HOLLLLLLLLLY WOOFAGE! My Stryke AV-12 is HERE!

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  1. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Producer

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    Hey Fellas,
    GUESS WHAT I GOT TODAY
    NEENER NEEENER NEEEEENER!!!!!!
    My AV12 Arrived this morning ($140.00 $12.00 Shipping)
    This thing weighs 23 FREAKING Pounds.. Has the MTX 12
    Spoke Basket finished in a gorgeous silver paint. Massive
    woven spider with sewn tinsel leads, huge roll surround
    and a gorgeous cone!
    WOW WOW WOW!
    My god is this thing heavy duty [​IMG]
    Expect a plain white box comming to your doors SOON fellas!
    Ohh my god I am so Stoked!!
     
  2. Brian Bunge

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    Brett,
    That's pretty cool! I wonder if it'll outperform your MB Quart 10?
    BTW, who's Holly? [​IMG]
     
  3. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Producer

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    Brian,
    Are you trying to be a smart A$$ ? [​IMG]
    I meant HOLLLLLLLLLY! [​IMG]
    Well lets see, I hooked her up free air of course just to
    make sure everything is in working order.... Hmmmmmmmm
    I think it has a "little" bit more excursion than the MB
    10" had.. Lets put it this way... On Manheim SteamRollers
    Christmas Special HDCD on Track 1 if I would have put a
    quarter on the cone, well I would now have a quarter sized
    hole through my ceiling..
    This thing is going to MOVE some massive air! the excursion
    is phenominal and the cone moves quick!
    But still, I was running -16Db on the Receiver... [​IMG]
    I think I may be one of the few guys here that when done
    with the box and all simply does have too MUCH head room!
    LOL
    Wow this thing is gonna rip the walls apart [​IMG]
    Now all I have to do is figgure out what I am going to
    do about a box... Sealed or Ported... Ho Hum.....
    Sealed...
    More power handling... better cone control.... yeah me thinks
    sealed is probably the best bet...
    But I am open to opinions [​IMG]
     
  4. Brian Bunge

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    Me? A smart ass? I resemble that remark! [​IMG]
    BTW, sealed or ported comes down to your goals/preferences. Size, extension, etc. BTW, I'll have an AV12 with dual 15" Stryke PR's and the 380W amp assembled here in the shop within a few weeks.
    I'll let you know how it turns out!
     
  5. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Producer

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    Here's the Pictures for all you waiting for the beast to
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    Enjoy!
    Brian,
    Yes please let me know how the dual PR 380W turns out..
    For me I am going to use it a lot for music so I am
    going to go sealed for better control and power handling.
    I need to take a week or two and run some sims.. I won't
    be able to work on the box right away anyway.
     
  6. Pete Mazz

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    Can you do me a favor and measure the cutout dimension and the outside flange diameter? I have been unable to get it.

    Pete
     
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    this looks sweet cant wait to get my 15 that looks even sweeter than my kicker solo 12 befor they went square cant wait for next year
     
  8. Kyle Richardson

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    Pete,
    Mounting diameter is 11" and the total diameter is 12-11/16" with a mounting depth of 5-5/8" and figure a volume displacement of about 4 liters.
     
  9. Brett DiMichele

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    Kyle,
    Thanks for the measurements...
    Pete,
    I wish I could have gotten you the measurements but I am
    on Midnight Shift, I check the site at work and well the
    sub is at home. Dowt! [​IMG]
     
  10. Brett DiMichele

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    Hey Fellas,

    I can't get over this woofer! I sat on the floor this
    morning beside my HT, and I ran a 15-80 Hz Sweep that I
    burned to a CD-R. With my Bass Peak Limiter Off... Volume
    at Reference and the amps gain at 75% this thing never
    exceeded X-Max! That's free air with not much cone control
    other than what the surround is doing...

    At Fs the thing wanted to jump off the floor (infact it was
    hopping up and down...) the only time I have seen this much
    excursion was on Eclipse Titaniums! (Granted I don't go to
    DB Drags or anything like that)

    I have a feeling I am going to be giddy like a school girl
    when I decide on an enclosure and get this thing into the
    box... Infact I have a feeling I am going to be redoing
    spackle work on the walls!

    John,

    This is ONE HELL of a driver! And cheap too!

    I can only imagine what the AV-15 is going to be like!
     
  11. Kyle Richardson

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    Brett,
    Glad you love the woofer! Be careful running sweeps through the woofer free air, as you know it doesn't take much to send it past xmax that way. I know you know what you're doing but I'm posting my caveat for others to see [​IMG]
     
  12. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Producer

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    Kyle,

    Ohh yeah it's like reving a high performance car engine
    in neutral.. Free air doesn't offer much control of the
    cone. I had my finger on the gain just in case...

