Mitsubishi WS-65909 vs. WS-65711

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  1. Rick Wilson

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    The WS-65711 is listed on the Mitsubishi TV site as the new model. However, it does not provide any information. I would like to know what the difference is between these 2 models. When will the new model be out? Has anyone reviewed it yet? I do not want to make the wrong decision on an expensive purchase such as this. Thanks for any assistance.

    Rick
     
  2. Kirk Gunn

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    Our local Mits dealers (Tweeter and Widescreen Store) do not have any new models out. The sales reps are claiming the prices are going up and there are no new features, but they are pushing their current stock of xx909s out the door.

    Tough time to buy an RPTV !

    The tweeter sales rep gave me the 2003 Mits catalog, I can post what the specs say when I get home tonight.
     
  3. Rick Wilson

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    Thanks for the information. I'd really be interested in the specs on the 2003's - WS-65711 particularly. I have all the specs on the 65909.

    Thanks again
     
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    Here goes...

    7" MicroFine Plus CRT's
    Electrostatic Dynamic Focus System
    Multi-Coated Lens System w/5 element Tru-Focus
    Lenticular Pitch - .52mm
    Diamond Shiel AntiGlare screen
    IEEE 1394 Network Interface
    ATSC HDTV Receiver
    HAVi System Control
    Comb Filter - 480 line 3D Y/C
    3:2 pull down
    480p displayed as 480p
    480i upconverted to 480p

    Format Modes - 480i
    Narrow - 4:3
    Standard - 16:9 Anamorphic
    Expand - 2.35 Widescreen
    Zoom - 4:3 Letterbox
    Stretch - 4:3 w/out sidebars

    Format Modes - 480p
    Narrow - 4:3 in scall
    Standard - 16:9 Anamorphic

    Format Mode - 1080i
    Standard - 16:9

    Dynamic Beam Focusing
    Dynamic White Balancing
    Dynamic Black Level Expansion

    Horizontal Resolution 1200

    Analog Inputs -
    2 Analog NTSC Cable
    1 Front SVideo
    4 Rear SVideo
    2 Components (480i/480p)
    HDTV Inputs
    1 Component 480i, 480p, 1080i
    1 RGB, RGBHV 480i, 480p, 1080i
    1 VGA input 640x480 overscanned

    Digital Inputs -
    1 Antenna RF Input w/ATSC Digital Cable
    3 IEEE394 Firewire (also output)

    From the pictures, they look the same as 55909's. Do your specs show any glaring improvements with the 55711 ?
     
  5. Rick Wilson

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    Thanks for posting this information. These specs look identical to the 65909.

    Rick
     
  6. Kirk Gunn

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    Sorry for mentioning the 55"ers but the specs for the 55711 and 65711 are the same. Have to move up to the 73711 for 9" CRT's - what a monster !
     
  7. BruceSpielbauer

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    I don't know if you are aware of the "red push" issue on Mitsubishis. In the past, it has always been possible to "tweak" the set (or to have a professional ISF calibrator tweak it), so that this is not a problem. This may be a bit premature, but reportedly Mitsubishi has made some changes, and so far, no one is quite certain how to fix the red push on the new 2003 models. (It is still early, of course.) In the past, with each new year, clever people figured it out. However, none of those tweaks from previous years (so far) have worked on the new 2003s.

    The 65909, then, has one added advantage, at the moment. There are people around who KNOW how to eliminate the red push from this set entirely, on all inputs. It can either be done by you, or by a hired calibrator. With the WS-65711, we are all in a state of "waiting" to see if this can be done.

    This may be something to think about...

    -Bruce in Chi-Town
    -Mitsubishi WS-65819, with no red push and no SVM
     
  8. Kirk Gunn

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    Bruce - on the xx909's, aren't you able to easily adjust Red push through the user menu, or is it in the Service Menu ?

    I would pray Mits does not take this functionality away in a newer model ! I would think they'd add it into their lower lines. But then again, it could be expensive to implement.

    Thanks
     
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    Kirk:

    >>> Bruce - on the xx909's, aren't you able to easily adjust Red push through the user menu, or is it in the Service Menu ? >I would pray Mits does not take this functionality away in a newer model ! I would think they'd add it into their lower lines. But then again, it could be expensive to implement.
     
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    For the other inputs, do you know if color decoding is still adjustable in the Service Menu ? And... how difficult is it to get into the Service Menu ? Do you need special tools, or is it a a combination of hotkeys to enter ?

    Thanks
     
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    Kirk:

    >>> For the other inputs, do you know if color decoding is still adjustable in the Service Menu ? >And... how difficult is it to get into the Service Menu ? Do you need special tools, or is it a a combination of hotkeys to enter ?
     

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