HTF REVIEW: "Collateral Damage" (with screenshots) - REPOST

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  1. Ronald Epstein

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    Collateral Damage

    Studio: Warner Brothers
    Year: 2002
    Rated: R
    Film Length: 109 minutes
    Aspect Ratio: 16X9 Enhanced Widescreen (1.85:1)

    What Would You Do If You Lost Everything?
    It seems that the release of Collateral Damage
    had everything going against it. Originally set for
    release late last year, the film was held up after
    the 9/11 catastrophe. When it finally opened earlier
    this year, the film was bombarded by lackluster
    reviews by critics everywhere.
    Gordon Brewer (Arnold Schwarzenegger) is a fireman
    (and ex bomb and arson expert) who in the opening
    moments of the film tragically loses his wife and
    son in a terrorist attack triggered by The Wolf
    (Cliff Curtis). Quickly realizing that the inept
    at the CIA, FBI and State Department aren't going
    to get the bomber, Arnie engineers his own one-man
    mission to Central America to smoke the guy out and
    kill him.
    So, is Collateral Damage as bad as the
    critics make it out to be? The answer is not
    really clear. Though this is certainly a ludicrous
    revenge thriller, the movie does manage to keep
    its head above water thanks to Arnie, who is back
    on a one-man gung-ho mission giving us his best
    mean looks in scene after scene as he romps around
    the Colombian jungles.
    The overall problem with this film is the pacing.
    Typically, compared to other Arnie action flicks,
    this one is a yawner. After all popcorn fare has
    always been Arnie's bag, and this movie leaves the
    viewer feeling less than satisfied.
    How is the transfer?
    Warner Brothers rarely disappoints with any of
    their new release transfers. Collateral Damage
    is no exception to the rule, offering a pristine
    transfer that is virtually flawless. Picture
    remains consistently clear. Most of the film takes
    place in the thick, lush jungles of Colombia and
    these images retain a very natural look to them
    with very deep greens everywhere. Even the flesh
    tones remain natural throughout. Though not meant
    to be a colorful film, when color is used such in
    scenes of a Columbian carnival, those colors
    compliment the overall transfer without ever looking
    oversaturated. What this all boils down to is a
    transfer that ranks high with most of the new
    Warner releases you have been seeing.
    The 5.1 Dolby Digital transfer is very aggressive.
    Dialogue remains dead center, with very pronounced
    stereo separation across the two front channels.
    It is the rears that do most of the workout, supplying
    a never-ending amount of effects support from flames
    that surround a collapsed building rescue, to gunfire
    in the Colombian jungle. When the film isn't in
    action mode, you can hear the subtle backdrop sounds
    of the city or the back office typewriters of the
    FBI building. As Arnie crosses into Colombia, you
    can hear the sounds of the jungle surrounding the
    listening area.
    The LFE channel is also very strong. This film
    is filled with explosion after explosion, and my
    subwoofer shook the floor during many of them.
    The roaring rapids provided some thunderous rumbles
    as did the underlying beat of the film's score.
    Special Features
    There is a nominal amount of added material on
    this DVD, none of which really is memorable.
    First is a feature-length commentary by
    Director Andrew Davis.
    Another one of those slickly produced Behind
    The Scenes promotional pieces does everything
    it can to promote this film as "a side of Arnold
    you have never seen before". It's the perfect
    example of how a mediocre to bad film can be promoted
    as something brilliant, using quickly edited
    action clips. The Making of Collateral Damage
    begins with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Director Andrew
    Davis (The Fugitive) giving a summary of the film
    against the many clips that are shown. One of the
    more interesting things to watch is Arnold being
    geared and trained in fire fighting skills. This
    segment, while brief, cannot help but make you
    think of what firemen go through every day. Next,
    we learn a little about Veracruz, the state where
    this movie was filmed. Most of the architecture,
    water and vegetation was similar to Columbia. It
    is at this point that we see some of the behind-
    the-camera on-location shots of the cast in the
    back woods.
    (length: approx. 15 minutes)
    The events of 9/11 have prompted the inclusion
    of The Hero In A New Era, which has Arnold
    Schwarzenegger and Andrew Davis justifying their
    reasons for releasing the film at the time they did.
    We finally hear the in-depth reasons why the film
    was yanked, and the reactions of a screening audience
    that saw the film two months after the 9/11 attack.
    Davis talks about why he was attracted to the
    main character of this film, and why he felt that
    Arnold was perfect for the role. We also watch
    each of these men talk about the many heroes in
    our society.
    (length: approx. 8 minutes)
    There are about eight minutes of deleted scenes
    that really add nothing to the story and surely
    would have slowed the pacing. They include:
    * Station Chief Brandt (Elias Koteas) outlines
    his agenda, stating that he is going to put his
    men out in the field, "no-holds-barred".
    * In an alternate introduction to Selena (Francesca
    Neri) and Mauro, we see a relationship solidified
    as Brewer plays a carnival game with the young boy
    before eventually being captured.
    * Planned as a possible replacement for the snake
    scene, Mauro mercifully lets the soldier go without
    killing him.
    * On the night before the attack, we watch the
    American helicopter team prep for an attack on
    the guerilla camp during a rain storm.
    * A walk-through of the death and carnage following
    the American raid on the guerilla camp.
    * Brewer's flight back to Washington as the next
    game plan is discussed.
    All these scenes are presented in finished form,
    meaning that the quality is exceptional, and it
    is presented in proper film ratio.
    A very limited Cast and Crew filmography
    is included for everyone involved. Take a look
    at Schwarzenegger's bio, and you see most all
    his past films listed are Warner titles.
    The film's original Theatrical Trailer
    is included.
    Final Thoughts
    I remember a time when a Schwarzenegger film
    was a big deal -- a guaranteed box-office smash.
    Films like Collateral Damage make one feel
    that Arnie is nearing the end of his film career
    and that perhaps the only film that could revitalize
    his career is Terminator 3.
    I can't recommend this DVD for purchase, that is,
    unless you want it to complete your Schwarzenegger
    collection. This is probably more apt for rental,
    as you'll never watch this film more than once.
    Release Date: July 30, 2002
  2. Lou Sytsma

