General Discussion From HBO Max to Max Official Thread! (2 Viewers)

[Robert Crawford]

my experience so far was on my macbook by opening the old HBOmax app & it switched automatically over. from what i previously read, this would happen, but when i opened the app on my ATV, the old app just opened.

as Mr. Crawford mentioned above, perhaps i’ll also leave it as is until some of the kinks are worked out.

did anyone find the ATV app enable the new Max on its own?

I went back to that ATV unit that only had HBO Max on it and the app wouldn't load so I was forced to download the Max app on that unit. However, that ATV unit won't play any 4K material with HDR too now. So both of my 4KATV units are out of commission when it comes to 4K/Dolby Vision programming on Max. However, I have Ultra Roku units in each HT location and they play 4K/Dolby Vision programming just fine.

 

[FincherFan]

spoke too soon about waiting out for any issues. once i re-opened the old HBOMax app, it prompted me to download the Max app.
it's actually not bad; it seems cleaner. who knows how well it'll work, but i was able to scrub thru Shazam with the Apple remote.

however, the addtion of the Discovery-related content does tarnish the overall look.

 

[Robert Crawford]

This listing of 4K/UHD movies appears to be longer than the previous listing I posted:

Max Bowing New Ad-Free Streaming Tier With Expanded 4K Content Offering - Media Play News

HBO Max May 23 becomes Max, Warner Bros. Discovery’s enhanced streaming platform. At launch, the service will bow a new “Ultimate Ad-Free” tier that will offer four concurrent streams, up … Continue reading "Max Bowing New Ad-Free Streaming Tier With Expanded 4K Content Offering"

www.mediaplaynews.com

Catalog movies available in 4K UHD on the Ultimate Ad-Free tier include:

