Goldsmith - GLADIATOR rejected score?

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  1. Patrick Mirza

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    Did Jerry Goldsmith write an initial rejected score to Gladiator?
    There's someone on Morpheus who thinks so...
    Am I missing something?
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    I don't believe so, Patrick. I could be wrong, though. It would have been better if Goldsmith did the score. I loathe Hans Zimmer's over-the-top style.
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    No, well, yes... just not for Ridley Scott's movie. It was rejected for the 1992 Cuba Gooding Jr. boxing drama, also titled Gladiator.
    I agree with, Tom, though. Wish he bloody well had scored Scott's movie.
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    I agree and disagree with the opinions stated on Zimmer's score.
    1) I agree that his scores usually tend to go over the top, and therefore are better suited to relatively brainless but entertaining BIG action films (so that you can hear the music over the explosions [​IMG] )
    2) I also find the Gladiator score to be my favorite Zimmer score. I think it's because of his partnership with Lisa Gerrard. Getting someone else in there to add a new sound to the increasingly cliche Zimmer riffs was really nice. I think Gerrard's and Zimmer's styles mixed really well to create a very nice album.
     
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    I thought Zimmer's Gladiator score was absolutely incredible. Great stuff indeed. Never cared for Goldsmith. I love John Williams. I also thought Zimmer's The Rock score and the Pearl Harbor score were very good as well. I didn't care for the Armageddon score. I think he did that one too. He does most of Bays' movies.
     
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    I think Hanz Zimmer's GLADIATOR score is outstanding. One of the best scores of the last 10 years.
    With LEGEND, it was the studio that replaced the score. Not Scott, who objected. Goldsmith's score will be restored into the Ridley Scott director's cut. [​IMG]
    But it isn't all that great. It's a good score, but not comparible to his best work.
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    Yeah, this Morpheus guy's thinking of that terrible 1992 boxing movie GLADIATOR (directed by the guy who did Patrick Swayze's magnum opus ROAD HOUSE).
    There's an excellent bootleg CD of Goldsmith's rejected score available (paired with his score for HOOSIERS). It's pretty good and much better than what actually ended up in the film (by Brad Fiedel).
     
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    Wasn't there a Goldsmith score for 2001 that was thrown out as well? I heard that Kubrick used the classical pieces for the temp score and liked them so much he kept them in.
    As a side note: I recently got a copy of the rejected Ennio Morricone score for "What Dreams May Come" and it is fantastic.
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    quote: That was Alex North.[/quote]
    My bad. You are correct sir.
    Goldsmith 'did' have rejected scores for Alien Nation (which parts of turned up in The Russia House of all places.) and 2 Days in the Valley.
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    the tangerine score was alot better anyway for that movie.
     

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