    Lou Sytsma Producer

    Nov 1, 1998
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    Thanks Ron. Skipped this one at the theater - will probably rent it though.
  3. Ron-P

    Ron-P Producer

    Jul 25, 2000
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    Love the Arnie movies, I'll be buying this one.
    Peace Out~[​IMG]
  4. Dave Scarpa

    Dave Scarpa Producer

    Apr 8, 1999
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    I enjoyed this film and I usually do watch Arnie films more than once, So I'll pick it up.
  5. Chris M

    Chris M Second Unit

    Apr 15, 2000
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    Arnie is always great popcorn material. I bought Hercules in New York and will buy this one! [​IMG]
  6. HenrikTull

    HenrikTull Second Unit

    Jun 6, 2000
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    Appreciate the review Ron. I was originally going to buy this movie unseen, but you inspired me to rent it first. There's nothing worse than having movies in your DVD collection that you hate.
  7. Alan Kurland

    Alan Kurland Stunt Coordinator

    Nov 6, 1998
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    This was the worst Arnold movie I ever saw (I've seen them all) I was so upset that I wasted my time seeing this in the theater, that I went right away to see Black Hawk Down. I felt somewhat redeemed. All said, please rent this first before purchase!
  8. Wes

    Wes Screenwriter

    Sep 30, 1997
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    If its got good sound it's got built in replay value and a keeper for me! I saw it in the theater and liked it!

  9. KyleK

    KyleK Second Unit

    Jan 11, 2001
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  10. Eric Huffstutler

    Eric Huffstutler Screenwriter

    Oct 2, 1999
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    Strange about this unusual Warner policy? Is this so they can make last minute changes or postpone the release on the fly? Why hasn't other studios impose the same?
  11. Ronald Epstein

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    Jul 3, 1997
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    Actually, Warner claims this policy has
    always been in effect.

    It's strange because for nearly the past
    year I have been posting all my Warner
    reviews well over two weeks prior to release
    without a hitch.

    A particular reviewer (who shall remain
    nameless) on another site decided to make
    a call and remind Warner of their policy.

    We will repost the review shortly.
  12. Leon Liew

    Leon Liew Stunt Coordinator

    Oct 23, 2001
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    Aw what the hell ! I will just add this one to my Arnie's
    DVD collection[​IMG]
  13. Jenna

    Jenna Second Unit

    Feb 12, 2002
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    Caught this one in the theater when it was finally released...and yes, it was a disappointment, especially for a Schwarzenegger film. Yet, if the price is super-low, it'll probably end up in our collection - simply because my son is such a huge fan of Arnie's.

    Interestingly, I read today that this film was originally slated as a Harrison Ford vehicle. Somehow I feel he would have been more believeable in the role.
  14. Neil Joseph

    Neil Joseph Lead Actor

    Jan 16, 1998
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    I was going to buy this. Thanks for the heads up.
  15. Dharmesh C

    Dharmesh C Supporting Actor

    Jul 25, 2000
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    I watched it, thanks to a certain supplier [​IMG] If you are a die-hard Arnie fan, you might like it. I'm a Arnie fan, but this film was very disappointing, but not terrible. Don't expect anything like his 80s work, an open mind is required.
    The transfer was pretty good. The sound was excellent, some great LFE action.
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  16. Al_S

    Al_S Second Unit

    Nov 30, 2000
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    I caught this in the theater and thought it was the worst Arnie movie ever. It was just so boring to me and I thought Arnie was just sleep walking his way through it.
  17. Tony_Faville

    Tony_Faville Supporting Actor

    Jun 1, 2000
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    Bought it and my wife and I both enjoyed it. I had a problem with the SFX when Arnie was in the water but other than that, we found it to be one of his better films. Nothing can compare to True Lies though.
  18. Robert_eb

    Robert_eb Supporting Actor

    Sep 14, 2001
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    This movie is a rental at best.
  19. LennyP

    LennyP Supporting Actor

    Jun 20, 2002
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    It's in the mail already, I liked it, especially the ending, thank you for that great last screencap of her, she kicked ass and that's almost 60% of why I liked the whole movie.
  20. AaronNWilson

    AaronNWilson Second Unit

    Jan 28, 2001
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    I rented this one a couple of nights ago and it really didn't engage my interest so I went to bed instead of watching the rest.

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