AMC A-List & other theater subscriptions (2 Viewers)

[Jason_V]

That which not dead can eternal lie....
https://www.theringer.com/movies/2019/2/6/18212482/moviepass-mitch-lowe-khalid-itum-interview-2019

They still don't get it. Their definition of "great" users is one sided; that's what makes a user "great" for MP...not the consumer who is getting the most bang for their buck. The folks sharing cards and whatnot...that's a problem, without a doubt. But using the benefits you paid for under the terms of the agreement? That's being smart.

Later on, the unlimited plan going away was to curb fraud, apparently. Okay, fine. But think about any given market. Are there enough movies for a person to see a new one every single day without repeating in any market outside of LA and NY in the country? I don't think so, but I could be wrong. By limiting a user to seeing a movie only one time, you are thereby limiting the benefit they can get from the service.

I'm happy with A List.

 

[Robert Crawford]

I only saw 6 movies with my 12/28-1/27 month of A-List. Please forgive me!

My first month ends on 2/9 and it will only be 6 movies for me too with an outside chance of one more for a total of 7 movies. Since, my local AMC theater is an older theater complex without any of the amenities of some of the newer theaters like recliner seats, Dolby Cinema or IMAX that's about all I expect to see each month. The next nearest AMC theater to me with those perks is located an hour away from me so I might be limited to one or two visits there each month. I'm going to try to schedule two movies each trip to that newer movie complex.

 

[Mike2001]

A side-effect of A-list for me - trailers that wear out their welcome and make me actively opposed to seeing the film advertised. Some current examples:

Breakthrough - a couple of minutes of shameless emotional manipulation.
Gloria Bell - Julianne Moore as cloying cough syrup.

I will go through life a happy man if I never see these trailers again, much less their movies.

 

[Colin Jacobson]

My first month ends on 2/9 and it will only be 6 movies for me too with an outside chance of one more for a total of 7 movies. Since, my local AMC theater is an older theater complex without any of the amenities of some of the newer theaters like recliner seats, Dolby Cinema or IMAX that's about all I expect to see each month. The next nearest AMC theater to me with those perks is located an hour away from me so I might be limited to one or two visits there each month. I'm going to try to schedule two movies each trip to that newer movie complex.

I have no excuse! AMC 3 miles from my house has Dolby Cinema AND IMAX!

I'm just a slacker!

 

[Robert Crawford]

I have no excuse! AMC 3 miles from my house has Dolby Cinema AND IMAX!

I'm just a slacker!

Colin,

Man, I wish I had such an AMC complex near me because I would see 10-12 movies each month.

 

[Malcolm R]

Colin,

Man, I wish I had such an AMC complex near me because I would see 10-12 movies each month.

Ditto. Haven't been close to an AMC since college, when I was there nearly every week.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Ditto. Haven't been close to an AMC since college, when I was there nearly every week.

Another factor is I'm a big guy with long legs and the AMC theater near me with their old seats with smaller space between rows reminds me of seating in Fenway Park or Tigers Stadium and enduring 3 hours of painful knee torture as I watch a ballgame.

 

[Colin Jacobson]

Colin,

Man, I wish I had such an AMC complex near me because I would see 10-12 movies each month.

Hey, some of us have jobs, y'know!

I do have an abundance of AMC goodness in my area. There's a nice "art house" AMC pretty close as well and another IMAX/Dolby AMC not too far away, too...

 

[Robert Crawford]

Hey, some of us have jobs, y'know!

I do have an abundance of AMC goodness in my area. There's a nice "art house" AMC pretty close as well and another IMAX/Dolby AMC not too far away, too...

I'm in no way criticizing you! I'm just lamenting my own situation in which I don't have a first class AMC that's within an hour of my home address.

 

[Sam Posten]

Lego2IMAX tonight. I'm getting about 3 Dolby/IMAX movies a month or more. Definitely getting good value from A-List.

 

[Colin Jacobson]

I'm in no way criticizing you! I'm just lamenting my own situation in which I don't have a first class AMC that's within an hour of my home address.

Look, you know I view EVERYTHING as implicit criticism and mockery!

 

[Colin Jacobson]

Lego2IMAX tonight. I'm getting about 3 Dolby/IMAX movies a month or more. Definitely getting good value from A-List.

