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DVD Recorder Purchase Help (DVD-RAM Compatible)

Discussion in 'Playback Devices' started by MarkHastings, Mar 15, 2003.

  1. MarkHastings

    MarkHastings Executive Producer

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    Since there really isn't a big choice when you limit them down to DVD-RAM capable, I've narrowed it down to this one...
    Panasonic DMR-E30S which was a "Featured Item" on CC's web site and seems somewhat reasonable.

    Does anyone have any other suggestions for a progressive scan DVD Recorder that supports DVD-RAM? What should I be looking for in a good recorder? i.e. Record Speed? Quality (is this a big issue?), etc.


    p.s. There is also another Panasonic that's twice as much: Panasonic DMR-HS2.
     
  2. Ernest

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    The Panasonic recorders are excellent because they feature:

    1.) "Flexible Recording" that records movies over two hours long at the highest bit rate.

    2.) Progressive scan using the Farjouda DCDi chip set.

    3.) Records to DVD-R which when finalized is most compatiable with DVD players.

    4. Records to RAM which can be erased and re-recorded 1000's of times and provies editing features, such as deleting commercials.

    The EM30 is being replaced by the EM50. So check around you maybe able to find some very goods buys on a close-out. The HD2 is the same as the EM30 with a hard drive. If you think you will get good use from recording to the drive and then re-recording to a DVD-R then the HD2 is right for you. The HD2 is not being replaced at this time so expect to pay at least $200.00 more. Good luck.
     
  3. MarkHastings

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    Ernest,

    Thanks for the info. I should have also written that my main reason for wanting a recorder with DVD-RAM capabilities is because I have a DVD-RAM burner on my computer and I want to test out my DVD burns before I waste anymore money on incorrect DVD-R burns...i.e. I've been having interlacing issues with my burns and they obviously don't show up on the computer, but since they do appear on my tv (and my player isn't compatible with the DVD-RAM discs), I end up wasting tons of cash in testing on DVD-R.

    In my research, it seems like the recording units are the only ones that support DVD-RAM playback. Is this true? or are there non-recorders that will play RAM's? This would obviously be cheaper...

    Although I guess I wouldn't mind having a DVD recorder, so maybe I will look into the EM50.
     
  4. Michael St. Clair

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    I had an E30 on loaner for a while. Picture quality is excellent with both media; but there is a black level bug when recording on DVD-R that lightens up the picture. DVD-RAM mode, no such problem.

    The next generation is supposed to fix this.
     
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  6. MarkHastings

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    Ka,

    Yeah, I just checked out a lot of manufacturers web sites last night and Panasonic seems to have a lot of DVD-RAM compatibility...and as you stated, Panasonic seems to be the only company that has non-recorders that handle DVD-RAM.

    I was interested in the RP91, but it's been around for a few years and considering the recorders are going for the same price, maybe I'll pass. Does anyone know of a possible update to this model?

    I was also looking at the XP30 & XP50. CNET gave them both good ratings CNET rating , but the bad is "Overly bright display; no aspect-ratio control; poor anamorphic conversion". Since I have a 16x9 tv, I guess I don't need to worry about anamorphic conversions or Aspect ratio control.

    The EM60 recorder isn't on Panasonics site yet, but CNET talks about it and they say they'll have a full review in a few weeks. I think I may know where my tax refund is going. [​IMG]

    Hmmmm? What to do? What to do?
     
  7. Bill Will

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    I see J&R has the E30S "Silver" for $399.88 & the E30K "BLACK" for $449.88 Myself I rather have the black model but not for $50.00 more [​IMG]
     
  8. MarkHastings

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  9. Bill Will

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    I guess so? & Lemon paint must be the cheapest right [​IMG]
     
  10. Ernest

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    I also own two Panasonic RP82 players that play RAM discs. I have recorded 119 movies from VHS, SVHS, Laserdisc and DirecTV to DVD-R without any washout problems. The DVD-R's finalized to DVD-Video play back with excellent black color.

    Last night I recorded part one of "Children Of Dune" and today I am recording part 2 on DVD-RAM's. I used the segment feature of the recorder to delete the commercials from part 1. When I finish recording part 3 tomorrow night I will convert the RAM recordings to DVD-R. The video recorded excellent, very dark, and the audio was digital pro logic.

    I am very happy with the Panasonic EM30 recorder /player and have not experienced the so called washed-out problem in al my recordings.
     
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  12. MarkHastings

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    I think I'm narrowing down my decision to the E60 over the E50 for the DVD-A capability.

    CNET states:
     
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    I should note that the Panny isn't the only great recorder out their, I own the Philips DVDR-985 and it can do just about everything the Panny can, and also features the Faroudia Progressive package.

    Just another option for you.
     
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    You might be interested to know that Microsoft just became the ninth company to offically join the DVD+RW alliance.

    The plus+ format is just as compatible with players made since 2000 as the minus format; though some just will not admit that. Plus, the eraseable DVD+RWs will also play on regular players, unlike DVD-RAM. In my area, +plus format media is the same price as the others. Finally, no "washout" effect, which on DVD-R, is very real.

    I've got both a Panasonic and a Philips recorder. Both are good machines, but the Philips is definitely a step up. Especially since the erasable discs can be played in my other machines.

    I've got two Sony DVD players (one from 2000 and the other 2002) and they both play DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, and DVD+RW with no hickups whatsoever, outside of the washout on DVD-R.
     
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    AFAIK, the Philips recorder doesn't have FR (or equivalent) bitrate selection.
     
  17. MarkHastings

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  18. David Susilo

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    Don't forget that DVD-R media can be bought for a mere 69 cents each whereas the same quality DVD+R is $1. If you use as many recordable media like I do, that 40c difference means US$80 difference each month.
     
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  20. Inspector Hammer!

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    Micheal,

    i've played several +R's and +RW's on a few different players and have never had a problem yet, so I don't see where this assesment comes from.
     

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