Just thought I'd share this since I recently talked my friend into getting a new motherboard. About 1.5-2 years ago he ordered a performance system from some online company whose name I forget at the moment. I was urging him to build his own box or just let me do it but for some reason he wanted it all completely assembled. So he got it in the mail; great looking full tower case, 9700 Pro, 512mb of ram, P4 2.53. And it seemed to work geat. One time I went over and I tried to overclock. The bios let me do it to around 2.8 but when we went to play a game it crashed, so we just put it back to stock. Just recently we've been chatting on MSN and I had the notion of sending him the program CPU-Z just to get some system specs from his PC. I asked him to check what speed his AGP bus was running at and he told me 1x!! Thought this was pretty crazy since his card is able to run at 8x AGP speed. I gave him a friendly "I told you so" thrashing but told him to go into his BIOS and see if he can increase the bus speed. Wasn't successful, his chipset was an SiS, older one I'm guessing. Sooo I told him to buy a new motherboard, the same one I got which is an Asus with the i865PE chipset, one of the best values out there right now for Pentium users. He REALLY didn't want to. Instead he was planning on using his money on a fancy $300 water cooling system because he thought getting his system even cooler would make things run more stable and fast. I finally persuaded him to spring for the much cheaper motherboard upgrade. Results: - Games now run 2-3 times as fast - I easily overclocked his CPU to just above 3Ghz, and it's super stable - Boot is much quicker Now I just hope he'll listen next time!