First off I want to say that this site kicks azz!! I think I read the "Primer for newcomers" 10 times, very good info there. Also I searched a whole bunch of older threads to learn even more. OK heres the deal I live in Canada so H/K here are damn expensive so they are not in my price range. Plus I can get a good deal on the panasonic recievers both at $320 CDN, $200 for the Yamaha. My apartment room size is 15' X 15' open to the kitchen. My cousin is gonna give me his JVC speakers (2 towers, center, 2 small bookshelves) I hope these are better than HTIB speakers!!. I dont plan to use a sub (thin walls) plus the towers have 12" woofers. I have narrowed down to three recievers: 1) Panasonic SAXR25 ($320) 2) Panasonic SAHE100 ($320) 3) a used Yamaha RXV992 ($200 but NO DTS) Thanks for the any help!! BTW I do plan to upgrade the speakers, I want a HT soon rather than later.