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#461 of 1083 OFFLINE   JoHud

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Posted January 16 2014 - 02:08 PM

Considering WB more than likely has spent MILLIONS of $$ hopefully getting clearances, licensing music and actor appearances, and paying off Fox in some fashion to get the home video rights, I suspect they will pull out all the stops and light it up with all kinds of various editions, with some editions catering to the casual fan and other versions catering to the die-hard super-collector who's waited a decade or more, all in order to maximize their return on their rather substantial investment for years to come. 

 

I'd certainly like to know how many suitcases full of cash WB/DC had to throw at Fox to get the distribution rights to this show.  Considering how much time, money and effort that went into getting the show, one would thing a full HD remastering of the show would have no issue whatsoever getting financed.

 

But who knows?  I don't think WB ever released an HD version of a pre-digital classic TV series.  Will they stick to their guns or go whole hog remastering in HD?

 

Also, to address prior comments in the thread. I don't think anyone is saying "Blu ray or no sale".

 

I wouldn't be surprised at all considering how rabid parts of the Batman fanbase can be.

 

Personally I wouldn't really mind if it wasn't.  It's not like it was ever intended to be viewed at that definition and would make an already cheesy show look even cheesier.  Which is a good thing or a bad thing depending on your POV



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Posted January 16 2014 - 02:20 PM

Warner, keep in mind, is the studio that has conscientiously made sure that *every* TV release of theirs has had no music edits.   If they can't clear it yet, they don't release it as we've seen with the detective shows. This is why for the moment I'm not worried about them succumbing to CBS/Paramount syndrome.



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Posted January 16 2014 - 02:30 PM

While it would be astonishing to see the show only released on DVD, I think it would rankle far more fans if there are edits of any kind. After this wait, there'd better not be.



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Posted January 16 2014 - 04:16 PM

I'd certainly like to know how many suitcases full of cash WB/DC had to throw at Fox to get the distribution rights to this show.  

 

Same here, if I was Fox, I say we do this release together and each get 50% of the profits. I wonder is this means Fox no longers has any rights to the show anymore? I'm starting to think Fox dosen't know what it's losing these days, last year they lose Star Wars to Disney's greed and now WB swoops up Batman. 



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Posted January 16 2014 - 04:28 PM

Same here, if I was Fox, I say we do this release together and each get 50% of the profits. I wonder is this means Fox no longers has any rights to the show anymore? I'm starting to think Fox dosen't know what it's losing these days, last year they lose Star Wars to Disney's greed and now WB swoops up Batman. 

 

Just because WB is distributing the DVDs doesn't mean that Fox no longer has rights. I bet they still hold TV distribution rights.



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Posted January 16 2014 - 04:32 PM

It's come up before that WHV has a policy of stripping off logos of other extant studios (see The Man Called Flintstone).  On the other hand, in this case, this must either be a joint WHV/Fox project or WHV must have paid a ton to license the show from Fox, so there seems to be a better chance that the Fox logo will appear.

 

Even if they don't trim the Fox logo at the end, how much you want to bet it is a modern one rather than the proper vintage one? There are plenty of logo substitutions these days, as well as deletions. It still annoys me that WB cut the Solow Productions logo from the end of the Man From Atlantis episodes on their DVD of that (especially since the end theme music continues to play out over said logo).

 

Ideally, every episode would have the "Batman...in color" frontcap and 1966 vintage 20th Century Fox endboard, but I suspect that is unlikely. Even nicer (and more unlikely) would be, perhaps, the ABC Color Presentation front bumper on the first episode and the ABC Color Presentation endboard on the last episode per disc (seems really redundant to have them on every single one).



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Posted January 16 2014 - 04:37 PM

Just because WB is distributing the DVDs doesn't mean that Fox no longer has rights. I bet they still hold TV distribution rights.

 

I would hope they still have syndication rights, If not WB will have gone too far for me.



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Posted January 16 2014 - 05:57 PM

Just happy that after all these years, one of THE most requested titles for DVD is finally coming to fruition whether it's on DVD or Blu-Ray formats and the complete series to boot. I'm guessing availability would be late summer or early fall as a guess.



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Posted January 16 2014 - 06:13 PM

Jett over at the outstanding Batman On Film website confirmed that the show will be released as a 3 season box set!!!

 

Maybe WB and Fox can let fans vote on packaging and artwork. Brannon Braga did this for at least one of the Star Trek Enterprise seasons for blu ray.

 

Very excited and still very shocked about the Batman 66 news!! Finally!!!



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Posted January 16 2014 - 06:14 PM

I think the answer might be this: Warner has a better distribution system than Fox, plus also has dibs on the Batman character (the 1989 movie and sequels were Warner). My guess is, it's something of a joint venture, distributed by Warner.

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Posted January 16 2014 - 06:38 PM

I think the answer might be this: Warner has a better distribution system than Fox, plus also has dibs on the Batman character (the 1989 movie and sequels were Warner). My guess is, it's something of a joint venture, distributed by Warner.

