What's new

explain to me about multiple subwoofers (1 Viewer)

felix_suwarno

Screenwriter
Joined
Dec 2, 2001
Messages
1,523
explain me :

what is the advantage?

how many is enough?

room size versus number of subwoofers?

placement?

the no-no list / what not to do? ( i heard about cancelling phenomena from 2 different sizes sub placed on different locations )

thanks in advance
 

Cees Alons

Senior HTF Member
Joined
Jul 31, 1997
Messages
19,789
Real Name
Cees Alons
You can have more than one sub just to get more power (louder sound), but in most rooms and with most subwoofers, that's certainly not necessary. If you want to do it: what's not done (very stupid) is to have them out of fase. This means they are effectively canseling each other.

What is useful, is having more than two subs for another reason: one sub for the subwoofer (effects-) channel, and one or more to make some other channels (often the L & R or the Center) "full range". Some people prefer the L and R main channels to be full range, because they consider the soundstage better suited for audio listening that way.

If you do not have that, you generally choose to set your fronts to "small" (as compared to "large") on your DTS- or DD-processor and the processor will then send the lowest frequencies of those channels to the LFE-channel (hence your sub, if you have one).

This isn't bad, because it's impossible (or almost impossible) to locate te spatial source of a bass sound in a room < 10' x 10', or so.

Again: not to be hooked up or switched in the wrong phase!

Cees
 

steve nn

Senior HTF Member
Joined
Jan 12, 2002
Messages
2,418
Two subs work great for me.Front speakers set to small.Gives me a much rounder sound and adds more sonic feel and has more base than I can handle on 6 channel DVD.Where to place them is a matter I think only you can decide what sounds best.It will give you much more leeway. steve nn
 

BruceD

Screenwriter
Joined
Apr 12, 1999
Messages
1,220
This is a very difficult question to answer with any kind of quick answer, I will attempt to give a little background.
If you are looking for a balanced bass response, the answer below is not likely to give you that result.
quote:
-----------------------------------------------------------
Gives me a much rounder sound and adds more sonic feel and has more base than I can handle on 6 channel DVD.Where to place them is a matter I think only you can decide what sounds best.It will give you much more leeway. steve nn
-----------------------------------------------------------
In the above example you will probably get more bass, but not necessarily well balanced bass throughout the 20Hz-200Hz range. Your preferences in HT are what matters so listen to whatever pleases you for sure.
The phase switch (most subs have one) tries to match the in/out movement of the speaker cone of the sub with that of the main speakers or another sub. Distance from one speaker or sub to another may change phase. Example: putting a sub in the rear of the listening room may require the phase switch to be adjusted. The position of the phase switch that gives the most bass is the correct setting.
How to get balanced bass in your HT room
Controlling specific bass frequency peaks and valleys (every HT room has them) is critical to getting smooth and deep bass response. The peaks and valleys can be controlled, but typically not by adding more subs.
Measuring the actual bass frequency response of a sub in multiple positions to find the best position (with the smallest variation of SPL output from 20Hz-200Hz), will help optimize the bass response for that room and sub combination. Two subs adds some complexity to this task.
After that, we usually add a Parametric Equalizer just in front of the sub to reduce any specific frequency peaks we couldn't get rid of by just sub positioning.
This measurement for best position can be done quite simply with a RS SPL meter, a test CD like the Stryke disk and writing the SPL response of each frequency produced by the sub on paper or an Excel spreadsheet and then graphing. Use a logarithmic "X" axis on the Excel graph.
All SPL meter readings should be taken at your listening position.
 

felix_suwarno

Screenwriter
Joined
Dec 2, 2001
Messages
1,523
is it worth the trouble to have multiple sub? personally when i have more money i prefer to just buy the hyped svs ultra with the samson amp. one should be enough for a 5 times 4 meter room. or not enough?

i am confused.
 

Users who are viewing this thread

Sign up for our newsletter

and receive essential news, curated deals, and much more







You will only receive emails from us. We will never sell or distribute your email address to third party companies at any time.

Forum statistics

Threads
357,061
Messages
5,129,870
Members
144,281
Latest member
papill6n
Recent bookmarks
0
Top