TravisR
Senior HTF Member
Yeah, now he is.Is Ren the top guy in the First Order?
Yeah, now he is.Is Ren the top guy in the First Order?
Is Ren the top guy in the First Order? If so how is he going to have his redemption moment like Vader did with the Emperor?
Is Ren the top guy in the First Order? If so how is he going to have his redemption moment like Vader did with the Emperor?
Probably sacrifice himself to stop something Hux will do.
In this age of social media whining, there will be no ending that doesn't cause a segment of the fanbase to lose their minds and proclaim the movie to be the worst moment in the history of mankind.This is why I would hate to be JJ Abrams trying to write a completely satisfying conclusion to this trilogy (saga).
You got that right!In this age of social media whining, there will be no ending that doesn't cause a segment of the fanbase to lose their minds and proclaim the movie to be the worst moment in the history of mankind.
Have you not payed attention to what he writes? I don't think he would know a "completely satisfying conclusion" if it came up and slapped him on the face.This is why I would hate to be JJ Abrams trying to write a completely satisfying conclusion to this trilogy (saga).
I disagree. He is one of the best filmmakers/writer around in my opinion and has become a whipping boy of late unfairly.Have you not payed attention to what he writes? I don't think he would know a "completely satisfying conclusion" if it came up and slapped him on the face.
Yeah but you never saw Thise children killed. It was off screen. And other than a few dopey commanders and a rebel officer that’s it.
Imo it’s more hardcore and less forgiving having Kylo kill his dad Han Solo on screen.
I ask myself "why" was the murder of the children not shown? The answer simply is - murder of children is considered probably the most awful thing, ever. Murdering a man in the twilight of his years, even if he's a relative, is still horrible, but IMHO not as awful.
The question for me is whether or not Kylo Ren is even interested in being redeemed. I don't think he would say he is. Granted, Vader wasn't quite, either, but when Luke spoke with him about it, he just kept citing that Luke doesn't know the power of the Dark Side. That Kylo is now in charge, and could have called off the First Order to spare the assault on the Resistance but chose not to do so, feels significant to me. Vader was never in a position to do something like that, because overthrowing the Emperor took his life.
I think Vader gave us a clue,somewhat. The way Vader said "It's too late for me, son" had a note of hope in it. Even though he denied it, it was the first time Vader spoke in the voice of a father. It was, for Vader, a very gently delivered line. It felt emotional, almost as though the tone of the line completely worked against what he was saying. As though there was good in him after all.
The conflict in Kylo Ren seems along these lines to me. His being torn apart, the light calling to him. I am unsure if we're meant to believe he resolved that by killing Solo and Snoke.
I have a feeling there's going to be a redemption. After all, it's J.J. in charge of Ep. 9, and as we all know, J.J. loves repeating stories. Loves it a lot.
My guess is that he dies in Rey's arms.
Yeah, showing a bunch of kids getting chopped up would have just been tasteless. Having the shot of Vader igniting his saber as the kid is looking at him is powerful and it allows your imagination to fill in the awful blanks.I think Lucas didn't show it because he didn't need to; it was shocking enough as it is.
I have a feeling there's going to be a redemption. After all, it's J.J. in charge of Ep. 9, and as we all know, J.J. loves repeating stories. Loves it a lot.
I really wish that Rian Johnson would write and direct Episode IX to see where he would take the story after what he did with The Last Jedi.
Probably sacrifice himself to stop something Hux will do.
This is why I don't want J.J. to do the final episode. Not because he loves repeating stories, rather he is now faced with a difficult task to writing the conclusion of the Skywalker saga. I really wish that Rian Johnson would write and direct Episode IX to see where he would take the story after what he did with The Last Jedi.