Greg_Y
Screenwriter
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(What follows is a rant. The rant is not directed towards the mods/owners, but to a dangerous way of thinking that I see on the HTF occasionally. My purpose is to see if there's any way to resolve what I see as a problem. One of the reasons I wrote it is because there is so much creative analysis and wonderful discussion on this forum, and yet this pervasive attitude can also rear its ugly head and I can't seem to figure out why.)
This thread (click here), and another one like it that was closed a few months back, truly get my goat. Few things grate on my nerves more than someone judging a work of art by mainly (or, in this case, exclusively!) judging the artist.
What is the point of this way of thinking? What is gained by it? How does labeling the artist and then judging them by the label advance our critical analysis of art? Likewise, most of us know almost nothing about each other's personal lives. Yet we value each other's "works of art": an equipment recommendation, a well-worded movie review, etc. To those of you that subscribe to this way of thinking, do you do background checks on someone after they recommend one DVD player over another. "Say, he has 3 outstanding traffic tickets; how can I trust his word on what receiver to buy!?"
To me, this is also the perfect example of the slippery slope phenomenon. "I'll read a book by an author who has shoplifted, but not by a rapist." "I'll see an art exhibit by a guy who hit his wife once, but not one who put her in the hospital" "That director was once involved in a hit-and-run; I won't see his movie, but I'll see this other movie since I don't know anything about THAT director."
I know those examples tend a bit towards the ludicrous side, but does anyone see my point? Should I make sure that Leonardo Da Vinci was a "good man" before I study his works of art?
To those of you who see nothing wrong with this method of judgment, allow me a few hypothetical questions:
1. Do you research the backgrounds of each and every director(s) / writer(s) / producer(s) / actor(s) / actress(es) / etc. attached to EACH and EVERY film you see to make sure they are what YOU would consider to be "good" human beings? If not, why only do it to a few films? Are you sure Stephen Spielberg doesn't have bodies hidden his backyard?
2. Are you sure your "facts" are correct about those who are on your black list? You're not scared that making all this effort to judge people will be a wasted effort should new information be found?
3. Where does it end? Robber but not killer? Ladies man but not rapist? How are you so good at drawing the lines in the sand and comfortably living with them?
4. Finally, why the need to force your views on other people? If Director Joe Smith is convicted of murder and later legally declared not guilty, will you then go see his films? Will you then "allow" others to see his films?
To me, I do not care about the personal lives of artists, whether they be directors, actors, authors, or whatever. I look at each piece of art individually and try to at least reflect on what it means to me, what it says about life, and all that other good stuff.
For those of you thinking that they've got a bad guy named Greg in their midst, fear not. I'm not arguing these points because I have something to hide. Anyone trying to find the skeletons in my closet would come up relatively empty, and certainly be bored in the process.
This thread (click here), and another one like it that was closed a few months back, truly get my goat. Few things grate on my nerves more than someone judging a work of art by mainly (or, in this case, exclusively!) judging the artist.
What is the point of this way of thinking? What is gained by it? How does labeling the artist and then judging them by the label advance our critical analysis of art? Likewise, most of us know almost nothing about each other's personal lives. Yet we value each other's "works of art": an equipment recommendation, a well-worded movie review, etc. To those of you that subscribe to this way of thinking, do you do background checks on someone after they recommend one DVD player over another. "Say, he has 3 outstanding traffic tickets; how can I trust his word on what receiver to buy!?"
To me, this is also the perfect example of the slippery slope phenomenon. "I'll read a book by an author who has shoplifted, but not by a rapist." "I'll see an art exhibit by a guy who hit his wife once, but not one who put her in the hospital" "That director was once involved in a hit-and-run; I won't see his movie, but I'll see this other movie since I don't know anything about THAT director."
I know those examples tend a bit towards the ludicrous side, but does anyone see my point? Should I make sure that Leonardo Da Vinci was a "good man" before I study his works of art?
To those of you who see nothing wrong with this method of judgment, allow me a few hypothetical questions:
1. Do you research the backgrounds of each and every director(s) / writer(s) / producer(s) / actor(s) / actress(es) / etc. attached to EACH and EVERY film you see to make sure they are what YOU would consider to be "good" human beings? If not, why only do it to a few films? Are you sure Stephen Spielberg doesn't have bodies hidden his backyard?
2. Are you sure your "facts" are correct about those who are on your black list? You're not scared that making all this effort to judge people will be a wasted effort should new information be found?
3. Where does it end? Robber but not killer? Ladies man but not rapist? How are you so good at drawing the lines in the sand and comfortably living with them?
4. Finally, why the need to force your views on other people? If Director Joe Smith is convicted of murder and later legally declared not guilty, will you then go see his films? Will you then "allow" others to see his films?
To me, I do not care about the personal lives of artists, whether they be directors, actors, authors, or whatever. I look at each piece of art individually and try to at least reflect on what it means to me, what it says about life, and all that other good stuff.
For those of you thinking that they've got a bad guy named Greg in their midst, fear not. I'm not arguing these points because I have something to hide. Anyone trying to find the skeletons in my closet would come up relatively empty, and certainly be bored in the process.