Crimson Rivers - No subs on French commentary track?

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  1. Mike Fetterly

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    A friend of mine picked this up, and while the transfer is beautiful and it has a lot more extras than you'd expect, he had one complaint: The French commentary track had no subtitles! I did a search and no one seems to be talking about this.
    Could he have a defective copy? It seems strange that Columbia would do this, Anatomy had a German commentary and they subtitled that...
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  2. Matt DeVillier

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    Sadly the commentary is not subtitled (or my copy is defective too, but I doubt it). At least the French audio track is DD5.1 and not DD2.0 as originally announced [​IMG]
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  3. Sam Davatchi

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    Why do you need subtitles? [​IMG]
     
  4. Mark McLeod

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    Well if you can't speak or understand French then it makes it hard to understand the commentary. By not having subtitles on the commentary it limits the number of people who can enjoy it. After all I for one wouldn't listen to some guy commenting on his film for 2 hrs if I didn't understand the language he was speaking. Atleast with subtitles you can read what he is saying.
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    I guess if you want to listen to the commentary, you're going to need to learn French, eh? [​IMG]
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    Do they usually include French subtitles for English commentaries?
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    It's a no-brainer: if there's a French language commentary track on an AMERICAN DVD release, it should definitely have subs.
    [Edited last by Jussi Tarvainen on October 21, 2001 at 07:36 AM]
     
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    Yeah it's kind of surprising that shortly after the release of Crimson Rivers, Columbia Tristar's Final Fantasy has a Japanese audio commentary that DOES have subtitles.
    The French release of Crimson sounds awesome. I assume that it's R2.
    Craig, care to have a look at this link and compare the specs to your French version? I'm really curious to know what else is different.
    Maybe someone from France would chime in too. Was this movie absolutely huge? I loved it, just wondered how French audiences reacted.
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    quote: I loved it, just wondered how French audiences reacted.[/quote]
    Lukewarm. I don't know what is on the R1 DVD but on the R2 DVD there is a documentary where the cast and crew and the director himself confess for the multiple flaws of the movie and practically apologize! It's unlike anything you have seen before. It's very courageous and honest to mention the flaws that many time on a DVD that is supposed to promote the movie! This is what Lucas should have done on the TPM DVD, a one hour apology documentary! [​IMG]
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    I've got to imagine that there's an error of some kind with the commentary track. I can't imagine that French-only audio was purposely included without translation, although it is possible they figured this could be more widely used in Canada.
    I speak enough French that I considered the R2 version, but since there are no English subtitles on it at all, I passed.
     
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    I'm glad to hear that the R1 release has a french 5.1 track. Hopefully the sub-title situation will be sorted out though.
    Has anyone heard anything from Columbia on this?
     
  15. Louis-Olivier

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    "It's a no-brainer: if there's a French language commentary track on an AMERICAN DVD release, it should definitely have subs."
    actually it's not an AMERICAN DVD it's a R1 DVD. It means it's for canada too. And if i follow your logic, all commentary tracks in english should have french subs also, because there's 7 millions of French Canadians, and a good part of them don't speak english....
     
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    And don't forget that French Canadians were there before americans, and that canada (and quite possibly USA)would be entirely french if England didn't take the territory by force, killing innoncent people who just wanted to colonize a new world and live in peace.
     

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