Enterprise - 2/27

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  1. Stephen Orr

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    Interesting episode, to say the least.
    Vulcan date-rape, anyone? (my wife's observation)
    Who'd have thunk that the old vulcan mind melt could be considered slipping someone the mickey?

    Really liked Trip's friendship with the Vulcan engineer. "We've been working on a way to speed up the Vulcan mating cycle." [​IMG]
     
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    Good episode. I like the idea of emotional Vulcans. This episode almost makes up for the horrible way they handled it in the 5th movie.
     
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    I felt the episode would have been better if they'd made the male Vulcan more physically attractive, as a way of further explaining why T'Pol would be interested in him. As it was, he was just a sullen, dark character who you'd think she'd avoid.

    Also, I may be wrong, but I thought Vulcans HAD to mate every 7 years, but there was nothing stopping them from doing so more often - it's just they go ballistic every 7 years.

    T'Pol's prospects for dating ANYONE on the Enterprise just fell through the floor if they can only have nookie every seven years.
     
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    Yeah, but imagine what a wild ride that 7 year nookie would be, especially if the vulcan looked like Jolene Blaylock.

    The episode, for some reason or another, gave me tired-head. I cant explain it, but it just didnt hold my interest. I couldnt concentrate. I recorded it, so Ill watch it some time when I have more patience. Did anyone else get tired-head?

    -ikiru
     
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    I don't think that mind-melds were ever regularly practiced. Spock used them, but he was a unique Vulcan in extraordinary circumstances.
     
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    Remember TNG's infamous "mind rape" episode?

    Once again, we may be "boldly going" where previous Treks have gone before.

    This episode was a little daring, though--a spectacular near-miss. There was much to commend it; the renegade Vulcans were an interesting development.

    Speaking of development, the emphasis on each cast member's uniqueness and personality has been a consistent theme of late. And, for me, it's working.

    Our local UPN affiliate runs Voyager reruns at 11:30 p.m. After having seen two hours' worth of Enterprise last night, I thought it might be interesting to expose myself to the nightmare that had come before it.

    Amazing. Really amazing. I can't even remember, at this writing, which episode of Voyager is was that I caught last night. I went into glazed-eye mode after the thrilling Jerry Goldsmith theme music. And to think: Voyager came damn near to bringing the entire franchise down.

    Enterprise is bringin' it all back home, baby. And if Nemesis turns out as good as I think it will. ...
     
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    I hate to be a party pooper, but am I the only one who feels that these new shows are just 90210 in space? Where's the exploration? Where's the wonder that the original show had? For example, in the new series, the cliche is that every day the captain is having a leisurely recline in his cabin when a bored voice comes over the intercom to announce "We are being hailed yet again Captain by some dreary boring and totally alien ship that wants something or other." Captain responds "Ah, ok, do we know who they are? No? I guess I'll come on up to the bridge then." This feels exactly like Voyager. Anyone remember how they handled these sorts of first encounter situations in the original show? So much more drama and excitment ...
     
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    I just watched this episode during a lunch break. It was very disturbing, and I felt really bad for T'Pol because the mindmeld pushed too far was the exact equivalent of mental rape, and T'Pol's damn tough to rebound as she did, but I think it'll have some repercussions down the road (her willingness to trust has been dropped a few more notches).
    Archer can be so damn stiff and wooden in his speech pattern, that's painful to watch. It's like he's trying to keep his chest puffed out while talking.
    I've never seen such a plump Vulcan before in my life. [​IMG]
    Does anyone think that Trip's question on Vulcan mating was due to his interest in T'Pol? So no one know if there's a female equivalent to Ponfarr for Vulcans?
     
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    Another snoozer, albeit one with some semi-interesting Vulcans and the inevitable naked Nip'Pol scene.
    Would it kill the writers of a supposed science fiction television series to write some science fiction stories? Almost every episode seems like an anemic retread of a story from TNG or Voyager, and in the case of recycled TNG stories, sans drama/suspense.
    Am I the only one who thought that going back to the roots of the Federation would result in more exciting TOS-style storytelling? How about Archer going mano-a-mano against the lizard captain of an alien starship? Or several members of the Enterprise crew trapped on a hostile planet with bloodsucking monsters menacing them? Or a tense space battle with an invisible enemy craft? Are these kinds of stories too exciting for today's audience?
    For those of you who celebrate character development, these stories don't prevent it. Exciting, TOS-style stories can feature plenty of character development, if talented writers are allowed to do their thing. However, seeing how Berman and Braga write every other episode (and have "story by" credit in most of the rest) I foresee many more deadly dull stories in our future. [​IMG]
     
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    Is Jason Seaver even playing with us anymore?

    Steve: I agree with most of your sentiments. But I've been pleased with Enterprise so far. You mentioned lizard-like aliens. Thinking of the Gorn?
     
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    I thought this is was one of the best or the best episode thus far. I liked the relationship between T'Pol and the vulcan male. The relationship was a little rushed but I guess that is what you get when you only have an hour.
     
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