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#1 of 21 OFFLINE   natestarsfan

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Posted March 27 2013 - 02:00 PM

I have a Denon AVR-791 7.1 Receiver and a Velodyne VRP1200 Sub...I'm needing speakers...Ive narrowed it down to four choices..I leave it in the experts hands....what should I and why?

 

Polk TL 150's

Polk R85's

Energy Take Classic 5.0

Klipsch Quintet 5.0

 

 

Edited by natestarsfan, March 27 2013 - 02:08 PM.


#2 of 21 OFFLINE   schan1269

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Posted March 27 2013 - 02:58 PM

I assume you mean RM85...

 

Rock/Paper/Scissors...



#3 of 21 OFFLINE   natestarsfan

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Posted March 27 2013 - 03:43 PM

which one? and yes RM 85's



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Posted March 27 2013 - 04:02 PM

By default, out of that bunch...I'd pick the RM85, cause at least you get "close" to a proper subwoofer crossover. Those supposedly reach 95hz. None of the rest reach 120.

 

By Rock/Paper/Scissors I was intending to mean...

 

Write all 4 on a piece of paper, throw them in a hat and eithe buy the first you choose out of the hat...or shake the hat 3 times and the last one still in the hat. Cause...

 

1. None of them is stellar.

2. None of them is going to "rock the house"

3. However, they will all outperform what you had.


Edited by schan1269, March 27 2013 - 04:05 PM.


#5 of 21 OFFLINE   natestarsfan

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Posted March 27 2013 - 04:58 PM

K Thanks



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Posted March 27 2013 - 05:06 PM

To confuse you even more...Martin Logan MLT-2

 

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16882981013

 

Speakers have 4 1/2" drivers but only 110hz. Sub is a 10" model but only 37hz. But $249 shipped is pretty good. And titanium tweeters at that price?

 

Rock/Paper/Scissors/?


"Everyday room": Panasonic 58" Plasma, Dish HD DVR, Pioneer Elite vsx-23, BDP-23 BR, dv58avi universal dvd player, Paradigm Studio 20 V1, CC-450, Dayton HSU-10 subwoofer.

"Movie/Music room": Toshiba 65" DLP, Dish HD receiver, Marantz 7005, CC-4003, BD-7006, Polk LSI25's-LSi7's-LSiC, 2 original Dayton 10" "Mighty-Mites" subwoofers. (subject to change without notice).
 
Also have  MB Quart Vera VS05 +.....too much to list. Help me.
 
 

 


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Posted March 27 2013 - 05:11 PM

By the way..."rock/paper/scissors...or "lottery" method is how you buy speakers these days...whether you are spending $200-ish, $2000-ish or $20,000-ish.

 

Unless you are willing to buy all 4, and listen to them all...at your house...

 

That is what you will have to do.



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Posted March 28 2013 - 07:46 AM

I bought the energy take 5.o speakers....now I'm looking for the other 2 to complete my 7.1......can I get 2 Polk R7's and mix them with the Take's...for the rear surrounds? or should I get 2 Polk R8's and use those for the front L & R and the Takes as all surrounds??



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Posted March 28 2013 - 07:51 AM

Stick with the same brand.

 

These would go reasonable well with the Take and better than every other single speaker you will find that aren't Energy...

 

http://www.amazon.co...nergy bookshelf

 

By the way, the Take and CB/C/F use the same .75 or 1 inch tweeter of identical design.


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Posted March 28 2013 - 07:55 AM

use them as fronts?



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Posted March 28 2013 - 08:06 AM

Yes, the the entire Take as center and surrounds.

 

The bonus to the CB-5 is you can set a proper main-channel crossover of 80hz.

 

The subwoofer can then be set at 80(so it can do its job), then your center/surrounds will be set at 120.



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Posted March 28 2013 - 08:09 AM

It isn't "unheard of" to buy a 5.0(or 5.1) set for center/surround duty while buying bigger main. The KEF KHT are prime examples of center/surround for use with iQ and Q main speakers.



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Posted March 28 2013 - 01:00 PM

awesome....I might holler at you again when I start to set up my system.....might need help adjusting the crossover etc....just ordered my banana plugs..speaker wire and "Y" plug with RCA for my sub.....Man I love Monoprice! they are awesome..... Be on the lookout for "Help # 3"! LOL and thanks again!



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Posted March 28 2013 - 01:06 PM

You didn't need the y-cable for the subwoofer...but keep it if you ever do a 2nd sub.



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Posted March 28 2013 - 01:12 PM

the sub has two rca channels a L and a R .....Velodyne even recommended to get the best sound to use the Y cable....they even include a cable like it when the unit was purchased.....are you sure?



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Posted March 28 2013 - 01:16 PM

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Posted March 28 2013 - 02:37 PM

the sub has two rca channels a L and a R .....Velodyne even recommended to get the best sound to use the Y cable....they even include a cable like it when the unit was purchased.....are you sure?

We are sure.  If you remove the amp from the sub box and look at the back side of those 2 RCA inputs, there will be a summing circuit installed.  It is a requirement since these subs were designed to work with both mono LFE outputs as well as stereo pre-amp level outputs.



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Posted March 28 2013 - 02:44 PM

And if you notice, the White One even says...LFE(with a line leading to it)

 

Which if it really is LFE, if you connect, just that one, the crossover knob is rendered useless(as in it is being bypassed). Which you bought an AVR with bass management...which means you aren't using the one in the subwoofer.


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Posted March 29 2013 - 05:55 AM

Thanks again guys....and what is the"phase" button do? 



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Posted March 29 2013 - 06:48 AM

Leave that alone, unless you end up putting your sub on the back wall, facing the the fronts. That is what the phase switch does.






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