Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (2019) Non-Spoilers! (3 Viewers)

[Sam Favate]

(Kinda sucks that the first half of this is all just stuff from the previous movies. TROS part starts at 1:12)

I think it's effective. The best trailer for Revenge of the Sith is the one that begins with Alec Guinness' dialogue from A New Hope.

 

[Sam Posten]

Let's go!

 

[TravisR]

(Kinda sucks that the first half of this is all just stuff from the previous movies. TROS part starts at 1:12)

The shot at 1:33 is incredible.

 

[AcesHighStudios]

Kylo Ren is not a Skywalker. He is a Solo. It doesn't matter who his mother is. The Rise of Skywalker has nothing to do with Kylo Ren. It does have everything to do with Rey.

 

[AcesHighStudios]

That's exactly what made Snoke's death so interesting, precisely because it broke with that trope.

And that is precisely why Palpatine is back. Because it isn't a trope. ALWAYS two there are . . .

 

[Greg.K]

The shot at 1:33 is incredible.

It all looks great.

 

[AshJW]

Kylo Ren is not a Skywalker. He is a Solo. It doesn't matter who his mother is. The Rise of Skywalker has nothing to do with Kylo Ren. It does have everything to do with Rey.

We'll see.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

Of course Kylo Ren is a Skywalker. His mother is a Skywalker. It doesn’t matter what the last name is. It’s a simple fact. Kylo Ren is the son and grandson of Skywalkers, therefore he is one.

I’m no less my mother’s son just because she has a different name than I do.

This is silly. Lineage isn’t a matter of opinion.

 

[Sam Favate]

I'm deep into the saga these days as the kids and I are ending the summer watching every film in chronological order.

You know who else is potentially a Skywalker? Palpatine. He talks in Episode III about how Darth Plaegus taught (him, since he's no doubt the apprentice) how to manipulate the midicholrians that create life to create new life, which suggests he created Anakin inside Shmi's womb ("There was no father," she said). If that's so, and it's been hinted at many times (including a recent in-canon comic book, which was picked up in the press), they're all descendants of Palpatine -- Anakin, Luke, Leia, Kylo (and maybe Rey). The Rise of Skywalker? Featuring the return of Palpatine? Hmmmm.....

 

[AcesHighStudios]

Of course Kylo Ren is a Skywalker. His mother is a Skywalker. It doesn’t matter what the last name is. It’s a simple fact. Kylo Ren is the son and grandson of Skywalkers, therefore he is one.

I’m no less my mother’s son just because she has a different name than I do.

This is silly. Lineage isn’t a matter of opinion.

No, he isn't a Skywalker. He is a Solo. It matters what you're father's name is. Luke Skywalker isn't an Amidala. He is a Skywalker. "The Rise of Skywalker" will have absolutely nothing to do with Kylo Ren.

 

[AcesHighStudios]

Unless Palpatine is the son of Shmi Skywalker, Palpatine isn't a Skywalker.

 

[Sean Bryan]

Of course Kylo Ren is a Skywalker. His mother is a Skywalker. It doesn’t matter what the last name is. It’s a simple fact. Kylo Ren is the son and grandson of Skywalkers, therefore he is one.

I’m no less my mother’s son just because she has a different name than I do.

This is silly. Lineage isn’t a matter of opinion.

Right

 

[Sean Bryan]

No, he isn't a Skywalker. He is a Solo. It matters what you're father's name is. Luke Skywalker isn't an Amidala. He is a Skywalker. "The Rise of Skywalker" will have absolutely nothing to do with Kylo Ren.

Wrong

 

[Patrick Sun]

https://imgur.com/3c8uNCz

 

[Adam Lenhardt]

This is silly. Lineage isn’t a matter of opinion.

But nor is the fact that the humans in the Star Wars universe adhere to patrilineal surnames.

I have no doubt that the primary antagonist being the grandson of Anakin Skywalker is thematically important for the story being told in this final chapter. But it seems too convoluted to name the movie The Rise of Skywalker if the character being referred to is known as Ben Solo or Kylo Ren.

The other Saga titles are staggeringly literal: The Phantom Menace is Palpatine; clones attack in Attack of the Clones; the Sith get revenge in Revenge of the Sith; Luke Skywalker is A New Hope; the Empire strikes back in The Empire Strikes Back; the Jedi return in Return of the Jedi; there is an awakening of the Force in The Force Awakens; first Luke and then Rey is The Last Jedi.

I would be very surprised if the title doesn't reference someone who is literally called Skywalker, as a surname or a title.

 

[TonyD]

I would be very surprised if the title doesn't reference someone who is literally called Skywalker, as a surname or a title.

I don’t disagree but who might that be.
There aren’t any left that we are aware we of.
So a completely new character in the last movie?

 

[Robert Crawford]

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I don’t disagree but who might that be.
There aren’t any left that we are aware we of.
So a completely new character in the last movie?

Or Rey's true lineage is revealed to be a Skywalker. Perhaps, a Skywalker rises from the dead.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

But it seems too convoluted to name the movie The Rise of Skywalker if the character being referred to is known as Ben Solo or Kylo Ren.

I’m not suggesting the title has to refer to him.

I’m merely stating that Kylo Ren/Ben Solo is a member of the Skywalker family - by his birth lineage he absolutely is. Whether or not that plays into this specific film’s story is another matter.

 

[AcesHighStudios]

Wrong

No, it isn't. And because it isn't, it absolutely will not play into the film's story, cause they know how names work.

 

[Jake Lipson]

And that is precisely why Palpatine is back. Because it isn't a trope. ALWAYS two there are . . .

Why? Because George Lucas wrote it that way? You're missing my point. Rian Johnson shifted it away from what it has always been so that it could be something else that's new, and that is what I liked about it.