Evan S
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OK, I told you guys I would post my findings here on the HTF when I got a chance to audition the new Outlaw 950 vs. my present pre/pro...the Anthem AVM-20.
First off, I want to thank fellow HTF member Patrick Sklenar for his assistance in the demo. We had a great chat about gear and HT in general and it was an extremely enjoyable 4 hours.
For starters, here is my gear...
Anthem MCA-5II amp
Sony SCD-555ES SACD/CD player
Sony DVD-330 DVD player
Mirage BPS-100 subwoofer
Paradigm Reference 40's (front L/R), Reference 20's (surround) and Reference CC.
Anthem AVM-20 and Outlaw Audio 950 processors.
Material used for the test was Moulin Rouge on DTS for movies, Stevie Ray Vaughn "Couldn't Stand the Weather", Alison Krauss "Forget About it" and Dave Brubeck's "Time Out" for SACD as well as Craig David's "Born To Do It" on Redbook CD as well as a GRP jazz sampler "Happy Anniversary Charlie Brown". Patrick brought his own material and will have to chime in on what he brought. I'm pretty unfamiliar with most of his stuff I must say. I know we listened to a little bit of the Corrs "In Blue"
Gonna make this short and sweet. We spent about an hour with each unit...and the time in between was spent swapping cables and the like. I am not going to comment on multichannel DSP modes, or remote controls or asthetics or features. These have been beaten to death. I'm simply going to comment on bare bones sound...basically Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS for movies and pure stereo for CD's (using my CD player as a transport for both processors).
I'm going to get this right out of the way first. People were a little dubious when the Outlaw was compared to the Lexicon MC-12 and they wanted a more relative sample. Most specifically to the Rotel 1066 and the Anthem (the two units the closest in price and most talked about on this board). I must say that anyone getting the Outlaw 950 in the near future is in for one hell of a HT bargain. This baby is a great processor. Not a great processor for the money...simply a great processor. It sounds amazingly like my AVM-20. In fact, there is no way I could tell the difference if blindfolded between the two units. If there was any difference at all, I told Patrick I felt the Anthem had a slightly warmer presentation...a little more full bodied. Take these comments with a grain of salt as there was no double blind testing done here and it really could be my imagination playing tricks on me. My girlfriend came in at the end of the demo and said she felt the Anthem was slightly clearer and more detailed, but that was something I could not dissern. Females have better hearing than males, but if there was a difference, we are talking percentage points here folks. The Outlaw sounded great for both movies and music. Simple as that. It was easily the equal of my AVM-20 in music and movie soundtrack reproduction and is a great buy in HT gear. Everyone on this board has known for two months that I rave about my AVM-20 and love it beyond belief. For me to concede the Outlaw sounds very similar to the Anthem is something I never really doubted, but am still slightly surprised by (I know that's kind of an oxymoron).
So you are probably wondering after all that why I have decided to keep the Anthem, huh? Well, there are a number of reasons including balanced connections, easier multizone capability, time alignment for all speakers, adjustable crossover for SACD, better looks, increased bandwidth for Hi-def video switching, etc. I truly love my Anthem and after two months of having it cannot see myself with any other unit. With that being said, if the Outlaw had been released on schedule, I would have bought that unit and never looked back. It truly is that good, and I have no qualms saying as such.
I got plenty of generous offers to purchase my 950 after this demo and will be going down the line in order to see if those who had interest still do. If I had a second home, I would keep this baby in a New York Minute as the heart of a second system with pleasure.
Enjoy!!!
First off, I want to thank fellow HTF member Patrick Sklenar for his assistance in the demo. We had a great chat about gear and HT in general and it was an extremely enjoyable 4 hours.
For starters, here is my gear...
Anthem MCA-5II amp
Sony SCD-555ES SACD/CD player
Sony DVD-330 DVD player
Mirage BPS-100 subwoofer
Paradigm Reference 40's (front L/R), Reference 20's (surround) and Reference CC.
Anthem AVM-20 and Outlaw Audio 950 processors.
Material used for the test was Moulin Rouge on DTS for movies, Stevie Ray Vaughn "Couldn't Stand the Weather", Alison Krauss "Forget About it" and Dave Brubeck's "Time Out" for SACD as well as Craig David's "Born To Do It" on Redbook CD as well as a GRP jazz sampler "Happy Anniversary Charlie Brown". Patrick brought his own material and will have to chime in on what he brought. I'm pretty unfamiliar with most of his stuff I must say. I know we listened to a little bit of the Corrs "In Blue"
Gonna make this short and sweet. We spent about an hour with each unit...and the time in between was spent swapping cables and the like. I am not going to comment on multichannel DSP modes, or remote controls or asthetics or features. These have been beaten to death. I'm simply going to comment on bare bones sound...basically Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS for movies and pure stereo for CD's (using my CD player as a transport for both processors).
I'm going to get this right out of the way first. People were a little dubious when the Outlaw was compared to the Lexicon MC-12 and they wanted a more relative sample. Most specifically to the Rotel 1066 and the Anthem (the two units the closest in price and most talked about on this board). I must say that anyone getting the Outlaw 950 in the near future is in for one hell of a HT bargain. This baby is a great processor. Not a great processor for the money...simply a great processor. It sounds amazingly like my AVM-20. In fact, there is no way I could tell the difference if blindfolded between the two units. If there was any difference at all, I told Patrick I felt the Anthem had a slightly warmer presentation...a little more full bodied. Take these comments with a grain of salt as there was no double blind testing done here and it really could be my imagination playing tricks on me. My girlfriend came in at the end of the demo and said she felt the Anthem was slightly clearer and more detailed, but that was something I could not dissern. Females have better hearing than males, but if there was a difference, we are talking percentage points here folks. The Outlaw sounded great for both movies and music. Simple as that. It was easily the equal of my AVM-20 in music and movie soundtrack reproduction and is a great buy in HT gear. Everyone on this board has known for two months that I rave about my AVM-20 and love it beyond belief. For me to concede the Outlaw sounds very similar to the Anthem is something I never really doubted, but am still slightly surprised by (I know that's kind of an oxymoron).
So you are probably wondering after all that why I have decided to keep the Anthem, huh? Well, there are a number of reasons including balanced connections, easier multizone capability, time alignment for all speakers, adjustable crossover for SACD, better looks, increased bandwidth for Hi-def video switching, etc. I truly love my Anthem and after two months of having it cannot see myself with any other unit. With that being said, if the Outlaw had been released on schedule, I would have bought that unit and never looked back. It truly is that good, and I have no qualms saying as such.
I got plenty of generous offers to purchase my 950 after this demo and will be going down the line in order to see if those who had interest still do. If I had a second home, I would keep this baby in a New York Minute as the heart of a second system with pleasure.
Enjoy!!!