I have spoken with has said it doesn't matter if the player decodes or the receiver decodes the bitstream.
 

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That's definitely good to know. I've been looking at upgrading my receiver recently and have been wondering how much benefit there is to external decoding.
 

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Well if I understand correctly on board decoding on player is terrific! If the player does all the decoding I don't need the latest receiver as long as it can receive the decoded signal. so either 5.1/7.1 inputs or capable or receiving multiple PCM tracks through HDMI (only newer models but a few out there already). Therefore no need to wait for latest receiver to enjoy HD audio. Better yet when they are out we can get a good deal on those "older" receivers that cannot decode these new fancy HD audio signals but who cares as long as they can take the already decoded signal from the player
 

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I have been meaning to finish off the picture area. I will try to get that done in the next day or two. I have pics of this, the Pioneer, and the Sharp to post. The Sony pics are already posted.
 

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The specs say a lot. It has FULL support for HD DVD including secondary video decoder and ethernet. No one at Samsung (or LG for that matter) could tell me with 100% certainty that BD would als be able to take advantage of this. They all "think so" but until there are actual production BD discs that support/require ethernet or a secondary video processor that can be used to test with they can't be sure. Classify this as rumor for now, but I did hear that Warner provided some BD test discs with secondary video (not sure about ethernet) for testing in Korea a few weeks ago, and no BD player was able to handle this feature. That might be able to be fixed through firmware, but I think it's telling that neither combo player is marketed as a BD 1.1 player. At least you can use the ethernet port for firmware updates.

What "additional info" are you guys looking for?
 

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As a side note, it looks like based on what I saw at CEDIA, there are two was to meet the 1.1 profile. Built in or outboard memory. All current BD profile 1 players are required to have 64kb of onboard memory. 1.1 profile players are supposed to have 256mb of memory. Until CEDIA I assumed it was onboard as well, but it doesn't have to be. The Denon 1.1 player (the only one announced for production so far) DOES NOT have 256mb of built in memory. It relies on the SD slot on the front panel to get it's 256mb of memory. I also don't believe that it comes with the 256mb SD card. I am trying to find out if this makes it upgradable to 1.1 and it only officially becomes 1.1 after you buy and insert at least 256mb of memory, or that just having an expandable memory slot makes it 1.1 compliant. The Denon does have the secondary video decoder also required in 1.1

Please note that all HD DVD players have 256mb of memory and all have USB ports to allow this to be expanded when needed.
 

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