 

I don't know if WB has better distribution, just last year Beetlejuice The Animated Series and Mad TV are both being handled by Shout Factory and last year as well Mama's Family and China are being released through Time Life/Star Vista. WB seems to like let other companies release most of their older back catolouge ,it will be interesting to know if they did this all themsleves or got some help from others.



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Posted January 16 2014 - 08:07 PM

A few tv series to other companies doesn't really make me in anyway say they let other companies handle more. Especially when their the company with the very active assembly line division churning out back catalog releases nearly every week. And it not slowing down the regular retail release division either from sometimes putting out older material.

 

And given that i'd say it says more about those individual shows then Warner. Since their MOD line is clearly churning out mostly profit (given that sales probably knock off the production costs to the list price) them giving some stuff away is most likely due to A. The license seeker offering a major good deal or B. the product itself not being expected to sell well which makes the license seeker's' money seeming the safer option.


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Posted January 16 2014 - 08:46 PM

A few tv series to other companies doesn't really make me in anyway say they let other companies handle more. Especially when their the company with the very active assembly line division churning out back catalog releases nearly every week. And it not slowing down the regular retail release division either from sometimes putting out older material.

 

And given that i'd say it says more about those individual shows then Warner. Since their MOD line is clearly churning out mostly profit (given that sales probably knock off the production costs to the list price) them giving some stuff away is most likely due to A. The license seeker offering a major good deal or B. the product itself not being expected to sell well which makes the license seeker's' money seeming the safer option.

 

 

Precisely. They might farm a few things out, but they also distribute product for other companies, not the least of which is the BBC. They must be doing something right, as they took over the US distribution of BBC titles from the previous distributor (Fox) in the late 1990s.



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Posted January 16 2014 - 09:14 PM

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Posted January 16 2014 - 10:44 PM

Holy High Definition, Batman! My excitement level just tripled after seeing that image!  I think this is the home video equivalent of Viagra! 

Nice to hear they are giving it the royal treatment--I hope they are removing the dirt and keeping DNR to a minimum...


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Posted January 17 2014 - 01:52 AM

Of course that is no guarantee of a BluRay release. It can simply be that they are going back to the original elements to create the best possible new master that will from then all be used for all purposes such as DVD or sales to foreign and domestic stations wishing to broadcast in HD.

 

However, I think it does increase the liklihood of a BluRay release. This series has an immense appeal to a large group of collectors (which would be Batman fans in general, as well as those of us who love sf/fantasy TV, or so called "cult" TV, or TV from the Sixties etc) but probably not much appeal to the casual buyer.

 

Therefore, I would expect these sets to be aimed squarely at the premium collector market and hence a BluRay offering as well as a DVD one - since that market is the most likely to have HD players and TV and willing to spend the money on a BD set.

 

It's really all about sales. For most series you just want to appeal to the largest possible consumer base, and that is still DVD.

 

I would assume that, for example, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea also went back to the original film elements and was probably scanned in HD - the episodes look absolutely glorious and are pristine - but I don;t think we're ever going to get a BD release of it.



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Posted January 17 2014 - 03:11 AM

Yeah...I'm gonna break up my set when it's delivered later this year and give the DVDs to my grandkids.  I'll probably keep the DVDs with the first appearance of the four major villains...as well as the George Sanders Mr Freeze, False Face and the Chandells.

 

Great HD pic of Adam West BTW.



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Posted January 17 2014 - 05:26 AM

 

 

Great HD pic of Adam West BTW.

 

I'll say! The episodes I occasionally catch in syndication don't look anything like that! That color is so rich it can almost stop one's heart!



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Posted January 17 2014 - 05:42 AM

I'd be stunned if there weren't a BD release. I think Warner will do right by fans with this release -- as several insiders have said right here on HTF over the years, they're fans too and have been dying to get to do this. 

 

(For the record, no BD release would not in any way be a dealbreaker. Let's be real.)



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Posted January 17 2014 - 06:58 AM

I hope the original 20th Century Fox logo is present at the end of each episode...worries me now that WB is releasing it (that they may plaster it.)

 Well the Superman serials that Warner released had the Columbia Pictures logo so that is a hopeful sign.

 

I speculated on another TV site in the comments section of an article announcing that Fox TV is going to broadcast a new series called Gotham which will include all the Batman characters before Bruce Wayne put on the cape ( think Smallville but Bruce is not the main character), that perhaps that meant Warner Bros and Fox had worked out their differences and that the Batman 1966  would get released and now a few days later it seems it will. Wow

 

Price will be a factor. If they release it on blu ray with I Love Lucy price of $129 per season there will be many posts stating people will not buy.

 

It will be interesting to see how they release it. It ran twice a week the first 2 seasons with Season 1 being a mid season replacement series. Assuming that means 13 weeks or 26 episodes I would guess we will get a season 1 set, two season 2 sets with 26 episodes each, and a final season 3 set with 26 episodes. It would be even better if they released a complete series set first.






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