Mark Y
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Mark Arnold, who was a consultant on the set, denies DVNR was used. I disagree, I think it clearly was. Whether Shout Factory or Classic Media did it is another question.
I have mixed feelings about this collection. Very nice to have this stuff, but it was clearly a rush job and the compilers dropped the ball in many ways. All the Tennessee Tuxedo cartoons themselves are present and accounted for (although some have the title cards missing) but the rest of the elements of the show are scattershot. They also released a so-called Underdog complete series, which does include all the Underdog cartoons -- but again, some have replaced title cards from the late 1990s/early 2000s and other minor edits. The Underdog set at least attempts to put the shows back into something resembling their original half-hour format, but it's clear the compilers were using a lot of guesswork as far as what went where (Tooter Turtle, for instance, was not part of the Underdog show). I can't complain as long as all the cartoons are there, but they aren't. Go Go Gophers and Commander McBragg are all present and accounted for, but the rest of the characters -- King & Odie, Tooter Turtle, Hunter, Klondike Kat -- are just sampled and more or less used as filler. What's worse, The King & Odie cartoons were two-part cliffhangers and the ones that are included sometimes include both halves of a story, but sometimes only one. (And in at least one case, both halves are included but separated from one another with other cartoons in between.) As far as what IS there, I'd rather have it than not have it. But I would rather have had them with original titles, no edits, no PAL speedup issues, no DVNR, and with all the cartoons from the various characters included.
I'm not too concerned about not having them in the original broadcast order, etc., because repetition was inherent in all these shows. The King & Odie, Hunter and Tooter Turtle were all part of "King Leonardo And His Short Subjects" with new episodes of the first two created for the first season of "Tennessee Tuxedo And His Tales." After that it gets murky. When "The Underdog Show" premiered, reruns of The Hunter (both from KL&HSS and TT&HT) moved over there and Tooter Turtle repeats were added to "Tennessee Tuxedo." So just the last bunch of Hunters and King & Odies were actually produced for TT&HT, but ultimately, all the cartoons of all three characters from KL&HSS ended up there (or on Underdog) during its run -- therefore, they were all fair game for inclusion on these two sets.
They gave it the old college try, but to include only one half of a two-parter indicates someone was severely asleep at the switch.
I don't want to be too rough on them since I know they ran into a number of issues trying to put these sets together, and I am very glad to have at least a representative collection of some of my favorite cartoons in a couple of pretty decent DVD sets. (I know they had issues because I sent them a few things -- some cartoons had no audio, etc. and I was glad to be able to help.) But I wish they'd taken more time to get all the elements together -- I am a big fan of these cartoons and I would have gladly waited six months or a year if it would have made these sets better. Oh well.
I have mixed feelings about this collection. Very nice to have this stuff, but it was clearly a rush job and the compilers dropped the ball in many ways. All the Tennessee Tuxedo cartoons themselves are present and accounted for (although some have the title cards missing) but the rest of the elements of the show are scattershot. They also released a so-called Underdog complete series, which does include all the Underdog cartoons -- but again, some have replaced title cards from the late 1990s/early 2000s and other minor edits. The Underdog set at least attempts to put the shows back into something resembling their original half-hour format, but it's clear the compilers were using a lot of guesswork as far as what went where (Tooter Turtle, for instance, was not part of the Underdog show). I can't complain as long as all the cartoons are there, but they aren't. Go Go Gophers and Commander McBragg are all present and accounted for, but the rest of the characters -- King & Odie, Tooter Turtle, Hunter, Klondike Kat -- are just sampled and more or less used as filler. What's worse, The King & Odie cartoons were two-part cliffhangers and the ones that are included sometimes include both halves of a story, but sometimes only one. (And in at least one case, both halves are included but separated from one another with other cartoons in between.) As far as what IS there, I'd rather have it than not have it. But I would rather have had them with original titles, no edits, no PAL speedup issues, no DVNR, and with all the cartoons from the various characters included.
I'm not too concerned about not having them in the original broadcast order, etc., because repetition was inherent in all these shows. The King & Odie, Hunter and Tooter Turtle were all part of "King Leonardo And His Short Subjects" with new episodes of the first two created for the first season of "Tennessee Tuxedo And His Tales." After that it gets murky. When "The Underdog Show" premiered, reruns of The Hunter (both from KL&HSS and TT&HT) moved over there and Tooter Turtle repeats were added to "Tennessee Tuxedo." So just the last bunch of Hunters and King & Odies were actually produced for TT&HT, but ultimately, all the cartoons of all three characters from KL&HSS ended up there (or on Underdog) during its run -- therefore, they were all fair game for inclusion on these two sets.
They gave it the old college try, but to include only one half of a two-parter indicates someone was severely asleep at the switch.
I don't want to be too rough on them since I know they ran into a number of issues trying to put these sets together, and I am very glad to have at least a representative collection of some of my favorite cartoons in a couple of pretty decent DVD sets. (I know they had issues because I sent them a few things -- some cartoons had no audio, etc. and I was glad to be able to help.) But I wish they'd taken more time to get all the elements together -- I am a big fan of these cartoons and I would have gladly waited six months or a year if it would have made these sets better. Oh well.