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#1 of 73 Ruckus

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Posted October 22 2013 - 06:16 PM

Hello everyone I am new to this forum and I am looking to purchase my first home theatre. I know there are much better products out there but I was comparing these two and would love anyone's opinions. Thanks in advance
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http://t.costco.ca/B....100007649.html



http://us.onkyo.com/...ource=prodClass

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#2 of 73 Dave Upton

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Posted October 22 2013 - 06:22 PM

Onkyo for sure, far better value

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Posted October 22 2013 - 06:28 PM

Welcome to the forum Rob :)

Bose is generally not recommended because their systems either have wild frequency responses or just plain lack high and low frequency response. They are also considered overpriced and designed for WAF and trickery rather than accuracy.


While HTIB systems are mediocre to begin with those Onkyo systems are the usual recommended systems for those looking for a budget system.
JVC DLA-RS60U3D & DaLite High Power 106"
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#4 of 73 Ruckus

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Posted October 22 2013 - 07:12 PM

Thank so much for your input guys. I originally didn't want a HTIB but piecing everything together separate was getting expensive and I couldn't find any small speakers. The wife isn't fond of huge speakers everywhere. I may go with the Onkyo in my link it's on sale at my local best buy for $599.

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Posted October 22 2013 - 07:28 PM

I actually just came across this maybe I should drop the extra cash??

http://m.futureshop....1774&lang=en-CA

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Posted October 22 2013 - 08:27 PM

The Take system is small. Small speaker, small sound.

 

That is too much money for an E400 paired with the Take.



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Posted October 23 2013 - 03:16 AM

The Take system is small. Small speaker, small sound.

That is too much money for an E400 paired with the Take.


Would you happen to have a link in Canada where I could find it cheaper? It does seem pricey even with $300 off on sale.

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Posted October 23 2013 - 06:54 AM

Why not price some used speakers on Kijiji(or whatever that is)?

 

If you are on a limited budget(Which 1000 Canadian isn't exactly limited) used speakers are the number one way to expand your budget.

 

Personally, I would buy the BIC DV52 over the Take system. 5 of those(with the clrs center) will allow an 80hz crossover, which the Take do not.



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Posted October 23 2013 - 07:02 AM

I don't trust kijiji too much and I prefer new stuff although I could save a lot of money. I will still have a look at kijiji.

I am not on a strict budget if I can come across a good deal on something that is of good quality. Being a newbie to all this I think the HTIB would probably be good to me. I may buy the Onkyo one I posted try it out and if I don't like it I can always return it.

I am gonna swing by future shop soon and check out the take system before I make any purchase. I haven't seen it in person or heard it.

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Posted October 23 2013 - 07:06 AM

The letdown of the Onkyo system is the speakers. They aren't very efficient. Lack of efficiency kills the "thrill of the movies".

 

I would buy "that" AVR(which is sorta the NR515).

 

There are too many good speaker companies out there to settle for a pre-package.

 

Fluance(Canadian)

Paradigm(Canadian)

PSB(still Canadian???)

 

Fluance has sets that are far superior to what is included with the 5600 for barely $300.

http://www.fluance.c...tem.eng-97.html

 

Not sure what the Canadian price is though.



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Posted October 23 2013 - 07:14 AM

Bose is generally not recommended because their systems either have wild frequency responses or just plain lack high and low frequency response. They are also considered overpriced and designed for WAF and trickery rather than accuracy.

 

In retail we always liked selling Bose products for the high commission we made. But as far as sound, "No highs, no lows? Must be a Bose"


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Posted October 23 2013 - 07:15 AM

What you are saying makes sense and you being way more experienced then me I will take your advice. My problem is the higher quality speakers are also larger in size. The wife factor comes into play lol she doesn't want bulky speakers everywhere but I want quality sound. :)

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Posted October 23 2013 - 07:25 AM

I heard you about "need my speakers to not be large"...

 

BIC DV52

http://www.amazon.ca...ywords=bic dv52 (two pairs with the center would be <400)

 

Fluance

http://www.fluance.c...ers.eng-12.html (two pairs with a center would be <500, they way I would do it)

 

Paradigm

http://www.paradigm....itor/page=specs (I think the Atom is a tad too small for main channel use, the Mini isn't that much bigger. Two Atom, two Mini and the Center 1 is $1400, have no idea what the Canadian price is)



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Posted October 23 2013 - 08:51 AM

Those look good especially the paradigm's. I just seen these on sale regularly $249 on sale for $99. Any good?

 

http://www.futuresho...72bace6271aen02


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Posted October 23 2013 - 09:42 AM

There is no way, at all, I would buy the Take, even at $100, over the Paradigm Atom at $250.

 

Again...

 

Take low cutoff is 115hz.

Par Atom is 82hz.

 

Enormous difference.



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Posted October 23 2013 - 09:46 AM

I would put these as almost equal to the Paradigm Mini-Monitor. These are probably the same price (or even less) than the Paradigm Atom.

 

http://www.futuresho...8fa1541a6f6en02

 

What you could do...

 

Pair of the CB10 front with the Take pair for the rear. $350 in speakers(plus whatever the center is. You "could" buy the Take center...but I'd buy the Connoisseur center) and you'd have a set of speakers to keep for 20+ years.



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Posted October 23 2013 - 10:08 AM

That set up sounds pretty good I would still need a sub and a receiver. This may be something I will have to slowly put together. Why is the center channel speakers so much money? The connoisseur is almost as much as the other 4 speakers?

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Posted October 23 2013 - 10:18 AM

Cause every speaker manufacturer has the "gotcha" going on. You can probably find the Take center(it was never sold individually I don't think), Veritas(which is also on FS.CA) or CC center used.

 

I bet lots of people bought Energy speakers are reselling them. Reasons?

 

Found a good deal on Paradigm, PSB, Totem...or any of the others out there for people to find when they get upgrade-itis.



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Posted October 23 2013 - 10:20 AM

Matter of fact. If you are doing 7.1...Buy the new pair of CB10(maybe even find them used) and pair them with a used Take 5.1. I can't fathom a thought where you couldn't find a used Take 5.0 or 5.1 up there in Canada.



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Posted October 23 2013 - 10:52 AM

I actually found a supposedly "new" Energy Take ii 5.1 on kijiji for $300 brand new in the box. I sent a msg and will see if they reply. I was planning on a 5.1 setup but I could buy the CB10's for my up front speakers and sell the two that come with the set.




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