First of all, I bought a 65809 but the store had run out of those so they delivered me a 65311 which is this years model. I'm not sure if that's good or bad, maybe some of you guys could let me know. I am amazed at how good the picture looks on regular and digital cable (time warner). I was expecting it to look out of focus and fuzzy but it does not. HOWEVER, when using s video it does look pretty bad. Very odd that using the regular coax cable looks far better. I wonder if a lot of people never try this and just assume that s video will look better and are dissatified. Hey, even football looks pretty good through the coax; football through s video will give me an instant headache however. I hope someone can explain to me why coax looks so much better than s video. DVD's look fantastic even though I don't have a progressive player yet. My only frustration so far is trying to set it up with Avia. It seems like so many setting levels would work for what the disk is describing as appropriate.