DanaRuns
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I'm a 66-year old woman who wants to DIY build out her basement into as good a home theater as I can get on a $10,000 budget.
I'm starting with a finished basement with the dimensions 7'4" High x 14'6"Wide x 26'6" Deep. It's 100% hard surfaces.
There are doors on every wall, which will limit my screen size.
I'm starting from scratch, which means it's going to cost me a bundle, but it also means I can design everything from the ground up, which is cool!
NEEDS:
Projector. Priorities are 4K, bright (dim or washed out is a no-go), high contrast, deep blacks, color that pops and is fairly close to true. I'm budgeting $3,000 for this, so I know I'll have to make compromises. Right now I'm considering the Epson 505UB, which gives me the contrast, blacks, color and some other features, but sacrifices picture quality with its "faux-K" 4K. Are there better projectors in my price range? While it's hard (impossible?) to meet all my needs at $3K, I'd like to find a projector in that range (or maybe a little more) that gets me as close as possible. The law of diminishing returns means a small improvement can cost a ton of money, so I'm looking for that sweet spot, the best I can get on a budget. Whatcha got for me?
Screen: I have no idea. Given the room limitations, I think I'm looking at 100" to 120" max. I assume that means I should go with a 16x9. I would love a cinemascope screen, but given the size limitations I'm wondering if that's practical. I assume I'll want a 1.0-1.3 reflection, but would love a screen that would give deeper blacks, great contrast, and popping color. I don't need to worry about ambient light reflection, as the whole room will be painted a flat, dark color.
Surround Sound: To start, I have two ancient Bowers & Wilkins 802 series 2 loudspeakers in need of TLC. As old as they are, they still sound better than a lot of consumer loudspeakers.
I suppose my best budget course would be to use my B&W 802s for L and R, and get B&W surround speakers. Maybe spend my money on a 700 series center channel (at 66 years old, hearing clear dialog is my priority), and go with 600 series for surround? Or should I dump the 802s and go with a cheaper complete surround system, like Klipsch reference or some such? Also, my AVR allows a 7.1 surround max, and what I'd prefer if I stick with that is a 5.1.2 Dolby Atmos system, which means I'd have to find Atmos speakers.
Surround Receiver: I have a Denon AVR S930H.
It's not that powerful (~90 watts per channel into 8 ohms), it's a lower end Denon, and it will do only a 7.1 surround. I mean, I'm on a budget, so if I have something I should probably use it and spend my money on the other needs. But this seems really limited. Can I get away with this for now and have it sound good in this space? And if so, what's a better overall sound, a 7.1 surround or a 5.1.2 Dolby Atmos configuration, and can the Denon even do the latter? (It must, right? I mean it says it's Dolby Atmos.)
ROOM DESIGN:
Right now the room is all white, with all hard surfaces. And it has a 7'4" ceiling. What do I need to do to make this room attractive, sonically good, and without ambient light problems?
Paint. I'm going to paint the walls a flat dark color. Grey? Burgundy? Dark blue? Dark brown? Are there brands or anything I should watch out for?
Acoustic treatment. It will need sound absorption panels. I don't know what to get or where to get them. But I do know I can blow my whole budget on that feature alone, which I don't want to do. I want acoustic treatment for $1,000 or less. What do you suggest?
Lighting. I'm also going to want to do the right kind of lighting that doesn't shine any light on the screen. Wall sconces? Recessed can lighting? LED strips? A combination? I'm also going to want it dimmable by remote control. What suggestions do you have that won't bust the budget?
Seats. The room will have only one row of three seats. These seats, which are Seatcraft Virtuoso, with heat and massage, because I want even sitting there to be a great experience. I don't know whether or not to get the bass shakers. Anyone have experience they can share?
Ceiling: I could paint it and leave it as it is. I could put up some acoustic panels or something. Or I could do a soffit with center detail, though the ceiling is really too low for that. One thing I'm considering is putting in these ceiling tiles that look like metal but are made of PVC.
Those would be a great look, and would provide some texture for sound diffusion, but I'm wondering if they would be too bright and too reflective and would actually cause more acoustic problems rather than solving them, and if I'd be better off with the existing flat drywall ceiling just painted black.
Miscellaneous. If there's any money left over (ha!) I'm also going to put in some sort of soffits or other feature on the walls to break up the flat surfaces. Maybe something like this, where there are soffits with sconces in-between the acoustic panels.
EPILOG
I want to put all this together on a tight $10,000-$15,000 budget. That means I'm going to have to DIY it, as much as possible. I'm not afraid of the work, but it's not like I have a lot of A/V, electrical, or construction skills or tools, so I'm going to have to farm out some of this.
But before I go sinking my money into all the wrong things, I wonder if those of you who have the knowledge and experience I lack can help me wring every drop of value out of that $10,000-$15,000 in order to get me to a first home theater that will make me feel immersed in the experience and not make me unhappy with something every time I sit down to watch a movie.
Give me your thoughts on any or all of these items, please.
