An Anti-Spam Article that ticks me off...

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  1. DeathStar1

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    http://www.freep.com/money/tech/mwend22_20021122.htm

    >>>It is intricate computer software, said Ralsky, that can detect computers that are online and then be programmed to flash them a pop-up ad, much like the kind that display whenever a particular Web site is opened.

    "This is even better," he said. "You don't have to be on a Web site at all. You can just have your computer on, connected to the Internet, reading e-mail or just idling and, bam, this program detects your presence and up pops the message on your screen, past firewalls, past anti-spam programs, past anything.
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    I guess now I know what those message popups I have to keep closing now and then are. Now we know this idiot suceeded.

    But here's a question... Can't Microsoft Develop an anti-Spam program integrated directly into Outlook Express? It would scan it for certain words and block known spam accounts from reaching your inbox. They would either be deleted automatically, or sent to a seperate web page hosted by Microsoft, where you can access these emails and delete them manually.

    They could also develop a program that somehow blocks these desktop pop up adds.

    Can it be done, and would Microsoft be willing to spend the time to do it?
     
  2. Chris Lockwood

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    > block known spam accounts from reaching your inbox

    But the spammers keep using different addresses, so any list of "known accounts" would be obsolete by the time you downloaded it.
     
  3. Keith Mickunas

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    There's a messenger service on your system that can be turned off to get rid of those popups. You'll have to look for info on your versions of Windows. If you're using NT, 2k, or XP look under Administrative Tools -> Servces and disable Messenger.

    As for blocking spam, there are various service that document known spammers and servers that allow spam and block mail from them. There are organizations working together to do this. They also check incoming e-mail for evidence that its forged. Check out spamcop.net for one. My e-mail is handled on a friend's server and he filters all incoming mail and I very rarely get spam, one or two a week max, and I've been using this e-mail address for quite a while now.
     
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  5. Keith Mickunas

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    I didn't pay much attention to the article. Now I realize this is old news, and it caused the guy a big headache. A bunch of people figured out where the house is and posted it to the net. He ended up on thousands of mailing lists. It was hysterical. He was whining about it and threatening to sue some of the anti-spam activists over it. You might be able to find more at slashdot.org about it, I think that's where I read about it.
     
  6. Glenn Overholt

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    Yeah, I want this idiot's email address so I can send all of my spam back to him.

    Glenn
     
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    I want to send him a can of SPAM.
     
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    Thank God I use a Mac. Safari blocks all pop-ups, things like Gator simply don't exist, and Mail.app catched on average all but one or two junk e-mail a day. The rest go to the junk mail folder where a quick scan ensures that no legit mail got caught, then I do a boune to sender which returns the mail as coming from an invalid e-mail account. Has worked pretty well, cut my spam down to an average of only 10-15 or so spams e-mails a day.
     
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    What are the consequences of disabling Messenger in Windows 2000? Is there a reason I would want it enabled?
     
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    None unless you are plugged into a LAN (like at work). It's used for messages like "Server going down in 5 minutes, please log off"
     
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    Macs aren't immune, they're just mostly ignored due to their miniscule market share. If I wanted to be a hacker I would go after Macs so that Mac users would have to stop being so smug and saying things like "Thank God I use a Mac" when bad things happen to PCs.
     
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    > Just like telemarketing cannot be done to cell phones

    I wish. I get junk calls on mine. I'm not sure how the caller would know it's a cell before they call.
     
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    Cells use prefixes that are not in the normal landline exchange. They could get a list of these prefixes very easily
     
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    Buzz, I agree with making spam illegal, or at least taxing it enough to make the activity unprofitable.

    http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htfo...16#post1539416

    But some express the view that a law to ban it would be unenforceable.

    Until then, anyone who makes life hell for the Ralsky's is a good guy in my books.
     
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    1. disable the messenger service on your PC if you're running windows.

    2. get a firewall and block all incoming traffic. this should be done anyway, spam or no.
     
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    What I didn't mention before was that in that article he stated that he did have an opt-out function, but he didn't say that he was doing anything with it.

    Also, if I selected opt-out for Acme razor blades, I might not get any more razor blade ads, but that wouldn't have anything to do with every other ad that goes out, and by opt-ing out, as we all know, only verifies your email address.

    I see no reason why spam cannot be stopped by my ISP. Why should all of us have to get filters when they can do it with just one? Crap, they're getting $20. a month.

    Glenn
     
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    Bingo [​IMG] If you can't catch Ralsky and his fellow leeches, go after the people who hire them. Should be considerably easier. They can't ALL move their operations off-shore, can they?
     
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