• 2001: A Space Odyssey
• 2nd Annual Ha Festival: The Art Of Comedy
• 8-Bit Christmas
• A Christmas Mystery
• A Christmas Story Christmas
• A Clockwork Orange
• A Hollywood Christmas
• Ahir Shah: Dots
• Aida Rodriguez: Fighting Words
• Amy
• And Just Like That… The Documentary
• And Just Like That…
• Antlers
• Aquaman
• Argo
• Avenue 5
• Bad Education
• Barbarian
• Barry (S2, S3) *S1 & S4 will be available on June 23.
• Batman (1989)
• Batman & Robin
• Batman And Harley Quinn
• Batman Begins
• Batman Forever
• Batman Returns
• Batman V Superman: Ultimate Edition
• Betty
• Big Little Lies
• Birds Of Prey (And The Fantabulous Emancipation Of One Harley Quinn)
• Black Adam
• Brené Brown: Atlas Of The Heart
• C.B. Strike
• Casablanca
• Catherine The Great
• Chernobyl
• Chris Redd: Why Am I Like This?
• Coastal Elites
• Colin Quinn & Friends: A Parking Lot Comedy Show
• Cry Macho
• Dc League Of Super-Pets
• Death On The Nile
• DMZ
• Don’t Worry Darling
• Dune
• East Of Eden
• Edge Of Tomorrow
• Elvis
• Empire Of Light
• Euphoria
• Euphoria: Trouble Don’t Last Always
• Expecting Amy
• Fahrenheit 451
• Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them
• Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes Of Grindelwald
• Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets Of Dumbledore
• Father Of The Bride
• Free Guy
• Friends: The Reunion
• From The Earth To The Moon
• Game Of Thrones
• Gaming Wall St
• Garcia!
• Giant
• Godzilla
• Godzilla vs. Kong
• Goodfellas
• Gossip Girl
• Ha Festival: The Art Of Comedy
• Hacks
• Harry Potter 20th Anniversary: Return To Hogwarts
• Harry Potter And The Chamber Of Secrets
• Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows Part 1
• Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows Part 2
• Harry Potter And The Goblet Of Fire
• Harry Potter And The Half-Blood Prince
• Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix
• Harry Potter And The Prisoner Of Azkaban
• Harry Potter And The Sorcerer’s Stone
• Heaven’s Gate: The Cult Of Cults
• His Dark Materials
• Holiday Harmony
• House Of The Dragon
• House Party
• I Hate Suzie
• In The Heights
• Industry
• Irma Vep
• It Chapter Two
• It’s A Sin
• Joker
• Judas And The Black Messiah
• Julia
• Justice League
• Kimi
• King Richard
• Kong: Skull Island
• Landscapers
• Lizzo: Live In Concert
• Lord Of The Rings, The: The Fellowship Of The Ring
• Lord Of The Rings, The: The Fellowship Of The Ring (Extended Version)
• Lord Of The Rings, The: The Return Of The King
• Lord Of The Rings, The: The Return Of The King (Extended Version)
• Lord Of The Rings, The: The Two Towers
• Lord Of The Rings, The: The Two Towers (Extended Version)
• Love, Lizzo
• Lovecraft Country
• Low Country: The Murdaugh Dynasty
• Magic Mike
• Malcolm X
• Malignant
• Man Of Steel
• Mare Of Easttown
• Marlon Wayans Presents: The Headliners
• Marlon Wayans: You Know What It Is
• Matrix Reloaded
• Matrix Resurrections
• Matrix Revolutions
• Menudo: Forever Young
• Mortal Kombat
• Mosaic
• Moses Storm: Trash White
• My Brilliant Friend
• My Gift: A Christmas Special From Carrie Underwood
• Native Son
• No Sudden Move
• Ocean’s Eleven
• Oslo
• Our Flag Means Death
• Peacemaker
• Pennyworth: The Origin Of Batman’s Butler
• Perry Mason
• Pretty Little Liars: Original Sin
• Rain Dogs
• Rap Sh!T
• Reminiscence
• Rio Bravo
• Roadrunner: A Film About Anthony Bourdain
• Rose Matafeo: Horndog
• Santa Camp
• Scenes From A Marriage
• Scoob!
• See How They Run
• Selena + Chef
• Sex And The City
• Sharp Objects
• Shazam: Fury Of The Gods
• Shazam!
• Singin’ In The Rain
• Sort Of
• Soul Of America
• Space Jam: A New Legacy
• Starstruck
• Station Eleven
• Succession (S1-S3) *S4 will be available on June 30.
• Suicide Squad
• Superman: The Movie
• Sweet Life: Los Angeles
• Take Out With Lisa Ling
• That Damn Michael Che
• The Baby
• The Banshees Of Inisherin
• The Batman
• The Big Brunch
• The Big Shot With Bethenny
• The Bob’s Burgers Movie
• The Bridge
• The Captive
• The Climb
• The Conjuring
• The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It
• The Dark Knight
• The Dark Knight Rises
• The Deuce
• The Fallout
• The Fastest Woman On Earth
• The Flight Attendant
• The Gilded Age
• The Girl Before
• The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey
• The Hobbit: The Battle Of The Five Armies
• The Hobbit: The Desolation Of Smaug
• The King’s Man
• The Last Of Us
• The Lego Movie
• The Little Things
• The Man From U.N.C.L.E.
• The Many Saints Of Newark
• The Matrix
• The Menu
• The New Pope
• The Night House
• The Nun
• The Plot Against America
• The Righteous Gemstones
• The Sex Lives Of College Girls
• The Soul Of America
• The Staircase
• The Suicide Squad
• The Survivor
• The Third Day
• The Tourist
• The Undoing
• The Way Down: God, Greed, And The Cult Of Gwen Shamblin
• The Weeknd: Live At Sofi Stadium
• The White Lotus
• The Wizard Of Oz
• Those Who Wish Me Dead
• Titans
• Tom & Jerry
• Wahl Street
• Watchmen
• We Are Who We Are
• We Own This City
• West Side Story (2021)
• White House Plumbers
• Winning Time: The Rise Of The Lakers Dynasty
• Wonder Woman (2017)
• Wonder Woman 1984
• Zack Snyder’s Justice League
• Zack Snyder’s Justice League: Justice Is Gray

 

[Robert Crawford]

Max Bowing New Ad-Free Streaming Tier With Expanded 4K Content Offering - Media Play News

