Peter Mazur
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Queen: A Night At The Opera at #230?!?!!!
This list is just plain wrong.
This list is just plain wrong.
The Motown sound seems to be very under represented in this list. Where's Diana Ross and the Supremes, Four Tops, Temptations and the likes.So please name what great ALBUMS they produced. Of course, this list does include important compilations, so these acts - who really exemplified the term "singles acts" - could have appeared there. I guess they didn't think they could find any great Motown compilations...
I guess after the AFI started doing their lists, Rolling Stone just wanted to get in on the act.Actually, RS have been doing this kind of list for years. Albums, singles, concerts, blah blah blah - they're not copying AFI...
As far as I know the "Immaculate Collection" was not an album, but a greatest hits release. If these count than the whole chart is off.Than(sic) it's off.
#11. Elvis
#21. Chuck Berry
#27. Robert Johnson
#30. Muddy Waters
#52. Al Green
#53. Ray Charles
#60. Sly
#64. Spector
#92. Buddy
#129. Hank
#135. Elton
#147. Otis
#178. Byrds
#179. Curtis Mayfield
#180. Abba
#196. Nuggets
#198. Little Walter
#220. Fess
#222. Neil Diamond
#225. Complete Hank Williams (which makes #129 unnecessary)
#234. Patsy Cline
#242. Jerry Lee Lewis, The Killer, The Hawk...and you really NEED to own his entire Sun Collection, at least!
Brian Eno's fantastic production and DEVO's amazing quirky musicI saw them play a small club at the Univ. of Pennsylvania in 1989. They were just awesome and hilarious to watch. A very creative team of musicians like the Talking Heads but quirkier.
I submit that at least ONE of this band's many superb albums is more universally admired than, say, anything by:
Bjork
Buzzcocks
Alice Cooper
Depeche Mode
Devo
Hole
Husker Du
Cyndi Lauper
MC5
and many of the other bands represented by this enormously narrow-minded list from an obviously too like-minded group of judges.I'd be curious how many albums you have by those artists vs the Moody Blues, Dick It's obvious you're a big big fan of them, but regardless of that, the likes of the MC5s, Depeche mode, Devo, Husker Du were big big influences on music in the 80s & 90s. Bjork is an artist who will be remembered years from now & thoroughly deserves the recognition she's been getting lately.
You say "universally admired" - well, obviously you're wrong about that or the Moody Blues would be on that list, right?
A whole bunch of my favourite records aren't on that list. Am I going to get my knickers in a twist over it? Not a chance
Do I like the list? Not really, it's much the same as any other "top 500" list in magazines, and has just as much value. I generally don't like any lists like these - their value, to me, is like the AFI lists: a way to get some reccomendations to things a little off the beaten path. A list of Rolling Stones & Beatles albums doesn't tell me anything new.
Pitchforkmedia is in the middle of doing their revamped "top 100 albums of the 90s", it's interesting how little crossover there is. Anyone who repeats the old mantra of there not being any good music these days needs to have a browse through their list & take a few risks.
Bjork is an artist who will be remembered years from now & thoroughly deserves the recognition she's been getting lately.Another instance where lists like this aren't wholly well advised. I myself think Bjork deserved MORE recognition on the list. Dick felt otherwise. But we agree that Eminem is overrepresented.
Music, like all art, can't effectively be quantified. It's not the sum of it's parts or a mathematical formula as to which disc is better than the next. It's personal and artistic. The only thing you can be sure of when you make such a list is that you are going to have a great deal of disagreement on the contents of that list... or that which is left off altogether.
I saw them play a small club at the Univ. of Pennsylvania in 1989. They were just awesome and hilarious to watch. A very creative team of musicians like the Talking Heads but quirkier.Then you saw the "TOTAL DEVO" tour. I also saw them during this period, they were fantastic live, and I was amazed at how precise they were as musicians.
#27. Robert JohnsonYou could say this is a greatest hits album but it's also the complete collection when you throw in Vol 2.
Think about it, try to rate Cyndi Lauper against Robert Johnson??? That's another level completely.
greatest hits album... the complete collectionWhatever, the Robert made 78s. I doubt that he had a table of them for sale at his gigs either...and no T-shirts!
I'm not sure what the point of this discussion was, Cohesive albums vs. compilations?
Then you saw the "TOTAL DEVO" tour. I also saw them during this period, they were fantastic live, and I was amazed at how precise they were as musicians.I agree Philip - a great performance.
Jim: Yeah, I realize this is a totally subjective kind of list, and none of us should take it personally. I am admittedly a big Moody Blues fan and do not share your opinion regarding their redundancy. But look at it this way:I'm not a huge Moody Blues fan, but I do agree there should be a place for them on that list. On The Threshold of a Dream would be my specific choice.
I don't think the Moody Blues are universally admired however, I think they're universally familiar thanks to Nights in White Satin.