I can get either one of these for about the same price and I am not sure which one is better. If anyone has anything they can point out to me either major or minor differences that would be great. I am currently comparing the feature lists but it appears that the list on pioneers site is not nearly as long (maybe not as detailed?). I'm also considering B@W 300 series speakers. I origionally was thinking klipsch until I seen they were way out of my price range. I am hoping to get the reciever and speakers for a 7.1 system for ~$1400. I'm not sure of any other speakers I can get in my area that are of nice quality and in my price range. I'm also hoping that if I get everything in one place I can get a real good deal on it all. I know of one store I can get it all from. I have an old kenwood pro logic reciever and speakers I am hoping to sell to someone that isn't to particular about sound I'm hoping to get at least $300 for. I checked ebay and seen 1 complete aution for the reciever go for ~$100.