Speakers may not work on some receivers? Why not?

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  1. Martin Fontaine

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    I know about the 4 Ohms vs. 8 Ohms issue, but what other factor could make a certain set of speakers not suited for a certain receiver?

    I talked to a Paradigm rep yesterday, I'm interested in upgrading my plastic HTiB Speakers to Titans (Mains), Atoms (Rears) and CC170. He told me I'll be fine with my Kenwood 509, but I asked just like that, how much were the Studio 100s and not only are they way over my budget but apparently, my Kenwood would be no good for them, that I could damage it in the long run. Anyone knows why?
     
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    Hi Martin, Short answer = clipping. That Kenwood wouldn't be able to drive a load like the Studio 100's (which dip below 4 ohms) without causing distortion. I'm sure another member can jump in and explain in more detail.

    Aaron
     
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    Shane, I've heard the exact opposite thing about Yamaha/Paradigm combos. When I bought my system 2+ years ago, I asked about this sort of thing specifically and was told that bright receivers (such as Yamahas) are a good match with warm speakers (such as Paradigm).

    Maybe others can clear this up...
     
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    The Monitor line I would describe as "warm". The Studio line, with a lot of amplification, I feel sound bright, almost harsh (at very loud levels, above ref). "Bright" meaning more emphasis in the upper frequencies, and lacking a smooth, "airy" feel. The studios sound very crisp to me, but still very detailed, and will definitely be affected by the choice of amplification.

    I would not expect lower end Yamahas to pair well with Studios, but the top models would likely sound great, but you never know. It's up to the individual's tastes.
     
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    Actually, even with 105wpc x 6, I would not expect my Marantz SR-6200 to work completely effectively with 40s. I would either upgrade to external amplification, or upgrade to a more powerful receiver.
    A friend of mine is running a studio CC and 40s as mains via an SR-19 (120wpc, I believe), and it is pretty amazing, but the highs are a bit harsh when turned up. It's doesn't sound quite like clipping, but I can't tell if it's because they are not getting enough oomph from the amp or not (probably is). That is at levels much, much higher than comfortable listening though...[​IMG]
     
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  10. Harry Lincoln

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    This is a bit off-topic but what would B&W600 series speakers be classed as (warm/bright). I have a full set of these running off a Yammy DSP-A3090, I love the sound, just curious of how the B&W sound would be described? I'm guessing they would be a 'warm' sounding speaker but I dont have anything to compare them to. Opinions?

    I also have a low end Yammie RXV493 (I think) when using this receiver to power the B&Ws the sound is quite harsh at higher volumes compered to the 3090.

    I take it the low end Yammies are considerably brighter than the high end Yammie receivers.

    Harry.
     

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