Michael__M
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Earlier this week I asked the members for some help with my system. My new PSB's just were not sounding full enough for me. I received several great responses and some good advice. I tested some of the theories this last week. After playing with my system for a few days, here are my results.
Yamaha RX-V640, PSB Image 5T's, 9C, Infinity IL10 rears, HSU STF-2
Placement- there is definitely a sweet spot for placement. If I leave the speakers just in line and beside my big screen, there is very little bass response and the image is muddy. If I bring them all the way in front of the TV, the image is strong but I lose the bass. I found that placing the speaker baffle just if front of the plane of the TV gave me the bast of both worlds. I think getting them too far from the wall killed the bass and too far back blocked the imaging.
Power- In my large room (20x30x10), power makes a difference. My Yamaha RX-V640 just doesn't have what it takes. I am borrowing my cousin's Denon 5803 and WOW! The extra power ( and other things) make the speakers come alive. I still have them crossed at 60HZ and there is still far better bass response and overall richness than before. I even played movies without the sub and you could feel the effects. Needless to say this is a gigantic leap in quality and price of the receiver, but at least I know it makes a difference. I don't see myself getting the 5803 (read, I don't see my wife letting me get the 5803). I just need to find a happy medium, 4802?
Sub- The HSU just doesn't do it for me. One interesting thing is that the bass response really got smoother for me if I fired the HSU forward instead of to the floor. The bass sounds punchy, not smooth, unless I aim it at me. I figured this could be due to the second floor of the house not being a good solid base for the sub. Anyway's, it's going back ASAP. I'll probably get an SVS after the new receiver.
Wiring- OK, I know this is one of those topics but I just couldn't resist. My cousin was over at the house and was listening with me. I wired up everyting on the Denon just like I had it with the Yam ( using my 14g Monster XP). It sounded good. After about an hour, I went to check on my kiddo for a few minutes and came back. When I got back I noticed the staging was thrown off. The solid imaging I had on my Sade track before I left was gone. I stood in front of each speaker and could hear a difference in the sound. My cousin started laughing and told me he had switched on of the speaker wires to his higher end Monster cable he brought ( I don't know the name, it is huge and cost a couple hundred a pair he said). I was arguing with him earlier that speaker wire was all the same. I guess I lost that argument. I can't say it sounded better or worse, that's a personal preference; but it definitely sounded different. The tweets were not as bright, but they sounded more detailed. You could hear things on the good wire that you just couldn't hear on the other. I don't even know if that makes sense.
Feel free to comment or give me more advice. I am still playing with the placement of the speakers, forward and rear. It's fun to hear the difference in the imaging and surround effects with the placement changes. I'm in love with the 5803. My wife can see the gleam in my eye and I think it scares her. Must..resist.. . This post is long enough.
Enjoying my system, finally
Michael Moon
Yamaha RX-V640, PSB Image 5T's, 9C, Infinity IL10 rears, HSU STF-2
Placement- there is definitely a sweet spot for placement. If I leave the speakers just in line and beside my big screen, there is very little bass response and the image is muddy. If I bring them all the way in front of the TV, the image is strong but I lose the bass. I found that placing the speaker baffle just if front of the plane of the TV gave me the bast of both worlds. I think getting them too far from the wall killed the bass and too far back blocked the imaging.
Power- In my large room (20x30x10), power makes a difference. My Yamaha RX-V640 just doesn't have what it takes. I am borrowing my cousin's Denon 5803 and WOW! The extra power ( and other things) make the speakers come alive. I still have them crossed at 60HZ and there is still far better bass response and overall richness than before. I even played movies without the sub and you could feel the effects. Needless to say this is a gigantic leap in quality and price of the receiver, but at least I know it makes a difference. I don't see myself getting the 5803 (read, I don't see my wife letting me get the 5803). I just need to find a happy medium, 4802?
Sub- The HSU just doesn't do it for me. One interesting thing is that the bass response really got smoother for me if I fired the HSU forward instead of to the floor. The bass sounds punchy, not smooth, unless I aim it at me. I figured this could be due to the second floor of the house not being a good solid base for the sub. Anyway's, it's going back ASAP. I'll probably get an SVS after the new receiver.
Wiring- OK, I know this is one of those topics but I just couldn't resist. My cousin was over at the house and was listening with me. I wired up everyting on the Denon just like I had it with the Yam ( using my 14g Monster XP). It sounded good. After about an hour, I went to check on my kiddo for a few minutes and came back. When I got back I noticed the staging was thrown off. The solid imaging I had on my Sade track before I left was gone. I stood in front of each speaker and could hear a difference in the sound. My cousin started laughing and told me he had switched on of the speaker wires to his higher end Monster cable he brought ( I don't know the name, it is huge and cost a couple hundred a pair he said). I was arguing with him earlier that speaker wire was all the same. I guess I lost that argument. I can't say it sounded better or worse, that's a personal preference; but it definitely sounded different. The tweets were not as bright, but they sounded more detailed. You could hear things on the good wire that you just couldn't hear on the other. I don't even know if that makes sense.
Feel free to comment or give me more advice. I am still playing with the placement of the speakers, forward and rear. It's fun to hear the difference in the imaging and surround effects with the placement changes. I'm in love with the 5803. My wife can see the gleam in my eye and I think it scares her. Must..resist.. . This post is long enough.
Enjoying my system, finally
Michael Moon