Help with Steely Dan DVD-A disc please

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  1. Julian Reville

    Julian Reville Screenwriter

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    I feel like such a dork.:b
    OK, the disc I'm having problems with is Steely Dan "Two Against Nature". According to the little, itsy, bitsy print on the backside of the case, there are supposed to be 4 audio choices.
    I'm trying to play it in a Toshiba 4700 connected via Toslink for digital, 6 ICs for 6 channel analog, and 2 ICs for 2 channel analog, all going to a Yamaha DSP-A1.
    The disc plays fine in 6 channel analog, but I can't find a choice for dts in the menus. Is the dts not output as a bitstream on this disk?
    When I access the stereo tracks menu the disc "plays" but I get no sound at all. I have tried all the combinations in the Toshiba setup menu.
    In my bedroom system, where I have a Pioneer Elite DVL-90, the disc won't play at all, can't even access the menus. [​IMG]
    Time for a new DVD player in there.
    Anybody have any secrets for playing this disc?
    Thanks,
    Julian
     
  2. Philip Hamm

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    The way this disc is mastered, you can not access the DD and DTS tracks on a DVD-Audio player. Unless, that is, your DVD-Audio player is set to "DVD-Video" mode. I don't know how to set this mode on your player, or whether it's possible at all.

    The disc should be playable on your DVL-90 as far as I know. I don't know why it won't play there.
     
  3. Emil Stoica

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    It will be in the setup menus of your Toshiba. They default to Audio default. Switch it to Video and you will see the DTS choice.
     
  4. Julian Reville

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    Thanks, guys. Got it working on the Toshiba, still no joy on the Pioneer Elite.
    Sorry about posting in the wrong forum, too many choices. [​IMG]
     
  5. John Kotches

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    Julian,

    This isn't necessarily the wrong forum.

    I haven't worked with this particular player, but the Pioneer DVL-909 might be having issues with the inclusion of both AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS on one disc.

    Is it an older one, say 3-4 years old?

    Regards,
     
  6. Julian Reville

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    After trying this disc AGAIN on 3 different players, I have come to the conclusion I have a semi-defective disc.
    The 6 ch DVD-A plays fine on a Toshiba SD-4700 and a Panasonic RP-82. The other 3 options won't play on anything I own. So tomorrow I will call MusicDirect and see how good their customer service is.
    John, the Pioneer Elite DVL-90 is an older model, but it plays the Dolby Digital tracks of "Foreplay" which is a Warner DVD-Audio, just fine. On the Steely Dan DVD-A it just regurgitates the disc.
    Anyway, thanks for everyone's help.
    Julian
     
  7. John Kotches

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    Julian,
    The Steely Dan disc is on Giant Records, which is a part of..... Warner [​IMG]
    If you have a PeeCee DVD Rom drive, can you insert the disc and take a look at the directory structure?
    Regards,
     
  8. Julian Reville

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    I checked the disc on this PC which has a DVD Rom, and the directory structure is there for both Audio_TS and Video_TS, and there are a bunch of files under both, but it won't play on the PC either. I put another DVD in (a video only), and it played fine.

    I called Music Direct and after a little discussion they are sending a replacement disc.
     
  9. John Kotches

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    Cool Julian -- I'm just not sure it's actually a defective disc.

    It won't hurt to receive a new one and test it out.

    Regards,
     
  10. Julian Reville

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    I'm not sure it's defective, either. [​IMG] But 2 DVD-Audio players, 2 DVD-Video players, and a PC DVD-ROM all won't play it. It's either defective or I've got the world's worst collection of DVD players.
    Of course, I also have malfunctioning copies of Fantasia 2000 and From the Earth to the Moon, so maybe it's the heat and humidity here. My house is air-conditioned, though, and I only had the Steely Dan disc 1 day when I found the problem.
    When the new one gets here, I'll post the results, assuming I can still find this thread
     

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