What i want to do is create a bi wire pair using the beldon 5000 series 12 awg 2 conductor cable. I will get a two runs per cable, twist them and terminate 2 leads x 4 conductors on one end, and 4 x 4 conductors bi-wire on the other end. i will sleeve both runs seperately (neon red/red techfles), twist them, then use thin strips of clear heat shrink at various points of the cables, then use clear tech flex and re-sleeve the two twisted cables to hold then in a nice pseudo loom. then vampire wire bananas (some of the nicest large gauge bananas ive seen, without going to wbt/clones), and crimp 4 gold plated spades on the other end via bi-wire fashion. im going to make one single cable first to see how it comes out. If it comes out nice, I will make a second cable exactly the same, and sell it on Ebay as a high end bi-wire cable. I see some expensive cables on ebay, but a lot of them use really poor construction and termination. you'd see $400 cables with 5 dollar small gauge generic taiwan bananas. -------------- regarding the crimp too, i sent an enquiry to vampire wire, for some advice on the best tools with a link to parts express. this is the banana i want to use. Part #HDS5 - Spade Connector Made from pure copper, then gold plated. #HDS-5 will accept cables up to 12-10 ga., in size. Termination may be either solder or crimp. When crimping, be sure to crimp opposite the seam. The #HDS-5 will fit the large barrier strips that are used on some equipment. Priced per 2 pairs. Price: $9.50 though i do not know what crimp opposite of the seam means. along with this http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshow...number=360-680 This high quality, precision manufactured tool, features a full cycle ratcheting mechanism to assure consistent terminations. The multi-purpose frame accepts interchangeable dies that produce crimps to industry standards. Ergonomic, pivoting design provides maximum crimping force with a minimum of handle pressure. Features precision high carbon steel construction, molded grip, and positive ratcheting action with emergency release. Net weight: 1-1/2 lbs. Dimensions: 8-3/4" x 2-1/2". Purchase any on the optional interchangeable dies below to crimp the connectors of your choice. Which die do i use? http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=360-684 or http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=360-686 would this be considered an insulated or non insulated crimp?