    I never came close to X-Max (well okay I may have been
    close but the thing is insane... just watching the excursion
    is crazy)

    And the motor structure is powerful, the cone has very fast
    transient response from what I can tell, I think I am going
    to have a very musical sub on my hands when it's in the
    right sealed enclosure.
     
  13. Geoff L

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    Hey Brett
    My my my, how the wheels of thinking change...[​IMG]
    So now you have a real barker! Your Quart was a chiwowha-(sp) and this this is a Chow Chow....[​IMG] Nip nip, CHOMP CHOMP. You get the idea[​IMG]
    Glad to see you pumped, your gona be very impressed I'm sure, like your not already.....
    Thanks much for so many pic's, allot are "looking" and just not talking, but their out their for sure.
    Love them spun cones...Shes a definit beauty, hate to even think about covering that up with a grill.
    Kyle/scratch that****
    Brian:
    Are you using the 15" Stryke Spun Alum PR's?
    Edit:::>
    Man, that would be a real looker!
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    I lost track of who was building what! Thanks Brian for answering the question on page 3 of this thread....
    End Edit:::>
    Happy Woofen
    Geoff
     
  14. Pete Mazz

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    Thanks Kyle and Brett for the info, but guess what!!!
    4 little white boxes arrived today by UPS!!!! They're sitting next to 2 sheets of BB ply in the shop. [​IMG]
    Who needs to do Xmas shopping.....I can just give cash as gifts. [​IMG]
    Pete
     
  15. Brett DiMichele

    Brett DiMichele Producer

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    Pete,
    Four??? Some of you guys are absolutely cRaZy [​IMG]
    That's going to be a lil bass [​IMG]
     
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    Wow, what a nice sub, and dam cheap too!! I would have gotten this sub over the Shiva if it had been out back then, ah well, I can always make another one. How does this sub work in ported enclosures???
     
  17. Brett DiMichele

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    Cam,
    Here are the T/S Params for the AV-12
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    Fs: 21Hz
    Qms: 4.41
    Qes: .399
    Qts: .366
    Vas: 88 L
    Re: 2.97 ohm
    Z: 4 ohm
    BL: 15 Tm
    Cms: .25 mm/N
    Mms: 228 g
    Pe: 500W
    1W/1m: 85.5dB
    2.83V: 89.5dB
    Xmax: 23 mm
    Xsus: 30 mm
    Sd: 498 sq cm
    Vd: 2.33 L
    -----------------------------------------------
    From the sims I ran a while back in Win ISD Pro it seems
    to work well either way. Go ahead and mess with the numbers
    and see what you come up with. EBP Comes out to 52.6
    so either way it's going to work well.
    As for the cost, this driver is suposed to sell for $179.00
    John still has the Pre Order Price up on the web site of
    $140.00 I am not sure if that price is still valid, it may
    be..
    Even at $180.00 this is still a very well constructed driver.
     
  18. Brett DiMichele

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    Geoff,
    I never said I could make the MB-Q work it was just a test.
    A test that I didn't loose any money on [​IMG] Actually I wish
    I could have bought more of those MB-Q's because I could
    have resold them on Ebay for 2X what I paid.. =)
    Excursion is a goood thing! And this thing beast has plenty
    of it!
    I honestly can't wait to get the enclosure done, but it's
    going to have to wait untill after the holidays because a
    friend said he would do all the cutting for me on his table
    saw (and all the dado work as well) since I don't have a
    table saw...
    I am undecided on how I want to mount the driver though...
    I thought about downfiring... But the more I look at the
    driver the more I want to see it everyday, sidefiring would
    work, but I want to make the enclosure a vertical rectangular
    shape and that would look sort of odd with a side firing sub..
    Ohh hell I don't know... I really need to think it over [​IMG]
     
  19. Brett DiMichele

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    Okay here's what I come up with...

    In a 1 Cubic Foot Sealed Enclosure with 300 watts input
    power I get 98.032Db @ 19.98 Hz with 23.911 Mm's of Excursion.

    Highest output occours at 100Hz with 111 Db of output and
    less than 5mm's of excursion.

    I am going to tweak around some more and see what I come up
    with..
     
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    In a 63.8 Liter Vented box tuned to 19Hz with a 4" Dia by
    38" long Vent with 200 watts power it yeilds around 106.5
    DB @ 20Hz and is well within x-max
     

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