HBO Max May 23 becomes Max, Warner Bros. Discovery’s enhanced streaming platform. At launch, the service will bow a new “Ultimate Ad-Free” tier that will offer four concurrent streams, up … Continue reading "Max Bowing New Ad-Free Streaming Tier With Expanded 4K Content Offering"

www.mediaplaynews.com

I find that hard to believe about Avatar: The Way of the Water:

The ad-free tier will feature enhanced formats, including 60 fps content, while boasting atmospheric audio. Subscribers can stream original content, including “Succession,” “The Undoing,” the “Watchmen” series, “Sharp Objects” and “Chernobyl,” among others. Warner Bros. movies include Dune, Don’t Worry Darling, Joker and Avatar: The Way of Water in 4K UHD, HDR 10, Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos beginning June 7.


How about this tidbit:

Additionally, all Warner Bros. movies released this year and going forward will be available in 4K UHD when they arrive on Max following their theatrical windows.

 

[JPCinema]

From Here to Eternity

 

[Robert Crawford]

From Here to Eternity

No HDR applied.

 

[JPCinema]

L

 

[Robert Crawford]

By the way, I just watched the first episode of the great HBO series "From the Earth to the Moon" in 4K/Dolby Vision and Atmos.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Guys,

If you see the 4K/UHD designate under a title, but without mentioning HDR or Dolby Vision then it's perhaps in 4K. However, it's without any type of HDR. Examples being Lawrence of Arabia, From Here to Eternity and The Bridge on the River Kwai.

 

[Scott Merryfield]

By the way, I just watched the first episode of the great HBO series "From the Earth to the Moon" in 4K/Dolby Vision and Atmos.

I may need to watch that again before my subscription runs out this fall. I just have it on DVD. Great series. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[ManW_TheUncool]

HBO launches buggy Max app for Apple TV users

The HBO experience on Apple TV hasn't always been great, and the new Max app has fallen back on bad habits.

appleinsider.com

OK, I suspect what's happening is simply that their ATV4K app is not applying match DR (and match frame rate)... as also pointed out in that article.

Since most/all(?) of us typically use that setting to apply proper (H)DR and otherwise default to SDR, that combined w/ the bug mentioned in the article would naturally yield no HDR in that app... unless one changes the default/current ATV4K setting, which I just tried and verified to be the case.

So currently, until Warner fixes the bug, you'd need to manually set the ATV4K output format yourself to get the correct/desired output when using the Max app.

But notice the issue isn't only w/ the DR, but also w/ frame rate though nobody here seems to have noticed the incorrect frame rate over here so far (until I just checked)...

_Man_

 

[jayembee]

Also 4K HDR IS working on my legacy grandfathered in linear HBO Subcscriber account.

Well, that's good. I haven't tried getting into Max yet.

I am amazed and saddened about the moves being made by HBO to its streaming service.

First, the fact that the iconic HBO is being removed from the name of the service.

Secondly, another price tier is being added to gouge those who want 4k playback. However, nothing new as Netflix has been doing this for some time now.

I've seen one opinion on-line that suggests this is a good thing. While the HBO brand has a lot of positive cachet, the writer of the opinion suggests that if that brand was kept, it might be tarnished by the "reality" dreck that Discovery+ will be bringing to the new service.

 

[Robert Crawford]

OK, I suspect what's happening is simply that their ATV4K app is not applying match DR (and match frame rate)... as also pointed out in that article.

Since most/all(?) of us typically use that setting to apply proper (H)DR and otherwise default to SDR, that combined w/ the bug mentioned in the article would naturally yield no HDR in that app... unless one changes the default/current ATV4K setting, which I just tried and verified to be the case.

So currently, until Warner fixes the bug, you'd need to manually set the ATV4K output format yourself to get the correct/desired output when using the Max app.

But notice the issue isn't only w/ the DR, but also w/ frame rate though nobody here seems to have noticed the incorrect frame rate over here so far (until I just checked)...

_Man_

None of those settings changes worked for me. Hell, to begin with this morning, the Max app on my ATV4K unit lost my account information and I had to delete the app and reinstall it again. After doing all that, I tried those setup changes you recommended and still no HDR. I then checked my Roku Ultra unit and no issues playing back programming with HDR. Furthermore, they didn't lose my account information like my ATV4K unit.

