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Has Criterion upgraded the Blu-ray of CHILDREN OF PARADISE?

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Dick, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. Dick

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    Sometimes DVD's or Blu-rays that were universally criticized are corrected and reissued, as happened with PATTON, GLADIATOR, SPARTACUS and GANGS OF NEW YORK. And sometimes one might not even have heard of the upgrade. I am wondering if Marcel Carnes' CHILDREN OF PARADISE was ever released with a transfer improved from the original and controversial Blu-ray? Criterion did go back to reissue YOJIMBO after many complaints, and I wonder if that might have happened with the one and just slipped by me. Anyone?
     
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    No.
     
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    what was the upgrade to Spartacus for and when was it done?
     
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    Universal restored it back in 2015 with 12 minutes of added footage and it was restored from large format 35mm original film elements.

    https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Spartacus-Blu-ray/136182/
     
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    was there an earlier BD version?
    My version is 3hrs 16mins, I wonder if I have the latest version?
     
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    The first release was back in 2010 for the 50th Anniversary with a 197 minute run time. Each re-release since 2010 has been 197 minutes.
     
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    Ok I have two versions and the last one, both are 3Hrs 17mins long, I wonder if there was any differance between my two versions.
     
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    The quality of the video presentation is significantly improved on the 2015 version of Spartacus, but the actual film content is identical.
     
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    There have been no material changes since 1991. Only new scans.
     
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    What's wrong with the Criterion BR of Children of Paradise?

    ...ducks for cover...
     
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    What happened with Yojimbo? I only see one listing for it on bluray.com.
     
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    DNRd to hell.
     
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    Blu-ray.com review of the disc says "Traces of moderate to very heavy filtering corrections are easily noticeable throughout the entire film and detail and clarity are seriously compromised".
     
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    Are you talking about actual DNR, or blocking in the blacker than black region that they've been criticized for other times.
     
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    Actual DNR. No grain and real detail obscured.
    https://www.hometheaterforum.com/community/threads/a-few-words-about-™-children-of-paradise-in-blu-ray.317813/
     
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    Basically Pathe did their own 4k scan in 2011. The restoration company did their own agressive grain management on the transfer. Pathe seems perfevtly fine with the subsequent bad restoration job and Criterion is contractually obligated to release what Pathe gave them. So to return to the original question, the answer is obviously
     
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    The dvd was misframed. Apples and oranges though since Criterion actually did that transfer.
     
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    I could have sworn there was an earlier Blu of YOJIMBO (from Criterion) that had artifacting problems. Just a sub-par release. But they did get around to remastering it in any case. Now, Criterion, PLEASE DO THE SAME FOR CHILDREN OF PARADISE!
     
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    Yojimbo was released on Blu back in 2010 with spine #52.
     
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    Yes, thank you. I own the Blu, but it just gnaws at me that I'm so sure it was released on Blu earlier and had PQ issues. Guess it's just the old dementia, eh?
     
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