Star Wars Episode VIII "The Last Jedi" Coming December 15, 2017 (1 Viewer)

[Edwin-S]

That's for sure. Because we all know what constitutes a good STAR WARS movie is one that polarizes people with an incoherent story and terrible characterization and characters.

 

[Mike Frezon]

Merry Christmas, you good ol' Star Wars fans, you!

TIme to crank up the bootlegs of the ol' SW Holiday Special--something we can ALL agree on!

 

[Robert Crawford]

Merry Christmas to all and yes, they're only movies.

 

[Tommy R]

Fighting furries at 11!

 

[Edwin-S]

Merry Christmas to all and yes, they're only movies.

Merry Christmas, you good ol' Star Wars fans, you!

TIme to crank up the bootlegs of the ol' SW Holiday Special--something we can ALL agree on!

Yes, Merry Christmas to all even if we may not agree on what makes a good STAR WARS film or any film for that matter.

Fighting furries at 11!

I'll have to get dressed in my curmudgeonly Mr. Badger costume right around that time.

Edit: I cannot resist adding this with that fighting furries at 11 line.

 

[B-ROLL]

Merry Sithmas!

 

[Alex...]

Empire

 

[TravisR]

^ As he should be.

 

[Bryan^H]

I hope it has force ghost Han Solo. If that happens it might lighten my mood about how 7 turned out.
That would be sweet if he confronted Kylo and gives him some much needed words of wisdom. It would change my entire outlook of the trilogy. And give his death some purpose like Obi-Wan.

So I posted this back in 2016, and promptly got laughed off this thread. But I'm still not sure I was wrong. In The Rise of Skywalker, was

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Han Solo a "force ghost" , or just a ghost? Was it all in Ben's head?

 

[Colin Jacobson]

So I posted this back in 2016, and promptly got laughed off this thread. But I'm still not sure I was wrong. In The Rise of Skywalker, was

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Han Solo a "force ghost" , or just a ghost? Was it all in Ben's head?

I vote

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all in Ben's head. Don't see how Han could be a "force ghost" since he wasn't a Jedi.

 

[Tino]

I really don’t think spoilers are needed in a 5 year old thread.

 

[Bryan^H]

I vote

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all in Ben's head. Don't see how Han could be a "force ghost" since he wasn't a Jedi.

I really don’t think spoilers are needed in a 5 year old thread.

Ok Tino, but if I get chewed out, it's your fault

Yes, Colin I thought that too but I see that scene around town (internet) labled, and referred to as Han's "Force Ghost" scene. So it made me wonder.

One thing I think I got right is that I predicted that Kylo Ren (Ben) is redeemed at the end of the trilogy to laughs, and boos. I don't think I was too far off with that one.

 

[Tommy R]

I believe it was Harrison Ford himself who was asked about it, saying, “A force ghost? What’s a force ghost? I don’t know what a force ghost is, and I don’t fucking care!”

 

[Greg.K]

One thing I think I got right is that I predicted that Kylo Ren (Ben) is redeemed at the end of the trilogy to laughs, and boos. I don't think I was too far off with that one.

Really? That doesn't seem like it would be much of a stretch given Darth Vader's redemption. But maybe people were hoping for something different.

 

[Bryan^H]

Really? That doesn't seem like it would be much of a stretch given Darth Vader's redemption. But maybe people were hoping for something different.

I thought it was a logical/predictable outcome for Ben Solo. Others did not agree

 

[Tino]

I thought it was a logical/predictable outcome for Ben Solo. Others did not agree

As soon as he killed Solo I knew he would be redeemed and also that he had to die.

 

[Sam Favate]

Is/was George Lucas a Catholic? Because the idea of being redeemed at the end of your life, no matter how heinous a person you were, is kind of a uniquely Catholic thing.

I find that many films and TV shows create characters so reprehensible that they cannot be redeemed, and then they go ahead and redeem them.

 

[Bryan^H]

Is/was George Lucas a Catholic? Because the idea of being redeemed at the end of your life, no matter how heinous a person you were, is kind of a uniquely Catholic thing.

I find that many films and TV shows create characters so reprehensible that they cannot be redeemed, and then they go ahead and redeem them.

No, he is Buddhist.

And I'm not sure George even believed that it made a character "good". Because Anakin did the unthinkable and destroyed the man that enslaved him for most of his life isn't too far of a reach. His son was being electrocuted by an evil monster that treated Vader as more of a useless, old wizard that had basically outlived his usefulness ("take your fathers place at my side") than a respected partner in crime ("I told you to remain on the command ship -angry-).

Same with Kylo Ren. One good deed doesn't forgive a life of evil, and make everyone happy.
Redeem is probably not the best word I could have used.

 

[Worth]

Is/was George Lucas a Catholic? Because the idea of being redeemed at the end of your life, no matter how heinous a person you were, is kind of a uniquely Catholic thing.

He was raised in a strict Methodist family.

 

[TravisR]

So I posted this back in 2016, and promptly got laughed off this thread. But I'm still not sure I was wrong. In The Rise of Skywalker, was

Spoiler

Han Solo a "force ghost" , or just a ghost? Was it all in Ben's head?

I feel that it's in Ben's head but if Han had been a ghost (Force or otherwise), I think he would have handled it the same way that Ben imagined. Han loved his son no matter what and wanted the best for him.