I live in Northern California, so any resources you can point me to would be greatly appreciated.
I'm starting with a finished basement with the dimensions 7'4" High x 14'6"Wide x 26'6" Deep. It's 100% hard surfaces.
There are doors on every wall, which will limit my screen size.
I'm starting from scratch, which means it's going to cost me a bundle, but it also means I can design everything from the ground up, which is cool!
NEEDS:
Projector. Priorities are 4K, bright (dim or washed out is a no-go), high contrast, deep blacks, color that pops and is fairly close to true. I'm budgeting $3,000 for this, so I know I'll have to make compromises. Right now I'm considering the Epson 505UB, which gives me the contrast, blacks, color and some other features, but sacrifices picture quality with its "faux-K" 4K. Are there better projectors in my price range? While it's hard (impossible?) to meet all my needs at $3K, I'd like to find a projector in that range (or maybe a little more) that gets me as close as possible. The law of diminishing returns means a small improvement can cost a ton of money, so I'm looking for that sweet spot, the best I can get on a budget. Whatcha got for me?
Screen: I have no idea. Given the room limitations, I think I'm looking at 100" to 120" max. I assume that means I should go with a 16x9. I would love a cinemascope screen, but given the size limitations I'm wondering if that's practical. I assume I'll want a 1.0-1.3 reflection, but would love a screen that would give deeper blacks, great contrast, and popping color. I don't need to worry about ambient light reflection, as the whole room will be painted a flat, dark color.
Surround Sound: To start, I have two ancient Bowers & Wilkins 802 series 2 loudspeakers in need of TLC. As old as they are, they still sound better than a lot of consumer loudspeakers.
I suppose my best budget course would be to use my B&W 802s for L and R, and get B&W surround speakers. Maybe spend my money on a 700 series center channel (at 66 years old, hearing clear dialog is my priority), and go with 600 series for surround? Or should I dump the 802s and go with a cheaper complete surround system, like Klipsch reference or some such? Also, my AVR allows a 7.1 surround max, and what I'd prefer if I stick with that is a 5.1.2 Dolby Atmos system, which means I'd have to find Atmos speakers.
Surround Receiver: I have a Denon AVR S930H.
It's not that powerful (~90 watts per channel into 8 ohms), it's a lower end Denon, and it will do only a 7.1 surround. I mean, I'm on a budget, so if I have something I should probably use it and spend my money on the other needs. But this seems really limited. Can I get away with this for now and have it sound good in this space? And if so, what's a better overall sound, a 7.1 surround or a 5.1.2 Dolby Atmos configuration, and can the Denon even do the latter? (It must, right? I mean it says it's Dolby Atmos.)
ROOM DESIGN:
Right now the room is all white, with all hard surfaces. And it has a 7'4" ceiling. What do I need to do to make this room attractive, sonically good, and without ambient light problems?
Paint. I'm going to paint the walls a flat dark color. Grey? Burgundy? Dark blue? Dark brown? Are there brands or anything I should watch out for?
Acoustic treatment. It will need sound absorption panels. I don't know what to get or where to get them. But I do know I can blow my whole budget on that feature alone, which I don't want to do. I want acoustic treatment for $1,000 or less. What do you suggest?
Lighting. I'm also going to want to do the right kind of lighting that doesn't shine any light on the screen. Wall sconces? Recessed can lighting? LED strips? A combination? I'm also going to want it dimmable by remote control. What suggestions do you have that won't bust the budget?
Seats. The room will have only one row of three seats. These seats, which are Seatcraft Virtuoso, with heat and massage, because I want even sitting there to be a great experience. I don't know whether or not to get the bass shakers. Anyone have experience they can share?
Ceiling: I could paint it and leave it as it is. I could put up some acoustic panels or something. Or I could do a soffit with center detail, though the ceiling is really too low for that. One thing I'm considering is putting in these ceiling tiles that look like metal but are made of PVC.
Those would be a great look, and would provide some texture for sound diffusion, but I'm wondering if they would be too bright and too reflective and would actually cause more acoustic problems rather than solving them, and if I'd be better off with the existing flat drywall ceiling just painted black.
Miscellaneous. If there's any money left over (ha!) I'm also going to put in some sort of soffits or other feature on the walls to break up the flat surfaces. Maybe something like this, where there are soffits with sconces in-between the acoustic panels.
EPILOG
I want to put all this together on a tight $10,000-$15,000 budget. That means I'm going to have to DIY it, as much as possible. I'm not afraid of the work, but it's not like I have a lot of A/V, electrical, or construction skills or tools, so I'm going to have to farm out some of this.
But before I go sinking my money into all the wrong things, I wonder if those of you who have the knowledge and experience I lack can help me wring every drop of value out of that $10,000-$15,000 in order to get me to a first home theater that will make me feel immersed in the experience and not make me unhappy with something every time I sit down to watch a movie.
Give me your thoughts on any or all of these items, please.
I live in Northern California, so any resources you can point me to would be greatly appreciated.