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Hello I am quite clueless with home audio and currently building a home. Attached is a screen cap of the living room. A 65" TV will be be mounted on the fireplace. I was looking at the Bose Lifestyle 525 II but wanted to ask for opinions on other options. Am I paying more for the name with Bose? Want to stick with hardwiring everything. The plan in my head was to put a center speaker below the TV, one on each side, then two on stands near the couhes that will be there to be at ear level. Down the road the main movie/sports viewing area will be in the finished basement so do not need to go crazy with speakers for the living. As of right now I have nothing in hand...The ceiling height is 13 ft if that matters in great room.

Please advise!

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nfiedler7 said:
Also will be putting speakers around the home for music so advise with these too!
This is not an insignificant feature request.

By 'speakers' how many do you mean?
By 'around the home' at how many locations do you intend to have music?

Do you intend to have the same music playing at all locations, or do you want different sources at different spots?
What about volume control - one global or each individual?

Even if your answers to all of the above are at the low end of the difficulty/complexity spectrum, achieving this AND surround sound for the living room for $2k may very well not be possible.
 

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sorry that budget is just for the family room...I am not sure as the rest of the house but probably will do maybe one ceiling speaker to each room and have several zones for controlling volume
 

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I can attach a diagram of full house if this helps with the "other" speakers. Will need to wire for all of this but do not necessarily need to install the "other" speakers as of yet. Here is the full diagram. Everything except for the bedrooms (minus the master bedroom) and the bathrooms/closet are all 13 feet. The rest are 9".
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You NEVER do one speaker per zone. Home audio is not(and hasn't been since 1970 something) set up for mono.If you must only run one speaker per room...Single source stereoYes that is a category of speaker that will net thousands of options.Then you'll need 14/4 (maybe 16/4) CL rated wire for them.
 

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nfiedler7 said:
probably will do maybe one ceiling speaker to each room and have several zones for controlling volume
Sam really is a much more knowledgeable person than I when it comes to multi-zone setups, but there is a big cost difference between "two zones" and "several zones". How many is "several"?

Again, specifics matter if there's a chance all of this is to be on one system. If that's a requirement for you, it really needs to be planned for from square one, and it may be worthwhile to treat the living room and whole house audio system as one "project" with one budget.

If it's OK for the two to be distinct systems, then it's easier to defer the rest of the rooms to another discussion, and we can stop peppering you with questions about the other rooms and just focus on the living room...
 

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I will have two separate systems. One surroud for iiving room and one for rest of house. I would like to have sound in the kitchen, dining area, living room, and throughout master suite. Each of those rooms with separate volume controls. I will most likely wire for this system but not put the speakers in (depending on how much our budget goes with the build). What do you have for suggestions for both the surround sound in living room and then for the other rooms? For other rooms would like to hook up CD/mp3/ipod/radio and for surround just cable input and dvd/blueray.

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This day and age, it is simpler to have an AVR control everything.Now that Onkyo has digital zone 2...everybody has digital zone 2.In room volume controls are really volume attenuators. The amp gets turned up...those knobs simply increase impedance(in effect lessening power). With remote apps with an AVR in control...you may not need them.
 

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Ok do you have certain products you suggest? I'm the definition of a newbie and do not know anything about home audio. How many speakers do I need?Thanks for the help!
 

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Download the manuals for...Denon 4520 (5200 isn't out yet...but the 5200 might out by now)Onkyo 5010/Integra 80.4Yamaha 3030/40Elite 79(or 89 if the manual is available yet)
 

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If I were to have a movie playing I would not be able to have anything else playing on remaining speakers with this correct?
 

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nfiedler7 said:
If I were to have a movie playing I would not be able to have anything else playing on remaining speakers with this correct?
Zone 2(3 or 4...) is not beholden to Zone 1.Those additional zones can be in use while not even using the main zone.Not to be confused with Zone B(but nothing over $1000 has Zone B anyway).
 

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Ok so go with one of those receivers then what about speakers? Would like to have one the living room set up like surround for the tv. So need probably 5 speakers with a sub there and then what for the rest?
 

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Well I was at my limit for the surround for the bose I was looking at for $2000-$2500. Im assuming with that I didnt need to buy one of those receivers you mentioned. As of now I will wire for everything but probably only purchase the speakers for the living room surround for now. Is $2,000-$2500 reasonable for receiver 5 speakers + sub?
 

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