The bugs are still alive with Max and ATV units.

 

[Scott Merryfield]

I briefly tried one 4K / DV film on my Roku Ultra (Batman Begins), and it played back properly. I haven't tried accessing the service with my 1st Gen ATV4K, yet. Honestly, I have been using the Roku Ultra most of the time lately, as it's been working better.

 

[ManW_TheUncool]

None of those settings changes worked for me. Hell, to begin with this morning, the Max app on my ATV4K unit lost my account information and I had to delete the app and reinstall it again. After doing all that, I tried those setup changes you recommended and still no HDR. I then checked my Roku Ultra unit and no issues playing back programming with HDR. Furthermore, they didn't lose my account information like my ATV4K unit.

The bugs are still alive with Max and ATV units.

Not sure what you tried, but basically, I had to manually change the main Video Format from 4K/60 SDR, my previous/normal default, to 4K/23.96 HDR or 4K/24 HDR (under Other Formats) for watching HDR films in the new Max app... and switch to 4K/23.96 SDR or 4K/24 SDR for SDR films in it... and then switch again for video sourced content (probably 4K/59.94 whether SDR or HDR).

Yes, real pain in the butt to have to do that, so hopefully, they fix this asap so the match frame rate and DR settings will work again for their app. In the meantime, I may just avoid watching anymore HDR content on there... unless it's actually about to be removed from the service soon...

And yes, I left match frame rate and DR settings enabled as before (since other apps still work just fine w/ them).

_Man_

 

[Neil S. Bulk]

This article confirms that Max uses a custom player and not the tvOS player, so functions related to dynamic range and frame rate matching are not working on the Apple TV. This also affects audio features, like "Reduce Loud Sounds."

Warner Bros. Discovery blew it with the new Max app for Apple TV

A series of own goals defines the company's big shift to "Max."

www.macworld.com

 

[Robert Saccone]

This article confirms that Max uses a custom player and not the tvOS player, so functions related to dynamic range and frame rate matching are not working on the Apple TV. This also affects audio features, like "Reduce Loud Sounds."

Warner Bros. Discovery blew it with the new Max app for Apple TV

A series of own goals defines the company's big shift to "Max."

www.macworld.com

About the homegrown player on Apple TV, what’s the saying? Those who forget their history are doomed or destined to repeat it.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Not sure what you tried, but basically, I had to manually change the main Video Format from 4K/60 SDR, my previous/normal default, to 4K/23.96 HDR or 4K/24 HDR (under Other Formats) for watching HDR films in the new Max app... and switch to 4K/23.96 SDR or 4K/24 SDR for SDR films in it... and then switch again for video sourced content (probably 4K/59.94 whether SDR or HDR).

Yes, real pain in the butt to have to do that, so hopefully, they fix this asap so the match frame rate and DR settings will work again for their app. In the meantime, I may just avoid watching anymore HDR content on there... unless it's actually about to be removed from the service soon...

And yes, I left match frame rate and DR settings enabled as before (since other apps still work just fine w/ them).

_Man_

I tried all of those settings and while using my ATV unit, the Dolby Vision signal wouldn't activate on my LG OLED. No problem seeing the Dolby Vision signal come on my OLED using the Roku Ultra unit.

Are you sure HDR is activated on your display. What model is your display?

 

[Robert Crawford]

This article confirms that Max uses a custom player and not the tvOS player, so functions related to dynamic range and frame rate matching are not working on the Apple TV. This also affects audio features, like "Reduce Loud Sounds."

Warner Bros. Discovery blew it with the new Max app for Apple TV

A series of own goals defines the company's big shift to "Max."

www.macworld.com

Yeah, those of us that only have ATV are screwed so far with this Max app when it comes to 4K/UHD programming.

Also, it's still going to be interesting to see if they try to charge us the extra four dollars for 4K/UHD programming. I'll be pissed considering I'm a DirecTV Premier subscriber.

 

[Neil S. Bulk]

Current subscribers are grandfathered into the 4K tier for the first six months.