A Few Words About While we wait for A few words about...™ Lawrence of Arabia -- in 4k/UHD Blu-ray (1 Viewer)

[Worth]

A fully 4k post-production workflow is significantly more expensive than 2k. More importantly, it's also much more time-consuming. These big Marvel tentpoles have tight release schedules of three per year, and the only way the many VFX vendors can hit their deliverables on time is to do their work at 2k.

That and the fact that the average filmgoer isn't going to notice a difference - 2K holds up pretty well even on an IMAX screen.

 

[Brian Husar]

A fully 4k post-production workflow is significantly more expensive than 2k. More importantly, it's also much more time-consuming. These big Marvel tentpoles have tight release schedules of three per year, and the only way the many VFX vendors can hit their deliverables on time is to do their work at 2k.

Makes sense. I do wonder why Black Panther was done 4K and the only one. But it does make sense especially for making the release dates.

 

[OliverK]

Makes sense. I do wonder why Black Panther was done 4K and the only one. But it does make sense especially for making the release dates.

We can be VERY grateful for the occasional title like Black Panther as obviously not too many people care that much about 4k DCP's on either the viewer or the studio side.

 

[Michel_Hafner]

Good real 4K UHDs: The Sony UHDs from 35mm negatives. Lucy, Mortal Engines, Greatest Showman, soon LOA.

 

[JoshZ]

Makes sense. I do wonder why Black Panther was done 4K and the only one. But it does make sense especially for making the release dates.

Couldn't say. Whatever time and money was wasted on 4k certainly could have been put to better use fixing the lousy CGI and the terrible green-screen in that movie. The only Marvel movie with end-to-end 4k is the fakiest looking one of the whole bunch.

 

[Brian Husar]

Couldn't say. Whatever time and money was wasted on 4k certainly could have been put to better use fixing the lousy CGI and the terrible green-screen in that movie. The only Marvel movie with end-to-end 4k is the fakiest looking one of the whole bunch.

Very true.

 

[B-ROLL]

Couldn't say. Whatever time and money was wasted on 4k certainly could have been put to better use fixing the lousy CGI and the terrible green-screen in that movie. The only Marvel movie with end-to-end 4k is the fakiest looking one of the whole bunch.

That is the effect of the Vibranium ...

 

[OliverK]

Couldn't say. Whatever time and money was wasted on 4k certainly could have been put to better use fixing the lousy CGI and the terrible green-screen in that movie. The only Marvel movie with end-to-end 4k is the fakiest looking one of the whole bunch.

There is more variation in quality in Black Panther and I would think this is one of the reasons that 4k is rarely used with CGI heavy movies - the difference between real 4k and less than perfect CGI gets more obvious than in cases where everything gets taken down to 2k. That being said state of the art 2k CGI can certainly look better than for example that fight on the rails in Black Panther.

 

[OliverK]

Good real 4K UHDs: The Sony UHDs from 35mm negatives. Lucy, Mortal Engines, Greatest Showman, soon LOA.

Which is very slim pickings for people who appreciate higher resolution.

 

[JoshZ]

There is more variation in quality in Black Panther and I would think this is one of the reasons that 4k is rarely used with CGI heavy movies - the difference between real 4k and less than perfect CGI gets more obvious than in cases where everything gets taken down to 2k. That being said state of the art 2k CGI can certainly look better than for example that fight on the rails in Black Panther.

Honestly, the real problem with Black Panther is that, despite spending $200 million on it, they couldn't be bothered to shoot a single second of footage outside of a soundstage. All those outdoor scenes in green-screened "Africa" were embarrassing.

 

[OliverK]

Honestly, the real problem with Black Panther is that, despite spending $200 million on it, they couldn't be bothered to shoot a single second of footage outside of a soundstage. All those outdoor scenes in green-screened "Africa" were embarrassing.

It is a bit hard for me to follow your line of argument here as there were location shots in North America, South America, Africa and Asia.

I will leave it at that as even though Black Panther is not a perfect film I am still happy that it has been done in 4k, showing that 4k is possible even with a CGI-heavy superhero movie.

 

[JoshZ]

It is a bit hard for me to follow your line of argument here as there were location shots in North America, South America, Africa and Asia.

With actors in them? No, just background plates for the green-screen.

 

[Stefan Andersson]

Donald Sutherland talks about Nicolas Roeg´s work on Lawrence:

"Look at Omar Sharif on a camel, coming from the other end of the desert towards the camera. That’s Nic. Look at the Sahara’s empty foreground, and suddenly the smokestacks of a steamer crossing from left to right along the unseen Suez canal. That’s Nic."

Source:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...-nicolas-roeg-remembered-by-donald-sutherland

Would you like to comment further on the above quote, Mr. Harris?

 

[Robert Harris]

Donald Sutherland talks about Nicolas Roeg´s work on Lawrence:

"Look at Omar Sharif on a camel, coming from the other end of the desert towards the camera. That’s Nic. Look at the Sahara’s empty foreground, and suddenly the smokestacks of a steamer crossing from left to right along the unseen Suez canal. That’s Nic."

Source:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/20...-nicolas-roeg-remembered-by-donald-sutherland

Would you like to comment further on the above quote, Mr. Harris?

Not comfortably. I would presume these would have been considered second unit shots, but I’d not go there without consulting the camera reports. I do know that Freddie selected the mirage lens at Panavision. Heavy bugger...

 

[Brian Husar]

With actors in them? No, just background plates for the green-screen.

With actors in them? No, just background plates for the green-screen.

They did shoot a lot in Atlanta and created a set for the battle scenes so not all of it was green screen.

 

[Joe Bernardi]

Has Lawrence of Arabia been released in 8K yet?

 

[Dee Zee]

Just a reminder, Lawrence on the big screen September 1 and 4.

 

[rsmithjr]

Lawrence in 70mm at the Castro in SF on Aug 10 and Aug 11. It is pretty much an annual event in Aug or Sept.

 

[OliverK]

Has Lawrence of Arabia been released in 8K yet?

What do you mean by released? So far we have not even seen a 4k UHD release so I would settle for that for the meantime

 

[DP 70]

Remember the new 70mm/Datasat print is a 4K digital out , I do not think it looks as good as the 1989 version but the 5.1 audio
is very good.