Should we go there?How do you keep your wives?
Should we go there?How do you keep your wives?
LOL! Maybe not.Should we go there?
It's a never-ending rabbit hole. How do you keep your sanity? How do you keep your wives?
This is a wonderful and very centering post. Thank you for it. Thanks for the perspective on my journey, and thanks for the great advice and reassurance.That’s actually a really great question.
The marriage question I’ll leave to others. I’m either still married because of blind stupid luck that I couldn’t possibly repeat if I tried, or perhaps because I make a great boeuf bourguignon. I don’t think it’s my looks and I know it’s not my money or my singing voice, that’s for damn sure.
As to the sanity - I think in many ways this is like any other big ticket item be it a car or a house or a fancy computer, etc. There’s always something more you could add, and there’s always more money could spend. There’s the realistic wishlist and then there’s the “if I won the lottery” wishlist. It’s very easy to let your own voice in your head get crowded out by other ones. We’ve probably all fallen into that trap at some point or another. Most of us can’t tell the difference between 94% perfect and 95% perfect - which is sort of the area we’re living in at the high end - but most of us whether we realize it consciously or not have egos that require us to believe we can.
My philosophy for home theater and just about everything else is “don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good.”
You joined us with the most well-researched and well-thought out conception of what you wanted to accomplish and how you wanted to accomplish it that I’ve ever seen from a brand new member. I’ve been here 20 years so I’m not saying that lightly. You have good instincts and good research skills.
If you ignored every suggestion you got and went with the original list you came in with, you would still have one hell of an awesome home theater. So please know and feel good about your baseline starting point - you already started with a winning hand.
At one point early in the thread, someone suggested (and I seconded) starting with the things you had that you could keep and building on to that and replacing as necessary instead of all in one fell swoop. That might be a great way to reduce costs, see how the stuff you have plays in a real world environment, and give you a basis to make a more informed decision about where to go next.
For example - you’ve got a great receiver. Is it the best receiver that’s ever been made in the history of receivers? Probably not. Is it way better than the one I have (which has served me well for nearly a decade now)? Absolutely. So why not consider putting decisions about new receivers and amps to the side for now, and see how everything sounds using what you’ve got? Best case scenario, you have a small fortune. Worst case scenario, you end up replacing it down the line, and who knows, maybe the shortages that are driving up prices now will be less of an issue later on.
Similar thought with subwoofers: some people swear by two. Others are satisfied with one. Why not consider starting with one and adding a second in the future if you discover it’s necessary, instead of laying down the extra cash up front only to discover that you could have been happy without it?
None of the options you’re considering (both the ones you came in contemplating and the ones you’ve taken as suggestions) are going to be bad. You are at a point where you are gonna have a great setup no matter which final choices you settle on. It’s ok to want stick to a budget. It’s ok not to take every upsell you’re offered. You’re in a good place no matter which direction you go in. If your gut is telling you, “these suggestions I’m getting all sound great but I’m getting away from goals that are important to me,” trust that feeling too. No one here is going to judge you for saying “thanks but no thanks” at any point.
Some do, some don’t.It's a never-ending rabbit hole. How do you keep your sanity? How do you keep your wives?
My HT hobby is actually instrumental in maintaining my sanity although the extent I actually do so is certainly debatable.How do you keep your sanity? How do you keep your wives?
There should probably be a support group for people like us.
Here are some cost cutting suggestions to consider. I seriously doubt you would regret any of them.
Instead of the Anthem MRX 740 for $3,100, a refurb Marantz SR7015 for $1,799.
Instead of the Anthem or Emotiva XPA-DR3 amp for $2,200-2,300, an Emotiva XPA-3 for $1,399.
Maybe instead of dual SB4000s you go with a single SB16... Dual subs are more complicated to incorporate into the room and doing it badly will make things worse.
I probably woulda gone w/ a couple separate Emotiva amps so at least the front LCRs get more/better dedicated power to feed them (maybe w/ an XPA-3) -- the surrounds and in-ceiling Atmos channels don't need as much power, so even a cheaper BasX model (or combo pair perhaps) should do fine for those.
Otherwise, looks good!
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The XPA-11 is populated with three of our High-Powered Single Channel Modules, and four of our Stereo Modules, for a total of three high-powered channels and eight lower-powered channels. This combination is ideal for a surround sound system that is used for both music and home theater listening, and includes height speakers. The three front speakers, which are the most critical for both music and home theater listening, are powered by the three high-powered channels. The surround channels, and the height channels, are driven by the lower powered stereo modules. Even though the channels differ in terms of maximum power output, they feature perfectly matched electrical characteristics, and the same superb Class A/B sound quality.
Now I have to wait for the puppies to reach 8 weeks old and go to their homes so I can start actually putting this project together.
Yes, the room has puppies right now.
So, that's $4,400 for the whole setup, as opposed to $3,400(?) just for the Anthem receiver? It's a good decision.I was able to stay in the same zip code as my budget by getting a refurbished Marantz Pre/Pro for $2,200 instead of $3,199, and sinking 11 channels into one Emotiva Class H power amp for $2,199. And that's still $2,200 over what I had budgeted.
I kinda tried to do that in one amp. In this amp the Left, Right, and Center channels are high power @ 300 watts each into 8 ohms (all channels driven), while the surrounds and atmospherics get 80 watts into 6 ohms apiece, all channels driven (my surrounds are 6 ohm speakers). According to Emotiva:
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And if I don't like it I can, of course, add another amp. This was how I was able to stay in the neighborhood of my budget while powering 11 speakers and getting 300 watts to each of my front B&W speakers. But this was kind of a pig in a poke, so
I was able to stay in the same zip code as my budget by getting a refurbished Marantz Pre/Pro for $2,200 instead of $3,199, and sinking 11 channels into one Emotiva Class H power amp for $2,199. And that's still $2,200 over what I had budgeted.