I can't decide whether to go IMAX 2D for "L2" or standard 3D.

Leaning 3D. Dunno if it's IMAX 3D anywhere but it's not an option in my area...

 

[steve jaros]

They still don't get it. Their definition of "great" users is one sided; that's what makes a user "great" for MP...not the consumer who is getting the most bang for their buck. The folks sharing cards and whatnot...that's a problem, without a doubt. But using the benefits you paid for under the terms of the agreement? That's being smart.

Well, in fairness to MP, their definition of "great customer" must be one-sided, it's their definition after all. And from their POV, someone who pays them $10 (or whatever the fee was) but then has them buy $40 worth of tickets during that time is indeed a "bad" customer for them, as that customer cost them $30.

I mean, like you, I'm on A-List, and AMC has stated that their break-even point, factoring in concessions sales, for A-List is about 3 movies a month - if you go less than 3 times a month they make money off of you, if you go more, they lose money on you. Over six months, I've averaged 12 movies a month and I can tell you exactly how much I've saved at their expense. And i buy virtually no concessions either. So it wouldn't bother me at all if AMC regards me as a bad customer.

Won't stop me from seeing 12 more movies this month though, LOL. I only hope enough people do only go twice a month that they can afford to keep giving me such a great deal.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

I can't decide whether to go IMAX 2D for "L2" or standard 3D.

Leaning 3D. Dunno if it's IMAX 3D anywhere but it's not an option in my area...

IMAX 2D only in North America. Also leaning 3D but it’s not a high priority movie for me.

 

[Colin Jacobson]

IMAX 2D only in North America. Also leaning 3D but it’s not a high priority movie for me.

Thanks. I'll probably go 3D, if just to support the format!

 

[steve jaros]

I have the same decision to make - am seeing LEGO 2 on Wednesday in either 3D or IMAX, so if either of you see it in either format, please tell how you thought the format worked.

 

[Sam Posten]

It looked great in IMAX. I prefer the Dolby projection system but IMAX still holds up great.

 

[Chris Will]

Well, in fairness to MP, their definition of "great customer" must be one-sided, it's their definition after all. And from their POV, someone who pays them $10 (or whatever the fee was) but then has them buy $40 worth of tickets during that time is indeed a "bad" customer for them, as that customer cost them $30.

I mean, like you, I'm on A-List, and AMC has stated that their break-even point, factoring in concessions sales, for A-List is about 3 movies a month - if you go less than 3 times a month they make money off of you, if you go more, they lose money on you. Over six months, I've averaged 12 movies a month and I can tell you exactly how much I've saved at their expense. And i buy virtually no concessions either. So it wouldn't bother me at all if AMC regards me as a bad customer.

Won't stop me from seeing 12 more movies this month though, LOL. I only hope enough people do only go twice a month that they can afford to keep giving me such a great deal.

I don’t see how that 3 movies a month figure is accurate. Before A-list, I doubt there were many AMC customers seeing 12 movies a month. Shoot, I was only seeing about 6 a year and rarely buying concessions. Now I go about 6-10 a month and probably buy at least an Icee 90% of the time, sometimes I get more concessions.

We know theaters don’t make much from ticket sales early in a movie’s run and I see most within the first 2 weeks. So, AMC went from see me about 6 times a year (less because I would go to the non AMC theater mostly) to getting $20 a month and at least an Icee sale on most trips. They are getting a whole lot more money from me then they ever have.

It’s their program and if they say it’s not profitable if I see more than 3 a month then, I don’t see how they will ever make a profit from me.

 

[Jake Lipson]

Iit’s not a high priority movie for me.

Based on your post about it in the 2019 box office thread, I can tell you that I liked both the original Lego Movie and The Lego Batman Movie significantly more than you did. And I really didn't like this one. It's a perfectly watchable, average animated movie to take kids to as a distraction, and it looks nice, but it's really not very good. I know with A-List you won't really lose anything on it if you go, but based on what you've said about the last one, I think you could pass on this one without missing anything that would be tremendously worthwhile to you.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

Thanks, that confirms what I was thinking. This one’s up to my wife; if she wants to see it, I’m happy to be her date for the evening but won’t bother seeing it on my own.